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Old 08-22-2002, 05:43 AM   #1
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how many clicks are possible from one IP?

Let me rephrase that:

How many legitimate clicks do you think are possible from one surfer (one IP)? Also, how long does a surfer stay on your site?

I have been recording all the click-thrus produced on my site from each IP and I have some pretty high numbers, some are over 100. Also, I have records of a surfer producing clicks one hour after his first click.

I have to block hit bots from going wild on my sites, but I'm not sure at what point is fair. From what I can see, about 40% of surfers click nothing (probably thanks to all the blind links to me), about 30% click once (then get pissed off that it was a blind link and leave), and about 10% click twice. That's about 80% of all traffic. I know I should probably cut off the ones clicking 100 times off my site, but at what point do I start cutting the clicks off? 50? 20? 10? 5?
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Old 08-22-2002, 05:51 AM   #2
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HQ, you should hit me on icq about this.
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Old 08-22-2002, 06:17 AM   #3
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Will do.
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Old 08-22-2002, 07:10 AM   #4
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HQ, you should hit me on icq about this.
Dont contact him HQ..
Its a straightforward answer -
maxumum legitimate clicks? - 12 clicks

Now seriously -Just so you will know - assuming all clicks are legitimate - they most probably come from what is called a proxy (/proxy server).
In short: Proxy is a internet mechanism that concentrates requests from people on different IPs and contacts sites they want to for them - so instead of seeing the real people IPs you see the IP address of the proxy.
This may be done for many reasons: Privacy, security, caching etc...
Another reason is - cheating
What cheaters do - is use a proxy to hide their IP (so you cant track them). In a more technically advanced way - it also enables them to spoof their IP so not even the proxy can detect them...
Their (the cheaters) assumption is - that you wont block the proxy IP because you dont want to loose possible legitimate users...

In reality - fuck assumptions.. Block the motherfucker. (atleast for a while)
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Old 08-22-2002, 07:39 AM   #5
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Dont contact him HQ..
Its a straightforward answer -
maxumum legitimate clicks? - 12 clicks

Now seriously -Just so you will know - assuming all clicks are legitimate - they most probably come from what is called a proxy (/proxy server).
In short: Proxy is a internet mechanism that concentrates requests from people on different IPs and contacts sites they want to for them - so instead of seeing the real people IPs you see the IP address of the proxy.
This may be done for many reasons: Privacy, security, caching etc...
Another reason is - cheating
What cheaters do - is use a proxy to hide their IP (so you cant track them). In a more technically advanced way - it also enables them to spoof their IP so not even the proxy can detect them...
Their (the cheaters) assumption is - that you wont block the proxy IP because you dont want to loose possible legitimate users...

In reality - fuck assumptions.. Block the motherfucker. (atleast for a while)
dude, no offence but we were having a college level traffic discussion on icq while you gave this 3rd grade traffic summary.
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Old 08-22-2002, 08:16 AM   #6
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I really think its hard to tell, i have some '100+ click surfers' with traffic i bought from Choker ... And i DONT think choker is selling hitbot traffic ...
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Old 08-22-2002, 08:27 AM   #7
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Dont contact him HQ..
Its a straightforward answer -
maxumum legitimate clicks? - 12 clicks

Now seriously -Just so you will know - assuming all clicks are legitimate - they most probably come from what is called a proxy (/proxy server).
In short: Proxy is a internet mechanism that concentrates requests from people on different IPs and contacts sites they want to for them - so instead of seeing the real people IPs you see the IP address of the proxy.
This may be done for many reasons: Privacy, security, caching etc...
Another reason is - cheating
What cheaters do - is use a proxy to hide their IP (so you cant track them). In a more technically advanced way - it also enables them to spoof their IP so not even the proxy can detect them...
Their (the cheaters) assumption is - that you wont block the proxy IP because you dont want to loose possible legitimate users...

In reality - fuck assumptions.. Block the motherfucker. (atleast for a while)
3rd grade indeed. EVERYONE knows what a proxy server is and can do....jeesh
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Old 08-22-2002, 08:46 AM   #8
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I really think its hard to tell, i have some '100+ click surfers' with traffic i bought from Choker ... And i DONT think choker is selling hitbot traffic ...
Did Choker make a special deal with the Russians?

Paying protection fee?

Virtually everything above 15 should be considered "highly suspicious" 100+ simple aint possible.
Are you sure it's coming from Choker?

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Old 08-22-2002, 11:07 AM   #9
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dude, no offence but we were having a college level traffic discussion on icq while you gave this 3rd grade traffic summary.
How true. Thanks for your input!
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Old 08-22-2002, 11:10 AM   #10
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Did Choker make a special deal with the Russians?

Paying protection fee?

Virtually everything above 15 should be considered "highly suspicious" 100+ simple aint possible.
Are you sure it's coming from Choker?
The traffic was to www.babesfromholland.com . No trades no CJ only links to galleries.

Maybe it took them a while to cum ...


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Old 08-22-2002, 01:37 PM   #11
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And i DONT think choker is selling hitbot traffic ...
he very well could be selling hitbot traffic considering the fact that he buys traffic from some people and sends it right to other sites.
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Old 08-22-2002, 01:40 PM   #12
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Doesnt he filter his traffic .. i guess so .. If not his hitbots are horny mothersuckers because they generate signups ...
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Old 08-22-2002, 03:10 PM   #13
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All Chokers hitbots are horny motherfuckers, they seem to join everything hahahaha
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Old 08-22-2002, 04:36 PM   #14
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Who is Choker and how can I contact him?
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Old 08-22-2002, 07:28 PM   #15
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he very well could be selling hitbot traffic considering the fact that he buys traffic from some people and sends it right to other sites.
Don't say things you have no idea about, This is not true at all.

Did you bother to check if any of these ips are AOL or any other big ISP proxies? duhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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All Chokers hitbots are horny motherfuckers, they seem to join everything hahahaha
Thank you. Yep, I got 21 signups myself from my own traffic today. Must be supersmart bots if they have thier own credit cards.
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Old 08-22-2002, 07:32 PM   #16
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why dont you track back the ips? they are aol proxies most of the time
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Old 08-22-2002, 07:33 PM   #17
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anytime pete. just not on chatboards. you don't want to give thieves ANY clue as to how I keep beating them.
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Old 08-23-2002, 05:37 AM   #18
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anytime pete. just not on chatboards. you don't want to give thieves ANY clue as to how I keep beating them.
Exactly. Hit me on ICQ again! I have more info.
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