UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel - GoFuckYourself.com

u-Bob · 05-15-2007, 11:04 AM

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...A smoking ban for drivers is to be considered by the Department of Health
in a bid to cut the number of deaths from crashes.

Road safety officers from councils around the country are to meet transport
officials to discuss a ban on smoking while at the wheel. A similar ban on
using a mobile phone while driving is already in place....

source: http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/tra...cle2536880.ece

Spudman · 05-15-2007, 11:21 AM

yeah i saw this,

i dont smoke so don't personally have a problem with it but i do think its getting way out of hand introducing laws like this. it's taking away peoples freedom.

Simon IA Cash · 05-15-2007, 12:00 PM

Technically, by your definition, not allowing people to drink and drive is also taking away people's freedom.

Sly · 05-15-2007, 12:03 PM

Music is also a huge distraction. I hope they ban radios.

Also, eating and drinking while driving. Not alcohol, drinking anything. Both distractions.

Kids are a magnificent distraction while driving. Ban kids.

nico-t · 05-15-2007, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Simon IA Cash

Technically, by your definition, not allowing people to drink and drive is also taking away people's freedom.

^^^^^this argument makes absolutely no sense

Sly · 05-15-2007, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Simon IA Cash

Technically, by your definition, not allowing people to drink and drive is also taking away people's freedom.

That is one of the worst comparisons I've seen. Can you stretch it anymore?

Simon IA Cash · 05-15-2007, 12:07 PM

It's an instance of telling someone they're not allowed to do something while they drive because of the safety risks involved. If that's taking away someone's freedom, then so is telling them not to drink and drive. So instead of being fine with both, I'm fine getting rid of both. I'm sick of being cut off by dumb assholes smoking while talking on a cell phone and driving like shit.

notabook · 05-15-2007, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Kids are a magnificent distraction while driving. Ban kids.

AMEN! Kids are the #1 distraction in cars. Make it so you have a sound proof compartment for them and throw their asses in there or ban them from the car period. I like the UK's thought process when it comes to this!

Another big distraction is listening to music. Ban the radio/cd players/ipods from the car period, listening to music will reduce your ability to focus on the road, so you have to ban them.

The color of cars can also be distracting, reds especially. The color red can also make you feel angrier, thus increasing road rage. They need to make a law ASAP to make every color of car gray to prevent this.

KILL_FRENZY · 05-15-2007, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Kids are a magnificent distraction while driving. Ban kids.

why not ?

Simon IA Cash · 05-15-2007, 12:11 PM

It's kind of different when there's something actually in your hand, and you're supposed to be using your hands to drive.

tranza · 05-15-2007, 12:13 PM

It distracts the driver. I support the idea...

Sly · 05-15-2007, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Simon IA Cash

It's kind of different when there's something actually in your hand, and you're supposed to be using your hands to drive.

I don't know anyone that drives with 2 hands. Smoke or not.

Kids screaming, loud music, fumbling over fast food... far more distracting then puffing a cigarette that comes quite natural for a smoker.

notabook · 05-15-2007, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Simon IA Cash

It's kind of different when there's something actually in your hand, and you're supposed to be using your hands to drive.

We can't stop there though. Anything that takes away from your driving ability must be eliminated. No music period, no vibrant colors on cars, no loud distractions from children.

We must ban all music from cars, all cell phones, all kids, no eating in the car, no drinking in the car, and definitely make sure to ban every color but gray on cars.

The Ghost · 05-15-2007, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Music is also a huge distraction. I hope they ban radios.

Also, eating and drinking while driving. Not alcohol, drinking anything. Both distractions.

Kids are a magnificent distraction while driving. Ban kids.

Touche.

Also, living leads to eventual death, so we should ban that too.

Simon IA Cash · 05-15-2007, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

I don't know anyone that drives with 2 hands. Smoke or not.

A lot of people turn with two hands, though, and in the event of a dangerous situation, you'd probably use two hands, too. Also, if you drive standard, that could mean one hand on the wheel, holding a cigarette. You can't tell me that's just as safe.

commonsense · 05-15-2007, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Simon IA Cash

A lot of people turn with two hands, though, and in the event of a dangerous situation, you'd probably use two hands, too. Also, if you drive standard, that could mean one hand on the wheel, holding a cigarette. You can't tell me that's just as safe.

Just because something CAN happen does not mean it WILL. Most things that are regulated should not be. It is just a way for another business or person to profit. Nothing to do with protection of people.

Do you think the government (any government) REALLY cares about your safety?

Simon IA Cash · 05-15-2007, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by commonsense

Do you think the government (any government) REALLY cares about your safety?

As far as my survival keeps me paying taxes, sure :D

Simon IA Cash · 05-15-2007, 12:55 PM

Plus, who profits from the ban?

commonsense · 05-15-2007, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Simon IA Cash

As far as my survival keeps me paying taxes, sure :D

Yes, and their goal is to get you to pay MORE taxes.

To own you.

Do you think enforcing these new regulations is free?

commonsense · 05-15-2007, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Simon IA Cash

Plus, who profits from the ban?

Now THAT is a good question.

jonesonyou · 05-15-2007, 01:02 PM

good....no phones eithor....or radios....and to talking to other passenger

who · 05-15-2007, 01:02 PM

It's a fairly obscene idea.

Simon IA Cash · 05-15-2007, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by commonsense

Yes, and their goal is to get you to pay MORE taxes.

To own you.

Do you think enforcing these new regulations is free?

Ok, but if they spend it on enforcing the regulations, it doesn't go into their pockets, that doesn't benefit them. Their goal isn't to just tax as much as possible in the hopes that their citizens have less, that's dumb to say.

How can you guys compare driving with something in your hand, to talking to people while you drive?

commonsense · 05-15-2007, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Simon IA Cash

Ok, but if they spend it on enforcing the regulations, it doesn't go into their pockets, that doesn't benefit them. Their goal isn't to just tax as much as possible in the hopes that their citizens have less, that's dumb to say.

How can you guys compare driving with something in your hand, to talking to people while you drive?

You continue to miss the GOD DAMN point. It is a STUPID FUCKING THING to regulate. It's like regulating the color of pant on the wall or how hard rain can fall. How about regulating how loud someone can fart, or better yet, how bad it can smell?

It's fucking STUPID.

If you don't understand there are ulterior motives brought on to benefit others, there's not much more to explain to you. You don?t need to know WHO. I'm sure you believe that everything the Government does is right. ALWAYS REMEMBER the government is made up by PEOPLE. They are not magically made into superior beings or geniuses because they work in the government.

If you agree with this type of regulations, I can only hope you are under the legal voting age where ever you live.

-commonsense

Simon IA Cash · 05-15-2007, 01:36 PM

How can you compare the color of pants and regulating farts to stopping people holding shit while they drive? Maybe YOU are MISSING the GOD damn POINT.

You can't say a single thing without exaggerating. Of course the government's not always right, but you have yet to tell me one person who benefits financially from this regulation, and saying "OMG ITS THE GOVERNMENT SO THEY'RE CONTROLLING YOU AND TAKING YOUR MONEY SOMEHOW I DON'T NEED TO HAVE ANY IDEA WHO OR HOW IN THIS CASE BUT THEY JUST DO AND IF YOU AREN'T WILLING TO ACCEPT THAT YOU MUST THINK THEY'RE PERFECT" is pointless.

commonsense · 05-18-2007, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Simon IA Cash

How can you compare the color of pants and regulating farts to stopping people holding shit while they drive? Maybe YOU are MISSING the GOD damn POINT.

You can't say a single thing without exaggerating. Of course the government's not always right, but you have yet to tell me one person who benefits financially from this regulation, and saying "OMG ITS THE GOVERNMENT SO THEY'RE CONTROLLING YOU AND TAKING YOUR MONEY SOMEHOW I DON'T NEED TO HAVE ANY IDEA WHO OR HOW IN THIS CASE BUT THEY JUST DO AND IF YOU AREN'T WILLING TO ACCEPT THAT YOU MUST THINK THEY'RE PERFECT" is pointless.

Do you think that individual freedoms are eliminated all at once? No, they are taken a little bit at a time because JACKASSES like you say "Oh, since I don't ______ , sure, let's get rid of it." You miss out on the basic points of logic and common sense. Now knowing your intellect, there is NO WAY a single hit will EVER be sent to your program.

You are a FUCKING TOOL missing out on the larger impact. The world is full of idiots, and you are one of them. You add to the problem, not the solution.

In case you missed it,

YOU ARE A FUCKING TOOL.

Malicious Biz · 05-18-2007, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by notabook

AMEN! Kids are the #1 distraction in cars. Make it so you have a sound proof compartment for them and throw their asses in there or ban them from the car period. I like the UK's thought process when it comes to this!

Another big distraction is listening to music. Ban the radio/cd players/ipods from the car period, listening to music will reduce your ability to focus on the road, so you have to ban them.

The color of cars can also be distracting, reds especially. The color red can also make you feel angrier, thus increasing road rage. They need to make a law ASAP to make every color of car gray to prevent this.

I agree with all of the above and would like to add that I've found myself being distracted by hot women drivers. they should ban women from the roads as well.

Webby · 05-18-2007, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

I agree with all of the above and would like to add that I've found myself being distracted by hot women drivers. they should ban women from the roads as well.

Totally agree

And ban cars as well - they are far too dangerous to be on the road

BusterBunny · 05-18-2007, 01:26 AM

hopefully this only applies to ciggarette's cause i still wanna hit my bong at 120kph

sandman! · 05-18-2007, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Simon IA Cash

How can you compare the color of pants and regulating farts to stopping people holding shit while they drive? Maybe YOU are MISSING the GOD damn POINT.

You can't say a single thing without exaggerating. Of course the government's not always right, but you have yet to tell me one person who benefits financially from this regulation, and saying "OMG ITS THE GOVERNMENT SO THEY'RE CONTROLLING YOU AND TAKING YOUR MONEY SOMEHOW I DON'T NEED TO HAVE ANY IDEA WHO OR HOW IN THIS CASE BUT THEY JUST DO AND IF YOU AREN'T WILLING TO ACCEPT THAT YOU MUST THINK THEY'RE PERFECT" is pointless.

fuck you and the bullshit program you work for if i have any links up to your program trust me they will be gone tomorow.

polish_aristocrat · 05-18-2007, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by sandman!

fuck you and the bullshit program you work for if i have any links up to your program trust me they will be gone tomorow.

you don't know which programs do you promote?

nico-t · 05-18-2007, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Simon IA Cash

Plus, who profits from the ban?

LOL are you serious? The money hungry government ofcourse. Can you say 'ticket'? Like someone here said already, the government doesn't give one flying fuck about the safety of anyone.

headless ghost · 05-18-2007, 04:25 AM

they don't need cars in england anyway, its nothing but a little dinky ass island anyway.
let the fuckers walk!

GregE · 05-18-2007, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Music is also a huge distraction. I hope they ban radios.

Also, eating and drinking while driving. Not alcohol, drinking anything. Both distractions.

Kids are a magnificent distraction while driving. Ban kids.

Actually thinking about anything other than the road while driving is a major distraction. Hey there's no getting around it......they need to lobotomize all UK drivers

GregE · 05-18-2007, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Simon IA Cash

A lot of people turn with two hands, though, and in the event of a dangerous situation, you'd probably use two hands, too. Also, if you drive standard, that could mean one hand on the wheel, holding a cigarette. You can't tell me that's just as safe.

This might come as a revelation to you but when a smoker needs to use both hands at the same time he or she will often leave the cigarette in his or her mouth for short periods of time. I kid you not. I've actually seen it done with my own eyes.

MrChips · 05-18-2007, 06:18 AM

No fucker will bother anyway - its like the mobile phone laws - I see fuckers driving with them in their hands and talking all the time. Many people just couldnt give a flying fuck about it.

darksoul · 05-18-2007, 06:26 AM

this anti smoking crusade its going out of hand.
fuck the government

mattz · 05-18-2007, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MrChips

No fucker will bother anyway - its like the mobile phone laws - I see fuckers driving with them in their hands and talking all the time. Many people just couldnt give a flying fuck about it.

I believe the mobile phone law only applies if you cause an accident or get pulled over. They can't just pull you over for being on the phone

MrChips · 05-18-2007, 07:10 AM

Mattz - they can - and its an on the spot fine plus points on your licence - a copper told me.

camuk19 · 05-18-2007, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MrChips

Mattz - they can - and its an on the spot fine plus points on your licence - a copper told me.

True.

My mate was pulled over the other day while trying to text, the ass.

Yo Adrian · 05-18-2007, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Simon IA Cash

Technically, by your definition, not allowing people to drink and drive is also taking away people's freedom.

I know but the gov't has the right to take away people for being Ass#@^%s?

wizhard · 05-18-2007, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob

source: http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/tra...cle2536880.ece

I seem to remmember that some idiot MP tried to bring in similar legislation about this 20'ish years ago in the UK but it got laughed out of Parliment, however with our current crop of politicaly correct control freaks in charge then they might have more success this time round.

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