non USA resident EXTRADITED to face piracy charges - GoFuckYourself.com

rowan · 05-07-2007, 07:24 PM

Ruh roh, the world is changing... he's never set foot in the USA yet he was extradited there to face charges. How long before they go for pr0n webmasters?

http://www.theage.com.au/news/techno...390182639.html

WiredGuy · 05-07-2007, 07:28 PM

I didn't realize extradictions were done for civil law, just criminal. Guess I was wrong.
WG

WarChild · 05-07-2007, 07:29 PM

Is piracy a crime in Australia? I don't think any country is going to start extraditing their citizens for breaking US laws if what they've done is in fact not illegal where they are.

WarChild · 05-07-2007, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I didn't realize extradictions were done for civil law, just criminal. Guess I was wrong.
WG

Many copyright laws have a criminal component.

tucker · 05-07-2007, 07:30 PM

I think it will be a cold day in hell before a US Judge signs a document that allows extradition of a pirate of porn. Messing with software companies and mainstream Hollywood, with their lobby, you will get spanked.

my

Xenophage · 05-07-2007, 07:32 PM

WOW uncle sam is gonna take on the whole world none of you are safe. MCarthyism is gonna come back soon.

tucker · 05-07-2007, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

WOW uncle sam is gonna take on the whole world none of you are safe. MCarthyism is gonna come back soon.

Lars that is funny and oddly enough, quite possibly true...

rowan · 05-07-2007, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

Is piracy a crime in Australia? I don't think any country is going to start extraditing their citizens for breaking US laws if what they've done is in fact not illegal where they are.

Yes. He's been fighting in the courts to be tried under Australian law rather than being extradited.

tenderobject · 05-07-2007, 07:38 PM

wow a lot of people would possibly in jail in the comming years

Matt 26z · 05-07-2007, 07:46 PM

"But Drink or Die's activities did cost American companies money — an estimated $US50 million ($A60 million), if legal sales were substituted for illegal downloads"

What percentage of downloaders would have bought the software? I'd be shocked if it was more than a quarter of one percent.

madawgz · 05-07-2007, 07:49 PM

wow thats really fucked up...

Deputy Chief Command · 05-07-2007, 07:56 PM

at first it SEEMS fucked up .. but then when you read more you see he was not a mere "surfer" but someone who was defrauding the system in a big way

even though he did not make money of his operations himself he actually was helping other people to make money of his actions .. many companies lost many monies because of people like him

to me it seems stupid / dumb to do what he was doing and it definatly should be seen as criminal

if he was just some dude who had an illegal XP profesional he was using for himself . .then yeah Uncle Sam has gone beserk . but no in fact he was defrauding the system in a big way . . so this should be seen as a signal to anyone who is defrauding the system in such a manner .

the case is not new .. it started in 2003 .. so yeah if you are defrauding the system in such a way you should probably consider stopping right now or realise you will be doing some hard time in some prison sooner or later . .

Martin3 · 05-07-2007, 08:02 PM

Leader of DoD, he's fucked. They've been trying to make an example out of them for awhile.

12clicks · 05-07-2007, 08:15 PM

if you're going to be a pirate, do it in a country that doesn't really run by the rule of law. Russia, China, muslim countries, etc.

12clicks · 05-07-2007, 08:26 PM

if you're going to be a pirate, do it in a country that doesn't really run by the rule of law. Russia, China, muslim countries, etc.

suesheboy · 05-07-2007, 08:29 PM

and Epas feels safe LOL

05-07-2007, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

if you're going to be a pirate, do it in a country that doesn't really run by the rule of law. Russia, China, muslim countries, etc.

where should you go if you want to be a butt pirate?

Webby · 05-07-2007, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan

Ruh roh, the world is changing... he's never set foot in the USA yet he was extradited there to face charges. How long before they go for pr0n webmasters?

OK.. It's still contentious, but intellectual property theft is a criminal offense in most western countries - if you add whatever may be the substantive charges, it may well be grounds for extradition. Most western countries have ratified treaties on copyright so.....

Porn webmasters?

Na... "porn" is not an extraditable offense in any country. Tho... CP and child abuse offenses are - and could be argued that "fake CP" (portrayal of a model as a minor) are part of that. "Fake CP" is a criminal offense in Canada, UK and plenty other countries and... could also be under USC 2256 definitions - so could be a basis for any of these countries requesting extradition on that basis. (Can only be effective if the offense is an actual offense in both countries.)

Webby · 05-07-2007, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by suesheboy

and Epas feels safe LOL

Hehe.. ePass is a walkover

headless ghost · 05-07-2007, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by esnem

where should you go if you want to be a butt pirate?

boy alley's house

Love Sex · 05-07-2007, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esnem

where should you go if you want to be a butt pirate?

the closest whore house

12clicks · 05-07-2007, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by esnem

where should you go if you want to be a butt pirate?

my place?

crockett · 05-07-2007, 10:36 PM

So what now we have so much open jail space, that we are importing criminals?

nikooo · 05-08-2007, 04:19 AM

I don't believe this.........

KingK7 · 05-08-2007, 04:29 AM

They let their own citizens be extradited to another country???

wyldworx · 05-08-2007, 04:37 AM

I wish they would extradite me, anything is better than where i live.

Webby · 05-08-2007, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by KingK7

They let their own citizens be extradited to another country???

Does sound kinda weird - especially when Oz law is more than capable of judging and sentencing on this stuff and other defendants in the same operation (Buccaneer) in different countries were prosecuted in their home countries.

Here's a couple more links on this...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hew_Raymond_Griffiths

http://www.computingbusiness.co.uk/v...ate-extradited

http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cyberc...mony061405.htm

directfiesta · 05-08-2007, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

, muslim countries, etc.

Please do so .....

Probono · 05-08-2007, 06:25 AM

Hurumph, perhaps they could have charged beastiality too? Look the the picture on the website! What ever is he smiling about?

GatorB · 05-08-2007, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I didn't realize extradictions were done for civil law, just criminal. Guess I was wrong.
WG

I would think that something called PIRACY from the word PIRATE would in fact be ILLEGAL.

Probono · 05-08-2007, 06:43 AM

It is illegal in both countries or they would not extradite. It is odd they would not let him plea and be sentenced in Australia; looks like they just want to make a posterchild out of him.

05-07-2007, 07:24 PM	#1
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	non USA resident EXTRADITED to face piracy charges Ruh roh, the world is changing... he's never set foot in the USA yet he was extradited there to face charges. How long before they go for pr0n webmasters? http://www.theage.com.au/news/techno...390182639.html

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Deputy Chief Command Deputy Chief Command Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,482	at first it SEEMS fucked up .. but then when you read more you see he was not a mere "surfer" but someone who was defrauding the system in a big way even though he did not make money of his operations himself he actually was helping other people to make money of his actions .. many companies lost many monies because of people like him to me it seems stupid / dumb to do what he was doing and it definatly should be seen as criminal if he was just some dude who had an illegal XP profesional he was using for himself . .then yeah Uncle Sam has gone beserk . but no in fact he was defrauding the system in a big way . . so this should be seen as a signal to anyone who is defrauding the system in such a manner . the case is not new .. it started in 2003 .. so yeah if you are defrauding the system in such a way you should probably consider stopping right now or realise you will be doing some hard time in some prison sooner or later . . __________________

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Probono Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Under the Rainbow Posts: 2,731	Hurumph, perhaps they could have charged beastiality too? Look the the picture on the website! What ever is he smiling about?

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Probono Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Under the Rainbow Posts: 2,731	It is illegal in both countries or they would not extradite. It is odd they would not let him plea and be sentenced in Australia; looks like they just want to make a posterchild out of him.