I once received a check from Globill where the stamp cost was more than the actual check amount :D

damn, how'd this post get so low in the list? How does the ranking work again?

Once again Phil you can't seem to grasp a simple concept here.

No one cheated IBill. Not us, not Lightspeed, not ARS, not Terry -- NO ONE. This is not about IBill dumping someone and not paying them for fraud violations.

If we had defrauded IBill in any manner I would not only expect non payment I would expect a process server in my driveway with notice of a lawsuit, and for them to attempt to recover their monies.

With cheaters grabbing 30 bucks here and 30 bucks there, it's not feasible -- you can't even go to small claims court for 30 bucks.

So if you have something pertinent to this thread by all means reply.

Otherwise start your own thread, since every time I see this one bumped up I think IBill has cut someone a check.

Lightspeed, this is old news.
it only cost me a minimal amout of money.
your programs are new, and not too bad, however
a lot of us have been around the block with
billing co's that don't pay. ibill has been ok, until
the mci worldcom politcal bullshit.
if i could only go into stories of the DMR, digiblase, epoch
stories of old.
they are looking to make it good, so we will see.

In other industries cheaters would be charged with fraud, i would LOVe to see some webmaster charged with fraud.

I'd love to see my dialer reseller wait for the telco money to come and pay me for my telcoweb minutes, but that won't happen. :BangBang:

:mad:

still no response from ibill.

:mad:

I emailed I-Bill a few days ago and said I was interested in using them for my 2 new paysites, but that I had some concerns regarding rumors going around that they are not paying their clients for #900 money owed. I asked if this was true and if so i f they could explain why they were not paying theis money.
Here is their reply
"I am not exactly sure what your questions are or the rumors you are hearing. Please see below a general overview of the products we provide."

Now if they are to stupid to figure out what I'm refering to i sure don't want them handeling my processing. On the other hand if they are avoiding the question, I REALLY don't want them touching my processing.

iBill is totally unprofessional. I could understand if they COULDN'T pay people - but it seems to me that they are just REFUSING to pay as they have lost money - and are passing it on to the customer.

This is why we pay them their commissions - THEY are supposed to manage risk.

I doubt the web 900 is a big part of their business - they should eat it.

If iBill keeps doing this stuff - CCBill and Epoch are going to cream them in the end.

900 sales make up about 5-6% of our total business, I would assume that proportion is the same for ibill

It should serve as a huge warning sign if Ibill is so cash strapped they can't even handle a 5-6% hit!

The people of Ibill are decent people, several of them are my friends. I wish they would all quit and go to work for a company that respects its customers.

nothing from them yet?

Hmm, I sent them the url to this thread and I also noticed they have replied in other threads this morning, Kind of funny that they have just ignored this thread don't ya think, Hmmm, could it be at the advice of their attorny that they are not commenting?

yeah, i've been thinking the same thing.

:321GFY

You know what tho Steve -- what if they aren't strapped for cash, and could easily afford to make the payout? I am not speculating on their cash flow, but I'm not sure which would be worse -- them being cash poor or them being cash greedy.

unless you run a free site.

adult: ccbill all the way baby! :thumbsup
mainstream: clickbank all the way baby! :thumbsup

i reeeeeeeeeeeally hope ibill crashes and burns one day with some type of corporate scandal. that would really make my day. sorry about what they did to you steve. ive said it before and ill say it again, ibill blows.

100 fuckers

100 fuckers and me

Still nothing

Apparently my 1300% increase in sales this year with Ibill isn't enough to warrant being treated fairly.

The ironic part is, they came to my office this spring to ask me for *any* part of my business. I was willing to start new with them, even after two years of bullshit. It looks like I put my trust in the wrong company.

It makes me wonder how they treat webmasters that don't make them a lot of money.

Steve Lightspeed

103! *flexes*

*oww*

will keep bumping this thread forever!:feels-hot :321GFY

we really do need a new dvd player at the office. i need to start showing gay porn to my co-workers :)

why some people thinks: it's for DVD when they see the thread has too many replies...

Has iBill declared bankruptcy? If not, they have to pay any debts that they are contractually bound to pay. I don't see where the question is. Why do people think the law doesn't apply to the adult industry? We're not a world unto ourselves, here.

Lightspeed-- I am sure a lawyer can help you out here. The law is pretty straightforward in this area, isn't it? Why bring it here. Take it to court.

B. Diker: How many lines of text would you say there are in your sig?

uh, maybe because it affects thousands of companies that process thru ibill. web900 is a very small part of most peoples business - not worth suing. this thread is more about ibill's reputation, than it is about lost web900 revenue.

yea thanks to remind me
rules are rules

so check now ..

Regards

Entirely right, as usual quiet.

The cost of getting an attorney to get the money is probably about the same amount as the money if it went to a drawn out situation.

I am not entirely sure what their execs are thinking right now -- perhaps being bought by Intercept is changing them more than it appears.

Could this be the early groundswell of a major class-action suit?


Sure would have been nice to see a post or two from someone at ibill by now.

I know what their execs are thinking.

"DAMN! THESE BIG NEW OFFICES WE GOT KICK ASS! THANKS INTERCEPT!"

And that's about it, sadly...

ROFL, Fatpad can always be counted on for some humor. Unfortunately it's at my expense sometimes, but at least not today... ;)

Still no Ibill


Tanker

While all this has been going on, they've landed me with a lawsuit over alleged trademark infringement - I own web900.co.uk. Apparently, as a result, I've "compromised the goodwill and reputation of iBill and its mark [web900]." Ironic, given that they'd appear to be doing a far better job of that themselves.

--Dave

they are great about spamming me to process with them all the time.
What I don't under stand is why nobody has posted from IBill yet.

Epoch Posted
:thumbsup

Not only will they not post, they won't even answer email about this. The first time I asked them the replied that they didn't understand my question, the second time they have just ignored me. Not that?s the kind of professional company I want handling my processing.

ibill = no future!