What outsourcing company has the best programmers - GoFuckYourself.com

Naughty · 05-03-2007, 01:26 PM

And lets you hire them on a weekly basis, yet are very reliable and there when you need them?

Cheaper labour is okay, but MAN are they hard to keep under control.

jact · 05-03-2007, 01:32 PM

That is definitely the quest for the holy grail. You'll be hard pressed to find consistency and reliability.

Naughty · 05-03-2007, 01:35 PM

Looks like it ...

Naughty · 05-03-2007, 10:56 PM

So there's none?

ztik · 05-03-2007, 11:02 PM

isn't that a oxymoron?

Naughty · 05-03-2007, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ztik

isn't that a oxymoron?

hehe, well. I know it is when looking for designers there ... ;)

Thurbs · 05-03-2007, 11:13 PM

well .. weekly basis is pretty hard to do with reliability, since the best programmers like to have a reliable source of income. hit me up on ICQ .. might have a solution for you

Bdiddy · 05-03-2007, 11:16 PM

Getafreelancer.com <-- but good luck keeping a leash on em.

Find one that is reliable and diligent, and then work a deal with him/her to be available when you need him/her. You'll pay a bit more, but that's the only way that you will find what you are seeking.

This hire by the week thing would be a nightmare for an outsourcing company and is a weak business model imo.

joehoya · 05-03-2007, 11:30 PM

There is an old engineering joke that applies to programmers as well:

"Good, Cheap, Fast, pick two".

jscott · 05-03-2007, 11:44 PM

bump for anymore, i'd like to know aswell

Pornwolf · 05-03-2007, 11:49 PM

Czech/Ukraine coders are more efficient and easier to work with than Indian coders.

Indian coders ask you the same questions repeatedly that their own common sense should have answered for them before they make a move which slows down progress dramatically.

European coders think about it analytically and just do it.

Pornwolf · 05-03-2007, 11:52 PM

Also, don't fall for the $15 trap. Don't be afraid to spend $30 an hour on a reputable outsourcing firm. You will finish faster and with better results in most cases.

All of them will require you to call them on their bullshit as they will all try to pad their hours if they see they can get away with it.

draude · 05-03-2007, 11:55 PM

if you want an outsourcing company. hit me up.

Naughty · 05-04-2007, 12:32 AM

I am working with a russian guy for over a year now.

I like working with him, but he's always 'busy', leaves for days, and i found out that the code he created is pretty sloppy, full with functions from other jobs but mine.

I'm a neathfreak, so codes must be clean and nice. Organized code says something about the programmer, unfortunately, i have yet to see an organized programmer, lol.

Paul Markham · 05-04-2007, 01:42 AM

A good programmer on Craigs list can get work for $50 an hour. So why should anyone good work for less if it's on an irregular basis.

Anyone looking for good and not cheap hit me up. In the long run it saves you money.

And the guy is not in Czech and got decades of experience.

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Bdiddy Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Seattle & Manila Posts: 2,456	Getafreelancer.com <-- but good luck keeping a leash on em. Find one that is reliable and diligent, and then work a deal with him/her to be available when you need him/her. You'll pay a bit more, but that's the only way that you will find what you are seeking. This hire by the week thing would be a nightmare for an outsourcing company and is a weak business model imo. __________________ "..and which one of you had the prime rib?" - Waiter "frankly, I don't see how that's any of your business!" - Peter Griffin

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joehoya Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 82	There is an old engineering joke that applies to programmers as well: "Good, Cheap, Fast, pick two".

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jscott So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Taipei Posts: 25,198	bump for anymore, i'd like to know aswell

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Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Czech/Ukraine coders are more efficient and easier to work with than Indian coders. Indian coders ask you the same questions repeatedly that their own common sense should have answered for them before they make a move which slows down progress dramatically. European coders think about it analytically and just do it. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

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Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Also, don't fall for the $15 trap. Don't be afraid to spend $30 an hour on a reputable outsourcing firm. You will finish faster and with better results in most cases. All of them will require you to call them on their bullshit as they will all try to pad their hours if they see they can get away with it. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

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Naughty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Utopia Posts: 6,482	I am working with a russian guy for over a year now. I like working with him, but he's always 'busy', leaves for days, and i found out that the code he created is pretty sloppy, full with functions from other jobs but mine. I'm a neathfreak, so codes must be clean and nice. Organized code says something about the programmer, unfortunately, i have yet to see an organized programmer, lol. __________________ seks.ai for sale - ping me

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Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	A good programmer on Craigs list can get work for $50 an hour. So why should anyone good work for less if it's on an irregular basis. Anyone looking for good and not cheap hit me up. In the long run it saves you money. And the guy is not in Czech and got decades of experience. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70