i've come to 1 conclusion today....

maybe thats cause Lars knows that there are a lot of webmasters out there that want to promote a sponsor that will allow them to do pretty much anything they want to get sales...so coming back into the spotlight gets those webmasters attention.

I want to make sure everyone knows we pay out the biggest checks and nothing you can say or do will change that in fact we are once again raising payouts ! So everyone get ready cuzz MAY is going to be insaine with even bigger fatter checks for our affilaites, we are still the biggest and will remain so becaus we pay the biggest checks.

You whine and whine that poor AFF is getting all the attention and sure enough right when we have turned the spot light off of you and AFF ( see sexbankroll threads) you start posting and stiring shit up again.


I would swear you do it for the attention, LOL and you call me a drama whore.

jesus when will you learn to keep your mouth shut. You just totally put all of the attention back on yourself that was going to sexbankroll... good job dumbass.

Take my advice, shut the fuck up.... and take some PR classes, when you talk i think you say the worst things possible. Someone call Andrew so he can take Lars' keyboard away before he sinks the company.

I think you could use some of that own advice. You single handedly are the one person who made everyone know about Zango. You may think this holy crusade your doing is good, but I bet you've recruited more webmasters to try Zango than anyone else ever has from GFY.
WG

I think you could use some of that own advice. You single handedly are the one person who made everyone know about Zango. You may think this holy crusade your doing is good, but I bet you've recruited more webmasters to try Zango than anyone else ever has from GFY.
WG

I think you could use some of that own advice. You single handedly are the one person who made everyone know about Zango. You may think this holy crusade your doing is good, but I bet you've recruited more webmasters to try Zango than anyone else ever has from GFY.
WG

I think you could use some of that own advice. You single handedly are the one person who made everyone know about Zango. You may think this holy crusade your doing is good, but I bet you've recruited more webmasters to try Zango than anyone else ever has from GFY.
WG

yeah and these people have never heard of AFF before, they need to see lars making an ass of himself to find out about AFF..

your logic is 1+1=4


I think my equation is more accurate. Look Lars' posts here " zango zango zango zango zango zango " he is just putting more and more attention on himself so he can cry and say that everyone is picking on him, classic.

Right. Better to keep quiet and ignore a problem like zango and the programs that support it.

What was Will thinking?

Yeah...and keeping zango a "secret" is going to make it go away?

Making it more public by branding their name every day certainly isn't helping either.
WG

your dinner is getting cold, why don't you put the keyboard down take a break eat and then you can come back and play some more.

see yah later.

Any publicity is good publicity

epiccash v2.0

Making it more public by branding their name every day certainly isn't helping either.
WG

Here they go again...

ADG Webmaster

I think you could use some of that own advice. You single handedly are the one person who made everyone know about Zango. You may think this holy crusade your doing is good, but I bet you've recruited more webmasters to try Zango than anyone else ever has from GFY.
WG

This is the LAST fucking time i explain this for someone. IF you or someone else misses this post (plus the last 20x I have posted this) then they can think what the fuck they want. Obviously you and others are not smart enough to understand it or don't know a fuck about what you talking about to know how it works.

2 parts to zango. 1. pays people to do installs (zangocash). 2. sells traffic to people (metrics direct).

I post here to educate people about zango, all aspects. When people are educated how zango works then they would have to be morons to promote them to make .40 install only to fuck themselves on all the other sponsors they are advertising on their own site. Some people were promoting zango and stopped because of this, some people reached out to sites that was promoting zango and go them to stop. I DOUBT anyone here started promoting zango installs after finding out how bad they were and other than idiots like dorkjedi and fake sig whores just looking for attention, i haven't heard of anyone. It would make no sense. Installs are by far the thing that causes us the most damage.

The more pcs infected = the more traffic stolen from me.
The more assholes buying traffic from zango DOES NOT = more traffic stolen from me.

The second part is the people who buy traffic. Zango was selling traffic for all the popular urls and keywords long before i started posting about it. They sell traffic by the popup, and people bid on the urls. By posting about Zango the only bad that has come out of all of this is that the cost per click has gone up because more people bidding on their services. (AFF perfect example.) SO some asshole pays .04 a popup for my sponsor's url (my traffic) where as before he was buying it for .01. The amount of popups the infected user is seeing is the SAME. Zango caps how many is allowed to happen over a period of time so more people buying traffic doesn't mean more popups, just means zango makes more per pop up. My traffic is still being stolen regardless. The other part is the assholes who read this and want to use zango, let them. They expose themselves and I am sure a lot of people will stop doing business with them or skip over them in the future.

GOOD from my posting here: Make all affiliates aware how zango works so they never promote them. Some people were promoting them and stopped because they had no idea how it worked. Some webmasters have made scripts that notify the surfer their pc is infected. The sponsors who use stolen traffic have been exposed.

Bad: zango makes more per click from assholes who want to buy traffic from them.

While I don't want Zango to make more money, them making more money hasn't hurt me or anyone else here. If more sponsors stop using them, we keep working on people doing the installs , and the FTC stays on their ass, then we have a shot.

I think the good outweighs the bad.

So why don't you shut the fuck up for a little while, stop making stupid fucking comments like all i am doing is educating people how to use zango, and try a little reading comprehension and see if it can sink in this time.

Making it more public by branding their name every day certainly isn't helping either.
WG

I think you could use some of that own advice. You single handedly are the one person who made everyone know about Zango. You may think this holy crusade your doing is good, but I bet you've recruited more webmasters to try Zango than anyone else ever has from GFY.
WG

I agree with you whole heartedly.

DH

How many installs did you do for zango? I believe you said you use to speak with them so if they talked to you must have been doing a good volume. We all know you do a lot of traffic.

So how many computers did you help infect, 1000, more than 10,000 ????


Did you even download the shit you were promoting to see how it worked or did you even really care ?

You posted in a previous thread the only reason you stopped was because they didn't pay you.

Any publicity is good publicity

simple equation:


Lars + mouth = foot


You whine and whine that poor AFF is getting all the attention and sure enough right when we have turned the spot light off of you and AFF ( see sexbankroll threads) you start posting and stiring shit up again.


I would swear you do it for the attention, LOL and you call me a drama whore.

jesus when will you learn to keep your mouth shut. You just totally put all of the attention back on yourself that was going to sexbankroll... good job dumbass.

Take my advice, shut the fuck up.... and take some PR classes, when you talk i think you say the worst things possible. Someone call Andrew so he can take Lars' keyboard away before he sinks the company.

I want to make sure everyone knows we pay out the biggest checks and nothing you can say or do will change that in fact we are once again raising payouts ! So everyone get ready cuzz MAY is going to be insaine with even bigger fatter checks for our affilaites, we are still the biggest and will remain so becaus we pay the biggest checks.

Hey Wiredguy where did you go Mr 2 cents.

You jumped in this thread to tell me I am doing more harm than good. When in fact you probably infected 1000's of PCs with zango. Then i defend what i am doing here with several reasons stating how I am doing more good than bad and you run like a little bitch.

Why don't you come back and talk about this, or does one sentence comments and run, suit you better.

Take my advice, shut the fuck up....

Do you know I seriously doubt this.

If you pay more than anyone else why do you need to put up your payments? You are already the best place to send the traffic and there's little chance of someone sending it elsewhere.

If on the other hand you are slipping then you do need to pay more to get more people to stay on to try your program.

Just applying common sense to the discussion.

"We pay more and better than anyone else, so going to increase payments For no reason other than we are nice guys."

Make sense to anyone else?

Will is using some pretty harsh language when it comes to Zango.

Last time I checked, they are an adware company not a spyware/malware company.

They clearly lay out terms and what comes bundled with their shit, so in no way are they 'infecting' users. It is very easy to remove, and each popup window clearly identifies the ad is served with Zango and provides links to removal instructions.

It currently conforms to all laws and requirements. They are running a brilliant operation and probably rolling in the dough.

In no way are they 'stealing' your sales, as the user has consented to receiving relevant advertisements to their searching.

Can't blame people for outsmarting the masses and reaping the rewards.

This might be a dumbest post today, not many will debate AFF/CAMS is the biggest, and as for a reason to continue to raise payouts, its because they want to stay on top...

Think like a business man and you might come to a different conclusion.

Giving out more to affiliates means you make less, if you get more traffic and more sign ups you can still maker less by paying out more.

Unless there is a catch somewhere.

Go get a calculator and work it out for yourself.

Paying out 50% of $100 = $50
Paying out 55% of $110 = $49.50
Paying out 55% of $120 = $54
Paying out 60% of $120 = $48

Unless you massively increase the turnover you can lose more than you gain. Unless there are catches. Maybe getting lots of newbies to send traffic they never get paid on makes it profitable.

Maybe your program works like that.

OnlineRiches,
The New York Times dubbed this kind of software as stealware. There is plenty of evidence out there showing exactly what is happening, and has happened. Sure, they morph thier business model a little every time they get into hot water.
http://www.benedelman.org/spyware/180-affiliates
http://www.benedelman.org/news/070804-1.html

If all their installs are so squeaky clean why did they just get fined by the FTC?

Why were they advertising porn to kids they sucked in from a kids site(and even made the graphics especially for children)? A real stand up maneuver from a standup company.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...072701620.html

Why do they keep deleting relevant and factual information about them on Wikipedia?
http://www.vitalsecurity.org/2007/04...on-part-5.html

Why do they let the 'affiliate' that did the Myspace phishing continue pushing their scumware?
http://www.vitalsecurity.org/2006/07...l-pushing.html

To say that Zango / Seekmo / Hotbar / 180solutions / Metricsdirect software is easy to uninstall is almost true, depending on how and where you get it. But it certainly leaves a lot of artery clogging shit behind.

If you don't think you are losing sales to this type of software...
Even today you can lose a sale by Zango software popping up someones page that is identical to the page you just sent that surfer to. If that is not facilitating theft, what is? If a surfer is on AFF, why is there any reason to pop another full page of AFF, if not to steal that customer?

Why aren't they a member of the BBB anymore? Here's a link that gives a few details among other information about this thiefware company.
http://www.ghettowebmaster.com/zango...siness-bureau/

Will,
All these people that give you shit about making this public appear to be irritated that you upped their cost per click to steal traffic, or made their cut of the pie that much smaller when doing installs, or both. Those are the only reasons anyone might bitch about exposing scammers and thieves.

Are we talking about the biggest affiliate program or the most profitable? Which thinking AFF is likely in the running for both, but that's another debate.... If AFF pays out more to affiliates than anyone else they are the largest affiliate program, you don't need calculator for that!

Fuck you are tool!