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kenny · 08-17-2002, 08:16 PM

Who invented the TGP? I am just curious. While I am at it what was the first major adult site on the web?

Fletch XXX · 08-17-2002, 08:18 PM

Not sure so I wont post and look silly, but I have a few ideas, wait for the older guys to show...

roseyrid · 08-17-2002, 08:21 PM

i would guess thehun, or persiankitty....but again, what do i know, but i know they were one of the first few

Juilioso · 08-17-2002, 08:24 PM

The first TGP was invented by the scientist from back to the future. He also invented the pocket pussy

kmanrox · 08-17-2002, 08:26 PM

http://www.adultbuffet.com/tgp/tgp.htm

and it was announced on my radio show, the first webmaster radio show =) By James Buffet

Daymare · 08-17-2002, 08:26 PM

It's not PK, she was one of the first link lists but didn't have a TGP until a couple years ago.

kenny · 08-17-2002, 08:33 PM

How about the first adult site to charge surfers money for a password to access the content.

Pipecrew · 08-17-2002, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kenny
How about the first adult site to charge surfers money for a password to access the content.

Teenass.com

the Shemp · 08-17-2002, 08:38 PM

Kman knows...
Adult Buffet started it, the other sites were linking to indexes, then they gradually integrated thumb galleries. Once the surfers saw the thumbs galleries, indexes didnt last long.

shemp

kenny · 08-17-2002, 08:40 PM

Thanks guys just wanted to learn a little about the history of the industry

mrthumbs · 08-17-2002, 08:42 PM

- Who submitted the first gallery ever..?

- What horny bastard signed up for a paysite first time ever..?

questions questions questions

the Shemp · 08-17-2002, 08:50 PM

The gallery was perfected by a guy called cappy/jappy/
At least he invented gallery spamming.

The most Legendary gallery was posted on the Hun by a guy called Firebat.

my opinion, anyway

shemp

kenny · 08-17-2002, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by the Shemp
The gallery was perfected by a guy called cappy/jappy/
At least he invented gallery spamming.

The most Legendary gallery was posted on the Hun by a guy called Firebat.

my opinion, anyway

shemp

Here it is more questions.

Why was Firebat's gallery so legendary? And do you know the URL? I dont mean to annoy anyone with my questions it just provokes my interest.

steffie · 08-17-2002, 09:06 PM

The first Amateur Site who charged money was either http://www.carolcox.com or http://www.jen-dave.com
I found Jen and Dave in 1996. We started our paysite in September 96 and there were already some larger paysites around, like Cyber babes.. but on the Amateur site I have to go with either Carol or Jen. I think they are both in 95..

kmanrox · 08-17-2002, 09:10 PM

the first webmaster affiliate program, was Amateur Hardcore by Al HAdhazy.... i think there has been some argument that cybererotica was first, and i think FM even proved it, but i dont know... i remember AH was my first sponsor in 1996...

the Shemp · 08-17-2002, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kenny

Here it is more questions.

Why was Firebat's gallery so legendary? And do you know the URL? I dont mean to annoy anyone with my questions it just provokes my interest.

Kenny, if you email me, i will send you the details, as the info resides on another board. shemp at shemp.com

regards

quiet · 08-17-2002, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by steffie
The first Amateur Site who charged money was either http://www.carolcox.com or http://www.jen-dave.com
I found Jen and Dave in 1996. We started our paysite in September 96 and there were already some larger paysites around, like Cyber babes.. but on the Amateur site I have to go with either Carol or Jen. I think they are both in 95..

i seem to remember wetlands was around in late 95. could be wrong though.

JakeR · 08-17-2002, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by the Shemp

The most Legendary gallery was posted on the Hun by a guy called Firebat.

my opinion, anyway

shemp

ahh the firebat gallery with no body tags, the 300 page thread over at porncity

Michael O · 08-17-2002, 10:35 PM

The Firebat gallery truely a legend!
People still talk about it! Once in a while it comes up and is discussed in detail! I never saw it but I´ve heard so much about it!

Shemp its right its a legend

Sly_RJ · 08-17-2002, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JakeR
ahh the firebat gallery with no body tags, the 300 page thread over at porncity

I was looking through the thread briefly. Is the gallery a legend because of the thread? Or something else?

kenny · 08-17-2002, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

I was looking through the thread briefly. Is the gallery a legend because of the thread? Or something else?

I was checking it out too, it looked like 99% of the thread was about making the longest thread in history not firebats gallery. I couldnt find the URL to the gallery anywhere.

tomshacks · 08-17-2002, 11:16 PM

My guess would be adult buffet.

The funny thing is at the time people didnt realize how poorly it converted.

A little after serge figured out that TGP traffic didnt convert very well and expelled all TGP traffic from his program. My memory is a bit foggy, but I think I first heard on sharky live.

tom

tomshacks · 08-17-2002, 11:17 PM

What about picpost?

the Shemp · 08-17-2002, 11:39 PM

That gallery is 4 years old and i guess long gone.
So is Firebat. It is a legend because it spawned that thread and it keeps popping up periodically. I hope you guys werent expecting some free secret to successful galleries, because the Leader charges $140.00 an hour for consulting services.

shemp

the Shemp · 08-17-2002, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tomshacks
What about picpost?

Been around a long time, but the original PicPost was not a TGP.

shemp

Moose · 08-17-2002, 11:44 PM

I would like to personaly thank the guy who thought
"hey lets bypass all the fullpage ads and banners and link directly to the picture gallerys"

thank you!

kmanrox · 08-17-2002, 11:45 PM

moose, if it werent for TGPs, more than likely, you wouldnt have a business =)

kenny · 08-17-2002, 11:48 PM

GFY needs a pointless super thread

kmanrox · 08-17-2002, 11:48 PM

you can begin giving pointless super head whenever you like...

kenny · 08-17-2002, 11:50 PM

I think you misread my post

Moose · 08-17-2002, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kmanrox
moose, if it werent for TGPs, more than likely, you wouldnt have a business =)

ooo
ya you dont kow me very well

We take super head as well

Sly_RJ · 08-17-2002, 11:56 PM

Who killed kenny?

kenny · 08-18-2002, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Who killed kenny?

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Pornwolf · 08-18-2002, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Moose
I would like to personaly thank the guy who thought
"hey lets bypass all the fullpage ads and banners and link directly to the picture gallerys"

thank you!

Yeah, I got a special gift for him too. It's a real nice copper colored .44 caliber gift. He will like it a lot.

tomshacks · 08-18-2002, 12:33 AM

The way back machine...AKA

archive.org

Might be able to answer this question.

the Shemp · 08-18-2002, 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornwolf

Yeah, I got a special gift for him too. It's a real nice copper colored .44 caliber gift. He will like it a lot.

Originally, pix on html pages with banners and 8 or 10 thumbs on a gallery were pretty much accepted. As the idea beacame popular, submissions started to go up, free hosts popped up, free content beacame available. Everybody was posting galleries.
So, the TGP owners tightened the rules. The .html pages with pix were no longer accepted. They were too easy to redirect to a Paysite or even a CP site. The number of thumbs was raised to 10, 12, 15 and more. The number of outlinks was reduced, but the galleries still poured in. Auto submitters got popular. Some TGP guys went to the 1 gallery every 3 or 4 days method, other wanted a link to one of their sponsors, other expect a few bucks in their pocket, every guy deals with it differently.

It was an evolution over time, based on popular concept with the surfer and an easy, cheap way to get traffic for the gallery webmaster.

regards

shemp

SleazyDream · 08-18-2002, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet

i seem to remember wetlands was around in late 95. could be wrong though.

I remember hearing something about wetlands getting sued by ducks unlimited concerning the name. Anyone know anything about that?

SleazyDream · 08-18-2002, 06:57 AM

back in the early TGP days the smartest guy I knew circle jerked the traffic and fed it by pop-up into the third largest MP3 sites out there. There was 'stupid money' to be made in an MP3 site via banner ads - amounts that would make even the big site boys of today sit up and be amazed. Probally why this guy is still referred to by almost everyone (who knows anything) as 'Legondary Lars'

To give you an idea he got sued for 10 million by sony and it didn't really hurt him all that much.

now that's what I call turning shit circle jerk popup up adult traffic into GOLD.

08-17-2002, 08:16 PM	#1
kenny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,245	The first TGP Who invented the TGP? I am just curious. While I am at it what was the first major adult site on the web?

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roseyrid Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: LA Posts: 1,058	i would guess thehun, or persiankitty....but again, what do i know, but i know they were one of the first few Last edited by roseyrid; 08-17-2002 at 08:22 PM..

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kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,292	http://www.adultbuffet.com/tgp/tgp.htm and it was announced on my radio show, the first webmaster radio show =) By James Buffet __________________ Crypto HODLr Crypto mining Angel investor

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the Shemp congrats to the winners Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Echo Beach Posts: 10,891	Kman knows... Adult Buffet started it, the other sites were linking to indexes, then they gradually integrated thumb galleries. Once the surfers saw the thumbs galleries, indexes didnt last long. shemp __________________ i use Vacares...so should you Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

08-17-2002, 08:24 PM	#4
Juilioso Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: TX Posts: 47	The first TGP was invented by the scientist from back to the future. He also invented the pocket pussy

08-17-2002, 08:26 PM	#6
Daymare Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,674	It's not PK, she was one of the first link lists but didn't have a TGP until a couple years ago.

08-17-2002, 08:33 PM	#7
kenny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,245	How about the first adult site to charge surfers money for a password to access the content.

08-17-2002, 08:40 PM	#10
kenny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,245	Thanks guys just wanted to learn a little about the history of the industry

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08-17-2002, 08:50 PM	#12
the Shemp congrats to the winners Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Echo Beach Posts: 10,891	The gallery was perfected by a guy called cappy/jappy/ At least he invented gallery spamming. The most Legendary gallery was posted on the Hun by a guy called Firebat. my opinion, anyway shemp __________________ i use Vacares...so should you Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

08-17-2002, 09:06 PM	#14
steffie Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Mountains, far far away Posts: 2,422	The first Amateur Site who charged money was either http://www.carolcox.com or http://www.jen-dave.com I found Jen and Dave in 1996. We started our paysite in September 96 and there were already some larger paysites around, like Cyber babes.. but on the Amateur site I have to go with either Carol or Jen. I think they are both in 95.. __________________ Partying since '96 and not going anywhere Anna's Dorm

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kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,292	the first webmaster affiliate program, was Amateur Hardcore by Al HAdhazy.... i think there has been some argument that cybererotica was first, and i think FM even proved it, but i dont know... i remember AH was my first sponsor in 1996... __________________ Crypto HODLr Crypto mining Angel investor

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Michael O More Cowbell Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nakhom Nowhere Posts: 10,607	The Firebat gallery truely a legend! People still talk about it! Once in a while it comes up and is discussed in detail! I never saw it but I´ve heard so much about it! Shemp its right its a legend __________________ Truth Teller

08-17-2002, 11:16 PM	#22
tomshacks Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 11	My guess would be adult buffet. The funny thing is at the time people didnt realize how poorly it converted. A little after serge figured out that TGP traffic didnt convert very well and expelled all TGP traffic from his program. My memory is a bit foggy, but I think I first heard on sharky live. tom

08-17-2002, 11:17 PM	#23
tomshacks Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 11	What about picpost?

08-17-2002, 11:39 PM	#24
the Shemp congrats to the winners Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Echo Beach Posts: 10,891	That gallery is 4 years old and i guess long gone. So is Firebat. It is a legend because it spawned that thread and it keeps popping up periodically. I hope you guys werent expecting some free secret to successful galleries, because the Leader charges $140.00 an hour for consulting services. shemp __________________ i use Vacares...so should you Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

08-17-2002, 11:44 PM	#26
Moose Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Here Posts: 1,548	I would like to personaly thank the guy who thought "hey lets bypass all the fullpage ads and banners and link directly to the picture gallerys" thank you!

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kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,292	moose, if it werent for TGPs, more than likely, you wouldnt have a business =) __________________ Crypto HODLr Crypto mining Angel investor

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kenny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,245	GFY needs a pointless super thread

08-17-2002, 11:50 PM	#30
kenny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,245	I think you misread my post

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tomshacks Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 11	The way back machine...AKA archive.org Might be able to answer this question. __________________ ICQ 9210629

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