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Old 08-17-2002, 05:29 PM   #1
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Wwiii ?

http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe...raq/index.html

Looks to me like Russia, Iraq, N. Korea, and a few other rogue nations are planning a lil sumthin sumthin for us....

What do you think?

Could they take us, the Allied forces?
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Old 08-17-2002, 05:33 PM   #2
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pic too big: my comments didnt make sense anyway..
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Old 08-17-2002, 05:34 PM   #3
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Old 08-17-2002, 05:37 PM   #7
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Old 08-17-2002, 05:48 PM   #9
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they want australia to drop supporting the U.S
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Old 08-17-2002, 05:49 PM   #10
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I saw that on the news. The US wants to take Sadam and his goverment out of power in Iraq. If Russia and Iraq becoming multi billion dollar economic trading partners, Russia probably would have Iraqs back for their own interest.
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Old 08-17-2002, 05:50 PM   #11
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Damn. Thanks for the post K-Man, I didn't catch this on the news yet. It looks like we are about to get a collective middle finger.

I would hope that Bush looks at this realizes it doesn't make sense to keep stressing over these other little shit countries and focuses his attention on making our nation as strong as it's supposed to be. Who gives a flying fuck about the other countries that aren't our admitted allies? They don't matter anway.

If he really wants to stick his nose in other countries business for psuedo-political gain, why doesn't he start trying to take over and develop all the spaces that don't have lights shining in this picture that TeenGodFather posted. All empty, undeveloped land is dark in this photo.

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Old 08-17-2002, 05:53 PM   #12
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Heh, I think the government found out about some shit Iraq is up to, since we spy all the time. They might be able to take the US, until OUR allies step in. IRAQ
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Probably not, but I have a feeling sadam is a big fan of SCAT. If there is a profile for SCAT lovers I think he would fit it.
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the only thing i am alarmed by is the fact that Russia has always been power hungry, and now they are down with Iraq, and N Korea doesnt mess around either... it's only a matter of time before China wants to get down too... this would not be a very nice thing...
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Old 08-17-2002, 09:12 PM   #17
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the only thing i am alarmed by is the fact that Russia has always been power hungry, and now they are down with Iraq, and N Korea doesnt mess around either... it's only a matter of time before China wants to get down too... this would not be a very nice thing...

And atleast two of them have nukes, and atleast one of them are fucked up enough to use them
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Old 08-17-2002, 09:50 PM   #19
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Russia can not afford war. That's why Russia making deals like this one right now, they badly need money. But they aren't going to do anything if we invade Iraq (Except whining of course). The russian army is in very bad shape.
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Russia can not afford war. That's why Russia making deals like this one right now, they badly need money. But they aren't going to do anything if we invade Iraq (Except whining of course). The russian army is in very bad shape.
i didnt know that... i know in past history their army is generally very strong, and war hardened...
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Get ready. I say we will invade Iraq around Xmas/New Years time. And it won't mean Jack Shit if Iran, Saudi Arabia and any other nation decides to join in the fun. We've got Republicans in power, and they are eager to step into everyone's shit. You can bet your ass they won't be calling off the slaughter like they did last time. They just keep the press away if it gets too ugly.

9/11 is coming up real fast. Expect the media to start whipping us into a renewed frenzy. And it really won't take much. Show 5 minutes of video and the whole country will be extremely pissed off. The Pres. will capitalize on this and keep the ball rolling into the Holidays. And then it's on.
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Get ready. I say we will invade Iraq around Xmas/New Years time. And it won't mean Jack Shit if Iran, Saudi Arabia and any other nation decides to join in the fun. We've got Republicans in power, and they are eager to step into everyone's shit. You can bet your ass they won't be calling off the slaughter like they did last time. They just keep the press away if it gets too ugly.

9/11 is coming up real fast. Expect the media to start whipping us into a renewed frenzy. And it really won't take much. Show 5 minutes of video and the whole country will be extremely pissed off. The Pres. will capitalize on this and keep the ball rolling into the Holidays. And then it's on.
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Look guys, I don't want you to think I am a tree hugging ass jockey but I can't stand to see everyone manipulated like this. There is very little reason for us to be fighting with the Arab countries. If there wasn't oil over there do you think we would have given them any attention at all?

If you do a little digging and look at the Bush family interest you will see that the attention on the folks over there that started in the late 80's as papa Bush took over has been based on pure bullshit. No one wants a war with us. It would effect everones economy so adversely life would not be the same for anyone (assuming anyone else is alive.) The Arabs are crazy but they aren't completely stupid.

The WTC disaster was terrible but it has not been proven who did it and why. Our government does so much shit to other nations it could have been for anything and as some conspiracy freaks say, it could have even been us to give us cause to wreak havoc like we are trying to do.

It has been rumored that the bush family has dibs on some of the oil rigs in Kuwait now. I wouldn't be surprised. There's more back room deals going on than you can shake a stick at. Remember, a country is just a large corporation. The GDP is our year end revenue statement. The President is the head of the corp. He is entitled to make his special side deals just like the president of At&t does. But don't be suckered into beleiving the nightly newscasts word for word.

At the end of the day, as I said before, none of these piss ant countries mean much to us as a country. Iraq? Iran? Afganistan? N. Korea? Russia? None of them mean shit to us. They don't want war either. It doesn't help them at all economically which is the motivating factor of war.

Stop falling for the bullshit. The people of China hate us more than The Arabs do. There have been major evil doings in other countries as well but we don't stick our necks out for them. Until we get involved in something that doesn't involve oil or obvious money you can't believe what is on the news. What you should believe is the fact that we wasted hundreds of millions bombing dirt for the cameras trying to "find" Usama Bin Laden. Bullshit. That money could have been put to good use here in America where we have more important problems. If we were really trying to kill him it wouldn't have been with fucking missles but with a biological weapon or a plain bullet.
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i didnt know that... i know in past history their army is generally very strong, and war hardened...
You didn't know that because you are a FUDAWM.

Russia's military is in extremely bad condition. The soldiers are not paid regularly. Their pay is ridiculously low, when they are paid. The desertion and AWOL rate is very high. The soldiers do not even have enough food to eat. Some units spend most of their day tending their gardens and chickens etc. in order to have food. Training in all categories is virtually non-existent because they do not have the munitions, or replacement parts to repair vehicles and aircraft. For the most part their Navy is collecting rust. They are a broke third world country with a third world military. The only viable military force they have are their nuked ICBM's and their readiness is debatable.

The entire Eastern World is not a match for the USA by itself, let alone the combined Western World (if Russian used its ICBM's they could do damage). There is not a country on the Earth that has the ability to invade us, where as we have the ability to invavde anywhere we choose.

I seriously doubt that Russia is making any deals of import with Iraq or any other country that we need to be overly concerned about. Putin is smart enough to know that we are Russia's most important friend, or enemy, as the choice is his to make.

Admittedly, we could not militarily engage a major portion of the World simutaneously with the size of our current forces (without using our Nukes), so the draft would have to be implemented and our country's industries would have to be put into wartime production.

As far as invading Iraq, at this point in time I am not in favor of an invasion, because it is not necessary. We have good eyes in the sky and can pretty much tell what is taking place in the country. Someone has leaked to the press a list of around 700 targets, that may be potential producers of chemical, biological, or nuclear weapons. We can take these targets out, using air power in a few weeks time, thus keeping Sadam contained.

An invasion contains risks that are unpredictable in many different possible ways and simply is not necessary, at this point in time.

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the only thing i am alarmed by is the fact that Russia has always been power hungry, and now they are down with Iraq, and N Korea doesnt mess around either... it's only a matter of time before China wants to get down too... this would not be a very nice thing...
FYI Russia was "down with Iraq" prior to the time we engaged Sadam's forces in '91. Korea is not a military threat to the US, or any other country, other than South Korea. China is not currently a military threat to the US and will not be in a position to be a military threat for at least another twenty to forty years, if then. In addition; historically China has not been much of an expanionist nation.
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they want australia to drop supporting the U.S
Hell will freeze over first.
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Probably not, but I have a feeling sadam is a big fan of SCAT. If there is a profile for SCAT lovers I think he would fit it.
FYI, he only likes Camel shit.
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...Asked about potential repercussions from the United States over the pending agreement, the ambassador said, "We couldn't care less what the U.S. thinks about it ... let America bring its own house into order."


He definitely has a point....
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Why do people fear China?

Besides the Taiwan dispute, China doesn't have plans to run the world or start invading everyone. They pretty much mind their own business.
Taiwan is the only exception.
Fuck let them take Taiwan and maybe we can be friends with them. I'm really lost why we think of them as an enemy when they haven't done anything.
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The concern is about China becoming a dominant power in the region, reducing the influence of the US. And that can be done by increasing the power of the Chinese navy and using it to aggressively impose that agenda.
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The concern is about China becoming a dominant power in the region, reducing the influence of the US. And that can be done by increasing the power of the Chinese navy and using it to aggressively impose that agenda.
China has the potential to become a Super Power, but that is still in the future.
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because their population is growing out of control and they are the largest communist state in the world...

haven't you seen Blade Runner - Mandarin (chinese) WILL become the primary global language eventually...

Not to mention those fucking clouds these douche-bags keep producing, not to mention the warez and hotlinking :p
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China has the potential to become a Super Power, but that is still in the future.
I would agree with that. The question is just how far China wants to impose itself.
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Nah, they cant take us... The only way they'd take us out is with a mass assult w/ bio or nuclear bombs.
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Change the regime in Iraq, then let the Saudis sell thier oil to Europe, and well buy from a democratic Iraq.

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Heh.. Johnny Howard's (our PM's) head is so far up bush's ass.. I dont think you need to worry about Aus. backing down... Johnny likes being George's lapdog.
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Although growing up in LA the concrete Jungle has prepared me for anything.

I live in a nice area and I saw a guy get blasted in front of my place. they both had AK's and we had bullet holes all over the building.
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