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YanksAngel 04-19-2007 10:33 AM
My point is that even if it were sarcasm and i figured it was, it was not cool. Why should anyone need to learn your "style' to take offense. I don't think it was funny and though I had the intellect to see it was just your way of sarcasm it showed disrespect. Do you think Canadians or the others found it gave them a chuckle. I don't want to fight I just think you can surely agree it was at least in bad taste. Thats all. Anytime you speak publicly and reference a country and represent one too, others will read your words and they will not know your writing style either. True?

And hey there Mr. so I am new to posting on the board. I usually only open my mouth when I have something worth saying and well I felt this was worth saying. Now everyone knows I am but a newbie. Shhhhh.

Did you like what I had to say though other than the last paragraph Phoenix? Did it make sense? I would like a bit of feedback on that if you had some time. Don't stay mad at an Angel ok?

huey 04-19-2007 11:02 AM
All empires must fall.

Paul 04-19-2007 01:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 12277798)
Exactly. :thumbsup

All it takes to envoke Martial Law is a pandemic of some sort and the Bush administration has been preping us for such a thing. First Sars, then Bird Flu.......
I must say that I'm rather speptical about the threat of Bird Flu and the promotion of the vaccine Tamiflu once I found out about how much Donald Rumsfeld has invested in the company and his links to the company.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Probono (Post 12279383)
In the past the US was a place a single blue collar worker could afford a high quality life style for his family, now it takes two earners and it's often difficult for them; it will get much worse. If China allows it's currency to float Walmart will not be a bargin anymore and you might be ssurprised how fast thet will effect inflation and consumer prices.
Interesting Britain is currently going through a lot of similar changes.

Quote:
Originally Posted by YanksAngel (Post 12279997)
You know what I am saying is true. Our nation was powerful in the past because we lived in a time where honor was everything to a man. To be without honor in the society would mean he was not worth anything at all. Today we have liars and cheaters and thieves and gangs all doing things to hurt others right in front of our very eyes and what do we do? We look the other way. We are in a bad way because of who we are inside and what we do or don't even know we believe in.

God help us to remember to stand up for what is right and wrong and give us the courage to shout it from our own very rooftops... Before it is too late to save us. It all starts with you.... each of you. I know this sounds so simplified and like nothing to do with all of this but IMO it is the core of this . It is how we got here and why we are not able to snap out of it.

Two more things to point out briefly... We have a President that can't keep his dick in his pants long enough to protect the reputation of a nation during his term and then bold faced lies about it and we do nothing. What did that teach our youth about right and wrong? It taught them that they can get away with anything as long as you know the right people or can reason it away. Not standing up and punishing the wrong doers.
Nice post! I totally agree

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Originally Posted by campimp (Post 12279426)
america is not going anywhere anytime soon...

but i give the world about 5 years before they start to realize the american dollar isnt even worth the paper it is printed on. once the world stops demanding dollars and the dollar collapses americans are fucked, but then again maybe it will just be time to nuke a couple countries and get back on top again
Surely the dollar can only slide so far before every country in the world has to change their reserve currency to some other currency (of more value) IF that was to take place then I'd say that would be the final straw.

Michaelious 04-19-2007 01:39 PM
It will probably last another 25 years the way it is.

YanksAngel 04-20-2007 09:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coatsy (Post 12281469)
I must say that I'm rather speptical about the threat of Bird Flu and the promotion of the vaccine Tamiflu once I found out about how much Donald Rumsfeld has invested in the company and his links to the company.
can you elaborate more on this topic I am very interested in hearing it. Ty

Splum 04-20-2007 09:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coatsy (Post 12281469)
I must say that I'm rather speptical about the threat of Bird Flu and the promotion of the vaccine Tamiflu once I found out about how much Donald Rumsfeld has invested in the company and his links to the company.
I own stock in Gilead too, does that make me part of the NWO?
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
http://quote.morningstar.com/Quote/Q...px?ticker=GILD

Splum 04-20-2007 09:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by YanksAngel (Post 12285817)
can you elaborate more on this topic I am very interested in hearing it. Ty
I find your choice of program name EXTREMELY OFFENSIVE. When are you going to open NiggaCash? Or perhaps GookCash? Fuck off you fucking anti-American fuck.

SugarTaTa 04-20-2007 10:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 12277564)
What I mean by that is.....

History repeats itself and "World Power" has been known to shift time and time again.

IMHO, the U.S. is being flushed straight down the shitter...Has been for a long time but especially now. I'm not sure if America will be remain "a super power" after facing another revolutionary war or if another country will dominate us but either way....We are in for some major changes.

I will honestly be surprised if the U.S. remains in tact long enough to see another President.....And I have predictions on how that could play out as well.

No matter how you look at it.....We're fucked and as much as I hate to say it.....Rightly so after the way we treat other countries.

Your thoughts?
Our country will survive. It may not be something pretty, but we will survive. There is no other real super power at this point. We've networked enough to make friends... we're still the "land of opportunity".

Paul 04-20-2007 11:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by YanksAngel (Post 12285817)
can you elaborate more on this topic I am very interested in hearing it.
There is a lot of information about his ties with Tamiflu, here is a good link

http://money.cnn.com/2005/10/31/news...tune_rumsfeld/

Plenty more if you do a few searches on google

Quote:
Rumsfeld served as Gilead (Research)'s chairman from 1997 until he joined the Bush administration in 2001, and he still holds a Gilead stake valued at between $5 million and $25 million, according to federal financial disclosures filed by Rumsfeld.

The forms don't reveal the exact number of shares Rumsfeld owns, but in the past six months fears of a pandemic and the ensuing scramble for Tamiflu have sent Gilead's stock from $35 to $47. That's made the Pentagon chief, already one of the wealthiest members of the Bush cabinet, at least $1 million richer.

Rumsfeld isn't the only political heavyweight benefiting from demand for Tamiflu, which is manufactured and marketed by Swiss pharma giant Roche. (Gilead receives a royalty from Roche equaling about 10% of sales.) Former Secretary of State George Shultz, who is on Gilead's board, has sold more than $7 million worth of Gilead since the beginning of 2005.

Another board member is the wife of former California Gov. Pete Wilson.

"I don't know of any biotech company that's so politically well-connected," says analyst Andrew McDonald of Think Equity Partners in San Francisco.

What's more, the federal government is emerging as one of the world's biggest customers for Tamiflu. In July, the Pentagon ordered $58 million worth of the treatment for U.S. troops around the world, and Congress is considering a multi-billion dollar purchase. Roche expects 2005 sales for Tamiflu to be about $1 billion, compared with $258 million in 2004.

Rumsfeld recused himself from any decisions involving Gilead when he left Gilead and became Secretary of Defense in early 2001. And late last month, notes a senior Pentagon official, Rumsfeld went even further and had the Pentagon's general counsel issue additional instructions outlining what he could and could not be involved in if there were an avian flu pandemic and the Pentagon had to respond.

As the flu issue heated up early this year, according to the Pentagon official, Rumsfeld considered unloading his entire Gilead stake and sought the advice of the Department of Justice, the SEC and the federal Office of Government Ethics.

Those agencies didn't offer an opinion so Rumsfeld consulted a private securities lawyer, who advised him that it was safer to hold on to the stock and be quite public about his recusal rather than sell and run the risk of being accused of trading on insider information, something Rumsfeld doesn't believe he possesses. So he's keeping his shares for the time being.
Obviously this doesn't prove anything but imo it's one of those things that makes ya go, hmmmmmm.

Bryan G 04-20-2007 11:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by YanksAngel
can you elaborate more on this topic I am very interested in hearing it. Ty


Quote:
Originally Posted by Splum (Post 12285885)
I find your choice of program name EXTREMELY OFFENSIVE. When are you going to open NiggaCash? Or perhaps GookCash? Fuck off you fucking anti-American fuck.

Another fantastic post by splum :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

profiteer 04-20-2007 12:07 PM
historically all other top civilizations have fallen, so it's just a matter of time!

RyuLion 04-20-2007 12:10 PM
Anyone wanna come to Mexico City? Let me know..
The largest and richest City South of the Border..

_Richard_ 04-20-2007 12:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 12277605)
Canada isn't a real country in the first place.

Phoenix
Location: Toronto
considering the topic of the thread, i think your post is rather funny :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

ADL Colin 04-20-2007 01:17 PM
As far as the Roman Empire, the eastern half of the empire lasted until about the 15th century as the Byzantine Empire. Rome had been a Republic for 450 years or so before becoming an empire. This is a total span of almost 2000 years. So I don't think the observation that "all empires eventually come to an end" is very enlightening other than to point out just that. This is without even getting into the debate as to what an empire is and whether the US is one.

Here's my stab at it:
50-100 more years as #1 world power.
300 more years as a Republic

seeric 04-20-2007 01:33 PM
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North Korea http://www.siemens-maintenance.co.uk...n%20button.JPG

Russia http://www.siemens-maintenance.co.uk...n%20button.JPG

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action 1 will cause equal and opposite chain reaction. :( bye bye cruel world.

headless ghost 04-20-2007 01:42 PM
all the way to the end
I am positive

just like when an engine quits in a plane
so how long will this one lone engine last
all the way to the seen of the crash

he-fox 04-20-2007 01:46 PM
US will last until they will merge with EU and form some kind of North Atlantic Union. Give it 50-100 years.

edit: in fact it will last after that, too, as values and people. Just in a superior governmental form.

Danny_C 04-20-2007 01:51 PM
The sole world power will soon be the WTO.

Morgan Sommer 04-20-2007 02:03 PM
Collapse of Empire
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 12277676)
That's a pretty apt analogy, actually. The Roman Empire collapsed on it's self from internal problems and plunged the World in to the Dark Ages. Many even blame the introduction of Christianity for the decline of the Empire.

Many economies are either indirectly or directly linked to the US economy. A complete failure of the US would have devestating affects World wide.
Aside from debt, military disorganization, and chronic civil war the roman empire could have lasted another several hundred years. The thing that knocked it on its ass and allowed the neighboring cultures (barbarians) to take of was massive depopulation due to the first major outbreak of bubonic plague in europe, asia minor, and north africa. In some roman provinces 1/3 to 1/2 of the population died. The emperor of the eastern empire almost died.

so that being said, yeah we have lots of screwy economic and political issues to deal with, and packs of angry humans nipping at our heels, but I think the institutions here are strong enough to withstand almost anything except a series of severe natural disasters or a new pandemic.

:winkwink:

Morgan Sommer 04-20-2007 02:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ADL Colin (Post 12287015)
As far as the Roman Empire, the eastern half of the empire lasted until about the 15th century as the Byzantine Empire. Rome had been a Republic for 450 years or so before becoming an empire. This is a total span of almost 2000 years. So I don't think the observation that "all empires eventually come to an end" is very enlightening other than to point out just that. This is without even getting into the debate as to what an empire is and whether the US is one.

Here's my stab at it:
50-100 more years as #1 world power.
300 more years as a Republic
Soo right. The Byzantine emperor Justinian who built Haiga Sophia is the one who almost died of plague. But the greatest architectural achievement of his age was built while the western empire was falling apart and for another 1200 years the empire flourished. But the old britain to arabia empire was gone. So what that means is a culture can survive a very long time regardless of borders shifting and the locus of power.

2012 04-20-2007 04:07 PM
And we are the most intelligent species on the planet. The dinosaurs didn't work out. Then us ... I wonder what will be next after we off ourselves?

scottybuzz 04-20-2007 04:19 PM
Im sure it will happen but it probably will happen way after everyone here on gfy is dead.

KustomKowgurl 04-20-2007 04:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 12277564)
What I mean by that is.....

History repeats itself and "World Power" has been known to shift time and time again.
I will honestly be surprised if the U.S. remains in tact long enough to see another President.....And I have predictions on how that could play out as well.
Your thoughts?
Hmmm...definitely an interesting theory. We probably won't be "the most powerful nation in the world" forever...but I don't think we'll be out of the running before we get a new president. I think it's a gradual process, it'll take a bit longer than that.

Hot Mama Janet 04-20-2007 04:31 PM
The United States of America will out last any other country that is not a super Biblical power!

Let me ask you somethin?

What is your countries biblical animal?

I know there are a few and mine is the "Eagle" the bald eagle as a matter of fact and it is on a vicious comeback as a species..

If your country has a biblical animal then great if not oh well sucks to be you.

seven 04-20-2007 04:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 12277589)
come on guys..long live usa...lets invade iran and syria...take their oil and shit...its all good man.
then we can invade canada and take their water and electric plants

those canadians are lucky to be next to us anyway
absolutely :thumbsup :thumbsup

seven 04-20-2007 04:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by YanksAngel (Post 12279997)
bla.. bla.. bla..
You are just a terrorist sympathizer that's all :2 cents:

Where's Splum?

Hot Mama Janet 04-20-2007 04:53 PM
Im from the U.S.A. and as long as I can remember Canada was not even a county it nothing more than a region,a district,a place of refuge for draft evaders,thats it...

They have no military and even less government its sad that they are next to U.S. we should just let them suffocate in their own self pitty.

seven 04-20-2007 04:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by YanksAngel (Post 12280424)
My point is that even if it were sarcasm and i figured it was, it was blahblah and more blah
You are just a liberal pussy terrorist sympathizer.

Gawd! I miss Splum. Where r u bud?

seven 04-20-2007 05:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Mama Janet (Post 12288039)
Im from the U.S.A. and as long as I can remember Canada was not even a county it nothing more than a region,a district,a place of refuge for draft evaders,thats it...

They have no military and even less government its sad that they are next to U.S. we should just let them suffocate in their own self pitty.
Go Mama! We don't care that Canada ranks one of the top countries for living and shit in the world, we don't care if they work as peace keepers around the world, we don't care they won their independence without a single drop of blood, we don't care Canada is the number 1 supplier for oil to the USA. We say Canada exists cos we let them, fuck with us and we invade and take your oil in the name of liberation too :1orglaugh

69pornlinks 04-20-2007 06:11 PM
i give it 10 years top...the dollar is about to bottom out...if we're here in 15 years i will be shocked....real shit

Splum 04-20-2007 06:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 69pornlinks (Post 12288359)
i give it 10 years top...the dollar is about to bottom out...if we're here in 15 years i will be shocked....real shit
So kill yourself now, might as well! PLEASE! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

jesse_adultdatingdollars 04-20-2007 08:04 PM
Are you kidding? LOL Get over it people, America will be in power for a VERY long time to come.

Webby 04-20-2007 08:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 69pornlinks (Post 12288359)
i give it 10 years top...the dollar is about to bottom out...if we're here in 15 years i will be shocked....real shit
Don't think it's that bad.... tho agree in 10 years it will be a different scenario and the dollar on currency markets will be a lot lower.

wmbrett 04-20-2007 08:22 PM
It's really hard to say now. I do know that most Americans have become lazy, and not really wanting to work--or making excuses to miss work. I think that it could probably be in the next 20 years. Who knows. I do know this, I've seen a big change in everything over the past 10 years.

JaneB 04-21-2007 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by jesse_adultdatingdollars (Post 12288705)
Are you kidding? LOL Get over it people, America will be in power for a VERY long time to come.
Yes I have to agree. The US is not going anywhere. We have to learn from our mistakes and move on. Yes we have made enemies, but we have more friends then enemies. The only way we will go out is if we take out a lot of other countries with us. I believe the person that posted all the pressing of the red buttons is right. That is something I hope it nevers comes down to.

FYI Most Americans are not lazy. Most work their ass off, so I am not sure where that came from.

jcj 04-21-2007 05:15 AM
In my opinion america will stay its power for a longer time, but not forever!!!!!

YanksAngel 04-24-2007 10:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Splum (Post 12285885)
I find your choice of program name EXTREMELY OFFENSIVE. When are you going to open NiggaCash? Or perhaps GookCash? Fuck off you fucking anti-American fuck.

I do enjoy when people open their mouths and insert their ass. Yanks Angel works for Yankscash. Yanks cash is the American Dream. We are known as Yankees in England. Americans are Yankees and you do yank don't you? haha.. oh that was funny. Not the sharpest tool in the shed now are you?

Besides I think the other name ideas have already been taken!


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