Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 12274040)

we took zombiegirl from fettishpaysme.com she played on our team of 4 or 5 and we played against I think that day was like 34 so 34 people vs us we set it up she knocked em down... great day I wanna say she had over 25 kills and didn't get shot once....

Originally Posted by Pornopat (Post 12275406)

That is an interesting last statement. The surprise that she did not even get shot once.
You realise that real life is not a game of paintball and getting shot only once often means death?
Die? Children growing up without a father or mother?
There is no "Game over, insert coin to continue".
BANG means you are dead. The end.

Originally Posted by boneprone (Post 12273762)

Sorry if I come off a racist with the term negro.

But stats show in the case of stealing guns, or robbing, they are typical negro in nature.

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 12275514)

would you have sat by, ran, or done something?

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 12275514)

this is true... sometimes you only get shot once in real life... that is a fact..

I have been in both real life and paintball and I would rank paintball the closest thing to the real thing.. because you are still getting SHOT AT... that being said you wipe off and think to yourself what you did wrong and try to correct that next time... this thread is about everyone standing by...

let me ask you personally

would you have sat by, ran, or done something?

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 12274499)

nah bro no offence taken at all thats what it is a debate on a message board... some people like dirty franck take it way to personal and start slandering off subject...

your right you have no idea what your walking in on... but your certian of one thing... shots are being fired and chaos is going on... the cellphone video you can hear the sounds of terror.. which unless youve heard it first hand... it's kind of skin raising to hear grown men scream at the top of the lungs. so as a officer of the law who is sworn to protect and serve and to uphold the law they in my eyes stood by.... I am a citizen, I am a very very well trained citizen but a citizen none the less but I would have felt it my human obligation to help people out because I am trained... is it possiable that you would have walked in on an ambush of 6 kids yes... is the probaility rate of the 6 kids killing your team all at one time very rare... then you get into tactical operations then.. how to clear a house, dorm, .. room for that matter.... there are proper ways and bad ways..... I agree with you 100% they did not know nothing what was going on inside but you ahve to enter to save lives... kind of like the WTC firemen they didn't know it was a terror attack they entered anyways.. those are heros to me... they tried to save human beings lives.... all the cops there did was stand by as more innocent students trying to make their way in life were shamlessly gunned down by some lunitic gun weilding kid with a death wish... at that point your not trying to take a suspect into custody your trying to stop the threat.. for a lack of better words.. they pulled a john kerry during a time of battle Im glad none of those cops are in a foxhole with me cause they'd prolly shoot me in the back from being so scared..... anyone I have spoken with who is also trained were all standing here saying what the fuck were the cops doing... now we havent read the full report and I doubt it will be public anytime soon... so we really don't know.. I know what I saw with my eyes on video.. cops cowering behind a tree shaking in their little boots...

lets go back some years when to idiots help off the entire LAPD with only 2 guns..... did we not learn our lesson then to hit em hard and fast? why do you think they held off the good guys? becuase they were hitting hard fast and strong.. against an entire police dept... that was say 2 vs 200 so your telling me that an entire classroom can't hit em hard? cops can't hit em hard? thats what happends.. anyone ever heard the expression "hesitation will kill you".. well thats what happend.. they hesitated to enter and people got kiled because of it.. it never should have happend that way.... cops enter overwhealm get into a little gunfight, hopefully stop and elimnate the threat.. as far as I see it there is no other option.. he was on a rampage you have to stop the threat and you may have to rist your life in doing so bottom line....

Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom (Post 12278371)

LOL, ok no more debate I figured out why this guy made this thread! He is one of those typical online tough guys. He makes statements like this online because it makes his nuts feel bigger.

Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom (Post 12278371)

LOL, ok no more debate I figured out why this guy made this thread! He is one of those typical online tough guys. He makes statements like this online because it makes his nuts feel bigger.

First you come in here and make an absurd statement that only someone living in the fantasy of the online world would make, regarding stopping an armed killer who opens fire without notice, THEN, you challange me to come to your house! LOL

First of all this is GFY, not I KIll PEOPLE FORUMS, or some shit like that. Obviously no one here is coming to your house to shoot you and you know it. I doubt you would have made the same statement on a forum where the members are ,say, escaped convicts. Why do I doubt it? Because you are an internet tough guy. You talk shit when you know you're safe.

Secondly, sure I close my eyes and picture myself in that school running out of my class and jumping the armed guy, and having the ability to help my classmates. Hell even take a bullet for the hot girl in class. And then she falls in love with me. But I know, it's a fucking fantasy! I would never have the audacity to say those poor student victims were pussies!

Finally, when you said you had training, I was picturing an ex marine or something like that. You went to your neighborhood self defense class?? LOL I'm not coming to your house, I have better things to do, I don't know about you. But I DO think that the next time someone who reads this thread sees you at a convention, they should just reach out and punch you in the head one time for every student who was a victim here, that you so boldly attack in this thread.

Normally I don't respond to threads like this, nor do I get so heated, but when someone is stupid enough to verbally attack a dead child who was the victim of a brutal crime, I have to say something, no matter how delusional the person making the statements may actually be.

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 12273705)

First of all.. what a shitty day... there was way to many casulties at this campus and there is NO excuse as to why a gunman was able to get off that many rounds without being stopped.. I call the men and women in the classrooms pussies for not doing ANYTHING... first of all he had a 9mm and a 22 which mean unless he was doing all headshots they were not one shot one kill.. he DID have to reload.. all prime times to advance on insurgents... I hope everybody who had the "flight" instinct kick in has to live with the fact they stood idly by while classmates were shot to death... from what I have read doctors are saying that not a single vic came in with no less than 3 shots... lets do the math... 3x50 = 150 150 rds? has anyone confirmed the amount of ammo shot?

bottom line is as humans you haved to react to situations like that and running away is not the way to react... all you fucking tree huggers I hope you feel somewhat at fault as well.. because with you and your laws that you try to pass.... there MUST be more trained citizens in our community so situations like this will be stopped as soon as they start...

I was watching video of the cops hiding behind a tree while gunfire is going off inside a dorm? those cops should be fired... yeah I said it FIRED... those shots were no where near the officers hiding behind a tree...


I think it's about time we stop being a fucking PC country and start getting with reality.. criminals have no certian look, no certian dimnear about them... anyone could be a criminal thats why we NEED more trained ARMED citizens to stop threats like this....

lets look at dynamics of a bullet for a sec... by sound alone every officer there shuold have known the gun he was using... if you can;t tell the difference between a 9mm-.40-.45-10mm, 7.62.39 or 7.62x54 every round has a unique sound to it.... I can close my eyes and tell you what cal your shooting... can I name the type of bullet.. no thats impossiable.. but audible reconizition is what all of us who were trained use... you ask any vet and they will sound off at the sound of an AK 7.62x39 because of how distinct it is... cops SHOULD be the same way... so as an officer arriving at that scene you hear gunshots.. you split sec ID those shots and where there comming from.... you hear handgun you know what the lethal range of a handgun is compaired to a long gun you also know what a round will penetrate and what it will not penetrate.. now you may have slight varitations between penetration on a FMJ as opposed to a HP round but the fact still remains that the velocity is around the same on each cal... you may have a varation between the amount of powder used in the round hence the +p+ rounds they are what we call "hott" rounds but the fact still remains that every officer that arrived on that scene knew it wa a handgun and should have breached way before they did... if you can;t hit them they can't hit you is a motto we used to always use.... I think the police force and the school should be sued.. as well as the kids in the classrooms who stood idly by....

Disarming a weapon from a human being is not the hardest thing to do with training... if this guy got away with killing 32 schoolmates wounding over 25 and he was considered "un_trained" now imiagne if there were onle 1 trained person in that room.. or 2 for that matter.. how fast would a situation like this have been stopped?


so next time you vote hippies make sure you vote for teachers to have guns in the classroom and make sure you vote for more leaniant laws on obtaining a CCW

Originally Posted by Webby (Post 12278806)

Sorry DD - but you are full of bullshit and unqualified to offer any opinion.

You were not there and relying on CNN to provide "evidence". It is the job of LE to take this situation, get it under control and then do an investigation and examine possible methods for improvement all round - it's not your concern nor are you qualified to give any opinion. Anything you say, is simply your opinion - read, more GFY irrelevant chat.

PS Also note, it is your clients who are the next potential killers - you have no concept of their future mental stability, you train them and they are an enhanced potential threat to both law enforcement and the public.

PPS Least I assume you train them from the dialog *lol*

Originally Posted by Wanton (Post 12280299)

police aren't trained to advance to gunfire like the military . . the police union would have the 'politicians' ass if they ever tried to put the cops in 'harms way' . and the cops would cry like babies . .

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 12280319)

hahah you got a point dood.... that goes along the lines of me saying all police forces are now reactive rather than proactive....


I dunno man I just feel so bad for the kids there.... and the cops did't do a gat damn thing.... that basicly stood by while the fire burned itself out....

Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom (Post 12280707)

Danza, I like how you slowly try to move your blame to the police when your initial statement did not reflect the police but the ACTUAL STUDENTS involved. Remember you called the STUDENTS pussies? And then the whole rant about how students should go to self defense classes and carry guns, etc. Don't try to change what you said now because everyone is seeing what a dumbass you are. Judging from the way you write, run on sentences, misspelled words, etc., you are not that bright so I want to give you a suggestion. Just stop posting. You look bad.

This is nothing personal I have against you, obviously I don't know you. You simply tried to open up a debate I suppose, not sure what you tried to do. When you start calling dead kids pussies though and their classmates, who even though they may not have been hit directly, they were still greatly affected by this crime, you need to rethink your life. Your statement shows alot about the kind of person you are.

Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom (Post 12280707)

Danza, I like how you slowly try to move your blame to the police when your initial statement did not reflect the police but the ACTUAL STUDENTS involved. Remember you called the STUDENTS pussies? And then the whole rant about how students should go to self defense classes and carry guns, etc. Don't try to change what you said now because everyone is seeing what a dumbass you are. Judging from the way you write, run on sentences, misspelled words, etc., you are not that bright so I want to give you a suggestion. Just stop posting. You look bad.

This is nothing personal I have against you, obviously I don't know you. You simply tried to open up a debate I suppose, not sure what you tried to do. When you start calling dead kids pussies though and their classmates, who even though they may not have been hit directly, they were still greatly affected by this crime, you need to rethink your life. Your statement shows alot about the kind of person you are.

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 12274040)

honestly it's a shitty situation I play paintball every sat and we outnumber ourselvs on pourpouse we play like 4 on 50 and win every time.. of course all of us are frm special forces, and our team commander is a 22 year navy seal and now trains the LA swat team so I mean we all have training thast why we do drills like that and win... these cops should have been trained in this type of situation... shit happends...

kind of off subject but I live in a 2 story house yadda yadda anyways my point is.. I acutually do Fire drills with my family.. yes wife and 2 kids to where we will bail out the 2nd story window we do it over and over again it becomes 2nd nature... you never know when the shit is going down.. weather it be fire, shooting, carbon mnoxide, you never know in this world what the danger will be you have to be ready.. last thing I want to do during a fire is be wondering how I am going to get my wife and kids out.. so we know.. we have trained in everyroom in the house because you don't knw when a fire is going to start...


same with gunfights... you want to turn things from actions to reactions.. it takes training... like you said when you popped your head out from behind the bunker you went into a panic because the rest of the game nothing but pop pop pop pop pop.... well I been playing paintball 15 years I acutually calm down when I am under fire.... same with live fire... you have to calm down, take cover, then return fire,,,, with adrenal glands going nutts you may friendly fire... the most common thing with citizens shooting their weapons is they always dump the whole mag... 90% of all citizen involved shooting they just kept firing and firing even if they were missing.. because mentally they feel safter returning fire... the thing is you have to have a target... I reccomend everyone play paintball if they own guns... and if you own guns please train with it... now corvette...
I was just in AZ last month playing in a paintball tourney when you wanna go play... I'll have you on the winning team with the most amount of kills... we took zombiegirl from fettishpaysme.com she played on our team of 4 or 5 and we played against I think that day was like 34 so 34 people vs us we set it up she knocked em down... great day I wanna say she had over 25 kills and didn't get shot once....

Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom (Post 12280707)

Danza, I like how you slowly try to move your blame to the police when your initial statement did not reflect the police but the ACTUAL STUDENTS involved. Remember you called the STUDENTS pussies? And then the whole rant about how students should go to self defense classes and carry guns, etc. Don't try to change what you said now because everyone is seeing what a dumbass you are. Judging from the way you write, run on sentences, misspelled words, etc., you are not that bright so I want to give you a suggestion. Just stop posting. You look bad.

This is nothing personal I have against you, obviously I don't know you. You simply tried to open up a debate I suppose, not sure what you tried to do. When you start calling dead kids pussies though and their classmates, who even though they may not have been hit directly, they were still greatly affected by this crime, you need to rethink your life. Your statement shows alot about the kind of person you are.

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 12281578)

Such a scary thought that in the US mentally unstable people like Danza idiot can and are allowed to buy guns. You know something is majorly wrong in that country when things like that are possible.

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12281565)

Maja rocks in whatever she does. :thumbsup

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12281589)

Anyone have the video of the guy getting beat up while in line at the pizza place? This is exactly what Danza is pointing out. People who arent ready to take some risk to help their fellow man. I find it near impossible to believe that out of 50 some people shot not one of them was able to get close to this and take him out. He wasnt a big guy. He had 2 guns that he obviously had to reload multible times. People were just complacent to wait for someone to save them. Its sad really the whole thing.

Originally Posted by QuaShe (Post 12281681)

What a fucking joke you are. geez.

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12281703)

So you are saying in that situation you would hide behind a tree, or duck into a supply closet or something and wait it out, while you knew people were getting shot and killed in mass?

Originally Posted by QuaShe (Post 12281773)

The joke in this thread is Danza bragging about how trained he is blablabla. No body can say for sure how they react in a total chaos situation like this.

What I would do you ask? I simply can not tell what I would do, its so easy to say you woudl attack the guy or whatever but until you are in a situation like this you will never know and can not know.

:2 cents:

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 12281893)

my training or no training you can't stand by... and I belive I have said that many many times.. that I am trained yes... would I have stopped him I like to think so but you never know dood... I could tackle him and still end up shot but I would have TRIED and that I know for a fact... want to question that your an idiot... this has nothing to do with MY training per say thast neither here nor there.. this has to do with the lack of training on the police and the lack of action on the students who stood there frozen in fear while there good friends are getting killed? from what I am seeing on all the news stations with there little 3d diagrams of how the halls were and his route through there.. there were 3 different times that I am looking at now to where stevie fucking wonder would have seen a great ambush opportunity to stop the guy... oh but wait... you can't see that when your a coward... you know in the military you can get in a lot of trouble for being a coward.... grab some fucking balls and stop the guy... at least try.. TRY... remember the ladder of achivement.. the bottom is I wont the top is I did... fuck man at least get in the middle and get a I try... fuck man hiding is being a coward I don't care what anyone says.. in my eyes you don't hide.... no matter what anyone has ever said about me on this board I still go to shows right? do I run and hide at the shows? I am not a coward that I know for a fact.... those students were pussy ass tree huggin cowards as were the police who were FOS thats (first on scene) for those who arent following....