no shit... what clued you in on this

too bad the crazy virginia student wasn't a gfy member... maybe the feds could've stop him then...

You gone quiet for a moment DaddyHalBucks? :winkwink: Gotta be studying law again...

So can you expound on : -

(a) Which nations can you fuck kids because it is legal.

(b) Produce any legislation to support your claims that "For the purposes herein, "with the US" and "in the US" are the same thing." I know you are quoting law here - just wondering which law :1orglaugh

(c) What country laws you are complying with when dealing with these countries on the net? After all, it's common courtesy to comply with the laws of the countries you are taking money from? No? :winkwink:

Federal agent's for sure browse, read, and even quote people from GFY and other Forums around the Internet.

I was quoted in a FTC case in 2005 and the comment was made here on GFY.

A. None, as far as I know. And that's a good thing. The point I was making is that you don't need to be physically in a jurisdiction to be subject to its law.

B. I was quoting an attorney at the forum. I can't give you statute and section, but neither did he at the seminar. I suggest you get a real legal opinion if you doubt my retelling of the story.

C. The point is not me personally, but in general, of course, I am subject to all applicable laws just like anyone else.

Why some people think federal agents wouldn't read here is beyond me. Of course, they do. It's a wealth of info for them as well as for us.

Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if some well known nicks were agents.

When are you going to quit giving legal advice?? :winkwink:

So basically you are saying there are no laws which allow fucking children.

Unless anyone operates a corp or some form of business, or actually resides in whatever country - they are not obliged to pay any attention to the laws of any other country. There is only one set of laws which apply - those of the country in which you reside - no other.

(And.. to stop the side deviations and cherry-picking... there are international agreements covering certain laws and these many be recognized by a group of countries and, in that case, you are subject to those laws. Further... those laws quoted as the basis of international agreements/treaties must be actual laws in the participating country.)


Quotes from an attorney at a forum are not valid - talk is cheap.

Agree.. a legal opinion is warranted and I have more than enough of them to have a clue - thanks. You talk shit.

You are? That's awesome that you are in compliance with the countries you deal with and subject to their laws - pity you have no clue what these laws are :1orglaugh

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TGIANA

... i am not american :thumbsup

Why do you presume I do business in many foreign jurisdictions? How do you know where my customers are located? How do you know I host any sexually explicit content at all?

Keep on doin what you are doin then.

(But, if you are that blatantly stupid and/ or defiant, don't expect me to give to your legal defense fund).

:helpme

Do I give a shit where your customers are? The issue was raised by you and where you ultimately claimed you were subject to the laws of other countries and were in compliance with their laws... DUH???

Obviously if you operate a business on the net - you will be trading internationally. Do you operate a biz or not? You sure stuff enough referral links in your posts :winkwink:

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

*splutter* sheesh.. you are so *very* dumb

Thanks, but I don't need your defense fund - got plenty lawyers around and ironically one is from the US - but he's got more sense than you.

They are live human beings as all the other surfers who visit GFY in search of free porn. So there is nothing unnatural in this...

So somebody told you something but you are unable to provide any specifics. It sounds like you do not have 'an understanding'.

You'll excuse me if I don't take what you have to say seriously. :1orglaugh

International Public law, every convention and every protocol is a MUST for every country in the world, or else there will be sanctions against the country who didn't respect the conventions and the protocoles!So the goverment assures that those conv. and protocoles are being respected, by accepting them as their own law...So hard to explain in english:1orglaugh Webby I can see you know these things:thumbsup

Good youll need them.

Hehe.. no - oddly I don't need them - I don't operated under your laws - you need em more than me lad :pimp

Funny... just wandered downstairs for a coffee (they make real coffee there with beans!!) with the legal mob and even wasted .. gotta be three minutes laughing over the stupidity of idiots on the net - pleased to say you are included in that elite Splum :winkwink:

Finally something we can agree upon. :thumbsup

hehe.. damn... you misunderstood yet again :winkwink:

Tho.. with some it takes time to sink in :)

If we are talking about porn laws, porn laws may not relate to someone who does not host porn. Can you understand that?

Aww shit another 3 page thread by the ole splumster, bow down bitches

More hypotheticals DH?? :winkwink:

Never mentioned porn laws or hypothetical stuff about hosting - did you?? :1orglaugh

Tho we did get an explanation about child offenses - which could not hold up

And also how you were liable for the laws of other countries....

If we are talking about porn laws, and I don't host porn, kindly explain how those laws apply..

Do you have trouble telling hypothetical from real?

Did I even refer to what you are hosting??? When was that??

You may have forgotten, but you kindly volunteered to operate under the laws of other countries and (wrongly again) - assumed "foreign webmasters" were bound by the laws of the US? You changing this yet again?

Some of these foreign webmasters are tough nuts.

They love our American dollars, but they hate our leaders and they hate our laws, and sometimes they just seem to hate hate hate..

No.. silly question.

I prefer reality thanks :thumbsup

Why are you splitting hairs? Are you that far backed into the corner?

A webmaster is person who hosts porn, right?

You got an opinion on "foreign webmasters' next?? :winkwink:

No.. "we" don't love your dollars - they are shit (in case you never noticed)...

Hate your laws? Hate your country? Hate your leaders? They do?? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

State clearly what the fuck you are talking about.

You entered this thread with a load of bullshit about international law. Now you appear to be talking about hosting - which is it??

Webby has a small pee pee, I know because BoyAlley told me.

This your next fetish Splum? You really need to meet up with DaddyH and share experiences - you'd make a handsome couple :1orglaugh :thumbsup

Well if the laws say what has to be done when one is hosting sexually explicit material, and the particular fact pattern is where one is not hosting sexually explicit material --then it's pretty clear to me that hosting plays a critical role.

Do you understand the difference between hosting sexually explicit content and merely linking to it? Do you understand the difference between telling your shop customers to go buy Playboy next door at your friend's shop, versus stocking it on your own shelves?

No we wouldn't. Splum is too masculine for me. I prefer the twink type.

OK.. Gonna try and be serious DH - tho it may be hard to keep a straight face - it's GFY :winkwink:

OK.. we are talking about hosting sexually explicit material??

What laws are you talking about?? US? If so, sure, there are laws covering both these aspects.


Yes thanks, - understand perfectly on "linking" and otherwise. Those laws do not apply to me or webmasters outside the US (but excluding the usual CP related linkage which is not normally associated with the "adult industry").

Sorry.. I don't sell Playboy nor do I stock it :winkwink:

What exactly is your point DH?? Skip the preliminary bullshit - I've been in this biz longer more days than you ever had breakfasts - cut to the point please.

hehe.. na.. Splum has nice frilly panties DH - the only problem is he gets them in a twist fairly often and this cuts off the blood supply to his braincell :winkwink:

I made my point early on. Re-read if necessary. Sorry for failing to give you chapter and verse.

More recently, I have just been responding to you blowing smoke up my ass.

Ah.. basically there is no point? Okkkkay!

First you claim the world is obliged to operate under US laws.

Then you moan US citizens can be prosecuted in the US for offenses against children while on foreign soil, where, according to you, it is legal to fuck children.

Then you try to associate the gaming industry with your perceptions of international law, when in fact the US is currently in violation of international treaties (WTO)

Then you introduce some vague chat about "hosting", "linkage" and "sexually explicit" content - which has little to do with international law, child offenses, gaming ad nausea.

DH... Can you get your brain in gear before offering "opinions" - and try really hard to have a clue of the subject matter before placing your fingers to a keyboard?

Many thanks! :thumbsup

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