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Wait wheres Lady Mischief to defend Lars? lolComment
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Lars doesn't give fuck it makes him money, until he gets boycotted by tons of webmasters or sued by another company he will let any scumbag promote his company, Fuck I would love Lars to give me the job of finding all these sites and shutting down there accounts,Comment
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homegrown is not exactly the type of company I would want to mess with, isn't FarL the type of guy that will go after a company just to prove a point? LOLComment
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ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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what they have 200 employees? why not make one of them in charge of chasing down content theftSince 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence.
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shit ill be in charge of closing down torrent sites for them for fucking peanuts just so i know it IS being taken care of ;-/
take me up on it lars
if you dont want to pay ill do it for FREE on the weekendsComment
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ya no kidding, most people would do it for freeSince 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence.
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Incorrect.
You can tell by all the places that list AFF / Cams that Lars has plenty of traffic. Dealing with Zango was just the tip of a very putrid iceberg. If you run a scam site, if you run a toolbar install site, if you run a copyright violation site, you are most likely to have AFF and Adbrite all over your site, with sexsearch seeming to more and more often before the backup sponsor of choice.
All the honest webmasters in the world could drop AFF, and they would only need to add a couple more of these scum sites to make it up. AFF is the first sponsor to truly have gone beyond the standard affiliate system, because most of their affiliates are no longer important to them.Comment
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Don't be a retard, Tony. If you go back and read what I wrote in the last thread you jumped on me in, I said that I can understand why Lars did what he did, and many other intelligent businesspeople in his position probably would have come to the same conclusion at the time. Doesn't mean I agree with him or defend him. I can like Lars personally and not agree with his business decisions. Everyone is trying to figure out their own ways of battling Zango-esque programs, most are going to make wrong turns or hit roadblocks along the road. Now kindly piss off. Understanding motive does not equal agreement.Last edited by LadyMischief; 04-14-2007, 09:59 PM.Comment
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Whomever's seeding this one video of ours that I found with a bookmark file, I'm very curious where that goes.Free agentComment
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Interesting, Please teach me this trick.
So Lars made a business decission to help fund sites that are stealing your companies content. He knows it is happening and does not care at all if you are losing money to sites like this. All he cares about is that he makes money from the stolen content sites. It is his business decission. Nothing personal, so you still like this person ?
He is helping to support theift either through the use of zango or by helping to fund these sites that steal from you, but that is ok, that is just business. He is still a good guy ?
I don't understand you people.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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good point His actions hurts the company she works for but she tells me to piss off.Thats beautiful really it is lolComment
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Unlike the keyboard warriors though, I'll actually take it to the source to deal with instead of hoping that pissing and moaning on a message board will fix it. Those who rely on message boards to conduct their business don't keep a business for long. I'm pretty confident we'll get this situation figured out, and if we don't, things will be dealt with from there. I personally, however, am not big on personal vendettas, and you and Will are like a couple of ambulence chasers these days. I used to like and even respect a lot of what you had to say, but it's been lost in all the other crap lately just like with Will.Comment
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I told you to piss off because you made silly assumptions about me. I don't particularly care what you think, and this situation sucks, but until you know me well enough to interpret my thoughts I'd be perfectly happy for you to keep your ASSumptions to yourself. ASSUMING that nothing is being done about this is REALLY retarded.Comment
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ok whatever, that has nothing to do with anything. The point we both are making is how can you like someone personally who could very possibly make you unemployed and affect YOUR income because of their shaddy business practices.
I don't care if we talking on a messagboard or at a party talking over free drinks, the point is still the same. How can people not hold someone's business practices against them when their business practices are unethical and border line illegal and also damage your business. I have said this before and no one has replied but you can't get any more "personal" when you do something to affect my income. So all these people saying, " it's just business ", I think that is bullshit, that PERSON running the business made the decission, and that decission is attacking my income,which is very personal to me. Can't get anymore personal then that.
So like I said, can you teach me that trick, but please hurry I have an ambulance to chase so i have to leave soon.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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This is going to leave me on the unemployment line? Give me a break Will. This crap is just that, crap, it hurts everyone's bottom lines, but I'm hardly going to run out and file for EI over it. I'm pretty confident things will get dealt with in a businesslike manner, and if they aren't, things are dealt with on another level (Homegrown is more than capable of defending it's legal interests thanks but your concern is touching). You guys are assuming a lot without knowing all the details.. you assume that the fact I don't try to lynch Lars in person every time I see him consummates to me being public enemy #1, but get real. There's always more to the picture than what you see or assume, and I have told people over there exactly how I feel about Zango. I also know, however, that not everyone is going to change their business because I don't agree with how they go about things. People have to make decisions based on what they feel is best... and Lars may be a public figure for AFF, but it doesn't mean he's the ONLY guy making decisions or making things happen, he's not a solo act you know. Business has a way of balancing itself out and we've already seen AFF drop the Zango model, and who knows what the next step in the progression is, maybe they will find a way to do one better and combat the problem?
Most companies make bad decisions at one point or another in their history, and believe me the companies you rep are no sterling examples of perfection. They along with many other older companies have made their blunders and paid for their mistakes as they go along their way. I choose to believe that given time people/companies/business use their mistakes to improve themselves, and if they don't they always end up getting what they deserve in the end. The book on the industry is still being written and each major issue that comes along is a catalyst for change. Do you think anyone would have even realized the depth of the problem if AFF hadn't been the harbringer of the situation? Out of all bad there can be good as long as you are willing to find it. I'm not running out to promote AFF RIGHT NOW, but I'm not going to take a hit man with me to shows in case I see Lars or Irish Pimp, either. :P There's a happy medium in there that's called REALITY, although you haven't been there for a long time. Check your mail, there's a postcard, reality misses you and it wants you to come visit again sometime soon.Comment
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Legendary Liar and Sagi the troll never comment on this issue, they're busy planning the next scam they can try.
You people must remember they admit that they RIP you off and steal your money and don't care as long as it benifits them.
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Ha, ha , ha AFF will rip your ass tomorrow if they find it naked!
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Interesting thread
I am new here and find this info interesting. I have used AFF for several years and I find that my return is dropping fast.
In the last 28 days my traffic has doubled, but I found that 60% approx. of those days, I didn't receive any commission. This is the first month in two years, I haven't received a daily commission.
Just wondering if this has anything to do with all this self serving promotion by AFF on spyware sites, etc.Comment
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Boy you lost respect and dont like me anymore because I dont agree with your backing a scumbag that fucks our industry over.Maybe you dont care as much because your a employee not a owner. We want others to be aware of the fucking thats going on? Thats wrong please explain? You get real nasty quick and turn on people quick, never called you a name. Scary stuff.Comment
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be nice to my hubby! lolComment
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I lost respect for you because as many times as I've explained the situation to you, you still always seem to see things the way you want to, instead of what I said. Selective reading. I'm done with you because I really don't have time to waste on explaining things to you if you can't figure them out for yourself
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Also you attack me and Will,when Jact started this thread. Your a piece of work lady. Thats what I get for being nice to someone lesson learned thank you.Comment
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Many times you explained to me? You have me mistaken for someone else. I dont have selective reading, I fully understand what you wrote and it makes no fucking sense.Im done.I lost respect for you because as many times as I've explained the situation to you, you still always seem to see things the way you want to, instead of what I said. Selective reading. I'm done with you because I really don't have time to waste on explaining things to you if you can't figure them out for yourselfComment
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I don't get the constant references to "business" from you and others with similar views. Traffic hijacking has nothing to do with legitimate competition and it is obtuse to imply otherwise, simply because the law always takes a while to catch up with technology and hasn't done so yet in this case.
Or is that someone who writes out a check to Zango (or to an affiliate who pays Zango) is somehow not stealing traffic as surely as if he wrote the code himself and planted it directly onto your server?
By extension I don't get the talk about friendship, liking etc either. Unless you are kidding yourself that traffic hijacking isn't really theft, how naive (at best) do you have to be to rationalize theft away according to the way it is done and the amount involved? Simple question: what kind of "friend" would steal from you?
I can respect the heck out of someone who beats me fair and square. And if I respect someone, there is a pretty good chance I might like him/her too. But respect or like someone who clearly thinks I'm just another mug to be suckered? What kind of of fool would that make me?Comment
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And you too are making the insane assumption that I am all for Zango or anything? We don't do business with AFF, Homegrown does not use/allow/promote Zango. Why is it that you folks assume because I don't jump on a bandwagon and lynch Lars that I'm all behind everything he does and says and hanging on every word? Cripes jayeff I figured at least YOU would be smarter than that. Lars hasn't treated me anything other than respectfully in person, he's actually helped me a few times personally, I like him a lot. Does that mean that I think his company did the right thing? HELL NO. Please, get your stories straight in your effort to be right. I AGREE WITH YOU PEOPLE ALREADY, being wrong doesn't make Lars a bad person though.
And if you want to see how strongly I think Zango is bad, and all forms of adware and spyware are bad, keep your eyes peeled. You post in the same forums I do, why not go back and read a few key threads, or better yet, hit me up on icq. 3522039.Comment
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this shit will never endSince 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence.
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damn lady you are wacked in the head. You are all over the place, I don;t even know where you getting half this shit from you talking about. thats about all i care to say to you any more. I could reply back with something intelligent but it would be a waste of time.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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I agree with LadyMischief. Being a bro and getting free Miller Lites is way more important than having my websites whored out for free to anyone with an internet connection.Comment
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It's ok to be friends with someone if the business they own steals from you. BUt it is not ok to be friends with someone if they steal the money from you themselves.
If they do it through their "business" and steal money from your business it is ok, it's just business. But if they take money out of your wallet when you not looking that that is " Personal".
I am as lost with this as you are at the way some of these people here think. I asked a very very simple question and i got fucking ten pages back about not taking hit men to conventions, lynchings, public enemy #1, and about 50 other rediculas sayings all because I asked 1 very simple question:
hint it was a yes or no question.If Lars' "business decisions" help contribute to the company you work for to lose a lot of money and you get laid off because their sales are down due to all the free content floating around on sites that lars supports..... would you still like him personally ?ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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Yep. Checked. I didn't write anywhere that I believed you thought his company had done the right thing (although the distinction between the individual and the company is somewhat lost on me in this case, since Lars has posted a lot in a very personal vein, far more than mere duty would require).
In fact that was my whole point. How do you separate the person from his actions? Especially since in this instance, however respectfully he treats you in person, your traffic is as much a target as anyone else's?
Thirty-odd years ago I had some friends in south London who were involved not merely in outright illegal activities, but who could be extremely violent on occasion. So I know something about being able to look at someone and ignore - let's call them - ethical issues. But then I was never one of their targets. I simply cannot imagine continuing to think of them as friends, if I thought for a moment they were even considering me as such. In fact, it was probably from them that I learned most about what lines one should or should not cross in life.Comment
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My agenda driven propaganda. Please explain what my agenda is? I can't wait to hear what my agenda is.
hey asshole, you started the thread.
You started this thread. You said the thread hadn't produced the results you expected.
I asked you what results you were looking for. A honest fucking question and you going to through it back on me, and then say I am trying spin something.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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