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jact · 04-16-2007, 01:37 PM

Oh, oh, pick me! pick me! No wait, I already know the answer.. That's not a fair contest. Send me to Curacao anyway?

mailman · 04-16-2007, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jact

Oh, oh, pick me! pick me! No wait, I already know the answer.. That's not a fair contest. Send me to Curacao anyway?

Send me the answer and Ill take you

jact · 04-16-2007, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mailman

Send me the answer and Ill take you

I don't travel with pink luggage people!

tony286 · 04-16-2007, 01:40 PM

How is the weather there this time of year?

mailman · 04-16-2007, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jact

I don't travel with pink luggage people!

hater.

Far-L · 04-17-2007, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

Both been profiting off your content without you getting paid for it?

No comment except I am going to let someone else be the judge of that...

DamageX · 04-17-2007, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Far-L

No comment except I am going to let someone else be the judge of that...

WTF, no comment? And I was SOOOOOOOOO looking forward to some drama... And going to Curacao.

jact · 04-17-2007, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

WTF, no comment? And I was SOOOOOOOOO looking forward to some drama... And going to Curacao.

Soon enough, the stars will align, Jupiter will come into close orbit and the writings will become clear. Once these celestial events transpire, you will have your wish for drama.

Far-L · 04-17-2007, 01:13 AM

Here is a hint, albeit sort of obscure...

Irish Republican Army

XPays · 04-17-2007, 01:17 AM

everyone is blaiming lars when it's the majority owner of the company they should be noting for his consistent lack of moralistic advertising placement. i bet lars would drop all those ads in a flash if he could.

DamageX · 04-17-2007, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jact

Soon enough, the stars will align, Jupiter will come into close orbit and the writings will become clear. Once these celestial events transpire, you will have your wish for drama.

Cool. How about Curacao then?

DamageX · 04-17-2007, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by XPays

everyone is blaiming lars when it's the majority owner of the company they should be noting for his consistent lack of moralistic advertising placement. i bet lars would drop all those ads in a flash if he could.

Yes, because unlike the majority owner, Lars doesn't like money at all.

jact · 04-17-2007, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

Cool. How about Curacao then?

LOL

will76 · 04-17-2007, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by XPays

everyone is blaiming lars when it's the majority owner of the company they should be noting for his consistent lack of moralistic advertising placement. i bet lars would drop all those ads in a flash if he could.

Did Andrew make him act like an asshole on GFY too ?

When will it end.. Sexsearch made him do it, no, no, Andrew made him do it. At least Andrew is more believable. i like to think Lars went to him and asked him to stop, and he said no, but that doesn't excuse lars for defending it here. He could have just declinded and left it at that.

Far-L · 04-17-2007, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by XPays

everyone is blaiming lars when it's the majority owner of the company they should be noting for his consistent lack of moralistic advertising placement. i bet lars would drop all those ads in a flash if he could.

Yep, but that is why someone coined the phrase about laying down next to the dog with fleas.

I do have an idea about what Lars might be going through though... when we first hooked with CE back in the day there were tons of people who hated us and would not talk to us because of some brouhaha with CEN that had absolutely nothing to do with us.

For what it is worth, AFF did take everything down as soon as we asked. We are taking action on this. We are going after the roots though and here AFF did the right thing as far as we are concerned.

To anyone getting ripped off though in this same way, talk to an attorney because this is the kind of thing that makes them salivate and think about things like working on contingency...

XPays · 04-17-2007, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

Yes, because unlike the majority owner, Lars doesn't like money at all.

I'm not defending Lars but when Igallery sold to noof are you going to talk to ed and greg and brad and scott (former owners) or kreloff(noof ceo)?

will76 · 04-17-2007, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Far-L

Here is a hint, albeit sort of obscure...

Irish Republican Army

tell me and i will spill it for free. I don't have time for a trip.

Tell me who was on the list pushing for xxx too, I will spill all that info, just give me some proof.

<--- not a rumor starter.

XPays · 04-17-2007, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Far-L

Yep, but that is why someone coined the phrase about laying down next to the dog with fleas.

I do have an idea about what Lars might be going through though... when we first hooked with CE back in the day there were tons of people who hated us and would not talk to us because of some brouhaha with CEN that had absolutely nothing to do with us.

For what it is worth, AFF did take everything down as soon as we asked. We are taking action on this. We are going after the roots though and here AFF did the right thing as far as we are concerned.

To anyone getting ripped off though in this same way, talk to an attorney because this is the kind of thing that makes them salivate and think about things like working on contingency...

It is good to hear they are not stepping on one of the good guys anymore.

When are you coming down??? Giants game and special sushi night followed by a massage from a professional board certified masseuse in downtown s.f...???

will76 · 04-17-2007, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Far-L

For what it is worth, AFF did take everything down as soon as we asked. We are taking action on this. We are going after the roots though and here AFF did the right thing as far as we are concerned.

:

I think i missed something here: http://www.btmon.com/torrent/homegrown AFF is still advertising on the same page that has your stolen content. What did they take down ?

XPays · 04-17-2007, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

xxx too, I will spill all that info, just give me some proof.

<--- not a rumor starter.

such an easy one for anyone around back when hendeles was pitching adult companies for support

DamageX · 04-17-2007, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Far-L

Here is a hint, albeit sort of obscure...

Irish Republican Army

So Irish Pimp worked for both?

Far-L · 04-17-2007, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

tell me and i will spill it for free. I don't have time for a trip.

Tell me who was on the list pushing for xxx too, I will spill all that info, just give me some proof.

<--- not a rumor starter.

Tell ya what... you take over the multi-million dollar suits against two companies with 100's of millions in resources that I am already fighting and I will be happy to do that. Until that happens you are going to have to be happy with the public record in each of the cases.

Far-L · 04-17-2007, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

So Irish Pimp worked for both?

Hero of the dead beats!

SleazyDream · 04-17-2007, 01:46 AM

funny - people goto gfy before going to aff. any affilate program could have been put in that situation. step one - contact program, not goto gfy and blaim.

all this does is prove stupidity

XPays · 04-17-2007, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

funny - people goto gfy before going to aff. any affilate program could have been put in that situation. step one - contact program, not goto gfy and blaim.

all this does is prove stupidity

you left off step 2: enjoy increased revenues across the board as your illegal competition is eradicated.

Far-L · 04-17-2007, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

I think i missed something here: http://www.btmon.com/torrent/homegrown AFF is still advertising on the same page that has your stolen content. What did they take down ?

Well shiver me timbers...

you got me there... I guess I should say that we might always find that in fact AFF is a contributory infringer but I am not accusing anybody of anything until all the facts are out.

jact · 04-17-2007, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

funny - people goto gfy before going to aff. any affilate program could have been put in that situation. step one - contact program, not goto gfy and blaim.

all this does is prove stupidity

If it were an isolated incident, or at least a rare incident I would have no problem keeping it out of the public eye, but when you go to pretty much any torrent site out there and see AFF.. Come on, it has to be brought to the public eye. We can't keep turning a blind eye to the dark parts of the industry in hopes it'll just go away.

DamageX · 04-17-2007, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jact

If it were an isolated incident, or at least a rare incident I would have no problem keeping it out of the public eye, but when you go to pretty much any torrent site out there and see AFF.. Come on, it has to be brought to the public eye. We can't keep turning a blind eye to the dark parts of the industry in hopes it'll just go away.

Heh, I think the fact that you find them on any torrent site has already brought it to the public eye.

XPays · 04-17-2007, 01:52 AM

i know you have great legal but if you want Paul to handle all of your pirates, http://Berra.org ......

jact · 04-17-2007, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

Heh, I think the fact that you find them on any torrent site has already brought it to the public eye.

The webmaster public, not everyone in the industry even knows what BitTorrent is. Or what a problem it poses to anyone who owns copyrights.

will76 · 04-17-2007, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Far-L

Tell ya what... you take over the multi-million dollar suits against two companies with 100's of millions in resources that I am already fighting and I will be happy to do that. Until that happens you are going to have to be happy with the public record in each of the cases.

tell ya what..... I wouldn't have asked if you wouldn't have been playing the guessing game.

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Originally Posted by Far-L

This is just a quick trivia question since I am not interested in exacerbating this stuff any further.
What do CE and AFF have in common?.

Fresh_Designs · 04-17-2007, 02:08 AM

Thats hot?..

will76 · 04-17-2007, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Far-L

Well shiver me timbers...

you got me there... I guess I should say that we might always find that in fact AFF is a contributory infringer but I am not accusing anybody of anything until all the facts are out.

WTF ? You said

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Originally Posted by Far-L

For what it is worth, AFF did take everything down as soon as we asked. :

You guys must be high or something, im out of here.

Brujah · 04-17-2007, 09:52 AM

Clicking the AFF links now on BTMon show:

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Far-L · 04-17-2007, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

WTF ? You said

You guys must be high or something, im out of here.

No, the problem is with you taking everything too literally and seriously... this is gfy forpetessakes...

(actually, i am not kidding about the part where we will be taking action on this)

I agree with Evan on this - shut down the pirates and profits will go up.

DatingGold · 04-17-2007, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

Clicking the AFF links now on BTMon show:

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Hey do you have ICQ? wanted to ask you about a site.

fris · 04-17-2007, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

funny - people goto gfy before going to aff. any affilate program could have been put in that situation. step one - contact program, not goto gfy and blaim.

all this does is prove stupidity

AFF doesnt listen to anything

plenty of sites are doing this

shooshtime.com
piratebay.org
torrentspy
btmon

and the list goes on.

i doubt lars will even kill any of these accounts cause of the traffic they have, even if they using content without even promoting the programs.

Far-L · 04-17-2007, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Fris

AFF doesnt listen to anything

plenty of sites are doing this

shooshtime.com
piratebay.org
torrentspy
btmon

and the list goes on.

i doubt lars will even kill any of these accounts cause of the traffic they have, even if they using content without even promoting the programs.

The problem is a many headed hydra... but chopping off the heads of it only allows another to grow back; if one got aff to stop then another would surely take their place... so the effort must be to go after the heart.

fris · 04-17-2007, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Far-L

The problem is a many headed hydra... but chopping off the heads of it only allows another to grow back; if one got aff to stop then another would surely take their place... so the effort must be to go after the heart.

a lot of the sites will remove the content upon request, but then a week later the content is back, different content, but still.

Far-L · 04-17-2007, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Fris

a lot of the sites will remove the content upon request, but then a week later the content is back, different content, but still.

Our biggest issue is with the people taking the copyright notices off our videos... that is just pure evil... which I promise we will smite down with great and furious vengeance.

LadyMischief · 04-17-2007, 02:22 PM

Pleased to say that AFF dealt with the affillite's account in a very timely manner. Thanks very much to them for their help.

TampaToker · 04-17-2007, 02:29 PM

Must of been a non profitable account

profiteer · 04-17-2007, 03:42 PM

Sound like in the end, Lars is doing the right thing!!

profiteer · 04-17-2007, 03:43 PM

Did you see the click through message? Really!

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Jace · 04-17-2007, 03:45 PM

jesus christ guys, stop saying "Lars" every time it is about AFF...Lars WORKS for them and has a 10% share of the company, just cause he is the spokes person on gfy about it all, doesn't mean he has any say whatsoever in what happens in the day to day operations of the company...in fact, I would venture to guess he doesn't have much say at all with only 10% ownership

yes, 10% of that company is a lot of money, but very little authority

Jace · 04-17-2007, 03:46 PM

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Did you see the click through message? Really!

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considering it was posted above you right in this thread, yeah

LadyMischief · 04-17-2007, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace

jesus christ guys, stop saying "Lars" every time it is about AFF...Lars WORKS for them and has a 10% share of the company, just cause he is the spokes person on gfy about it all, doesn't mean he has any say whatsoever in what happens in the day to day operations of the company...in fact, I would venture to guess he doesn't have much say at all with only 10% ownership

yes, 10% of that company is a lot of money, but very little authority

Don't try to speak sense to some of these people Jace, might as well hit yourself on the head with a hammer for all the good it will do.

That's pretty much what I tried to say before lol.

The Real Deal · 04-17-2007, 05:11 PM

You are alll broke ass affiliates and fucking employees.

No one cares what you think, your out of your paygrade on this matter.

go make some fucking galleries or whatever it is that you do to scratch together rent money

Far-L · 04-17-2007, 05:16 PM

Yep - I have zero problem with Lars personally. Business is business. Ethics are ethics and and the only similarity really is that both are immutable and how one conducts themselves to either is a matter of choice. I do not have a clue about what choices Lars has made and I am not going to criticize him for something I really know nothing about.

We will see what the FTC does about stuff like zango and Bit Torrent but in the mean time even if I have an ethical issue with software from companies like 180 solutions and stealing with peer to peer I cannot say that anyone else should define their judgement by the same terms until a legal precedent is set and we can all clearly see this is or is not against the law.

I think will76 has made it a crusade against Lars which has only hurt his efforts to draw attention to the very real problem of traffic hijacking and content theives using Bit Torrent.

As I said before, we asked AFF to deal with the problem affiliate and they did so very promptly. I am sure if anyone else here asked the same of them then I assume they would be treated equally.

natas · 04-17-2007, 05:22 PM

one fiddy

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Far-L Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 6,065	Yep - I have zero problem with Lars personally. Business is business. Ethics are ethics and and the only similarity really is that both are immutable and how one conducts themselves to either is a matter of choice. I do not have a clue about what choices Lars has made and I am not going to criticize him for something I really know nothing about. We will see what the FTC does about stuff like zango and Bit Torrent but in the mean time even if I have an ethical issue with software from companies like 180 solutions and stealing with peer to peer I cannot say that anyone else should define their judgement by the same terms until a legal precedent is set and we can all clearly see this is or is not against the law. I think will76 has made it a crusade against Lars which has only hurt his efforts to draw attention to the very real problem of traffic hijacking and content theives using Bit Torrent. As I said before, we asked AFF to deal with the problem affiliate and they did so very promptly. I am sure if anyone else here asked the same of them then I assume they would be treated equally. __________________ HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982. Contact - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."

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