Originally Posted by Bloomer (Post 12253931)

Its True you should know who I am by now!
http://www.darksidedata.com/gfy/sadam2.gif

Originally Posted by Aussie Rebel (Post 12253953)

I dont really think anyone really gives a fuck who you are:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Aussie Rebel (Post 12253953)

I dont really think anyone really gives a fuck who you are:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 12252380)

I have a suspicion that these people just really don't care. Lensman and Lars have both made their money. I am sure they both are set for life even if they fuck up a bunch of times.

This would make you think all the more that money wouldn't matter as much since they have done so well for themselves and maybe they would do the right thing even though it might make them a few bucks less.

For example, say zango contributes to less than 1% of your income and you have a lot of money. Wouldn't it be more fufilling to do the right the right thing, be a leader, try to help the people who have helped you get to where you are ?

Unfortunetly it seems the more money people make the more greedy they get, and that is a dangerous combination... lots of money (power) and greed.

Maybe I will be proven wrong. I can only hope.

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 12252919)

LOL sorry can't help but laugh. So damned if you do damned if you don't. So no attention should be brought to the problem and it just keeps happening. Or you educate people so they know what is going on.

I still fail to see how educating people is making it worse ? please explain.

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 12254084)

Bloomer is Stile?

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 12254010)

considering his image uses darksidedata.com

I would imagine that makes it pretty easy to figure out

Originally Posted by hungry hungry hippy (Post 12254209)

more whining.. now what did that accomplish?? they don't give a fuck about the whiney posts on here. who would? until it hits the bank, they'll continue laughing there................

Originally Posted by vvq (Post 12254040)

will are you that ignorant to think you haven't rasied Zangos client base since you began your crusade? I know I never heard of them before you started posting about it daily. This industry is heartless. A few noble webmasters probably dropped AFF, but you brought into light a new means of advertising and traffic generation for the snakes that crawl this board. Money is what creates action in this business. So what if AFF lost some webmasters. Do you not see the big picture? Thousands of other little guys are now in the frey doing business with Zango. And I'm sure more Zango clone companies will be stepping up to the plate.

You've showed the adult community spyware still is profitable. You keep it in the spotlight and more and more people hop on board. You can only stop these people with legal action. Posting on the boards about it only gives them publicity. You only give Zango more clients to line their pockets and fuck our traffic. Just fucking let it go already. You're not helping the situation at all. If anything you're numbing people to Zango. They see posts about it every day and are starting to not give a fuck.

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 12253018)

I missed this. but i have replied that question you made previously a couple times. I guess you seem to ignore it each time.


A side affect is that zango may get more customers, shaddy fuckers buying traffic. Fine, I get to see who these people are who think that zango is an opertunity for them to steal from me and everyone else, and they will be on my do not do business with list.

The side affect is only that it makes zango more money because the traffic prices get bid higher, since more shaddy assholes bidding on it. It's my traffic if you going to steal it at least i caused you to make less profit off of my traffic. Look at AFF, because of all the zango stuff here they can no longer make a profit from it. That wasn't our intention but it does give a little satisfaction, even if it is just a sliver.

No more pop ups are happening now then they were before zango was posted here, no more traffic being stolen. Only difference now is the cost of the traffic is going up for the assholes buying it.

Now if all of this zango stir caused more people to go run out and do zango installs than yes we would be doing more harm than good. That has not happened and no one with 1/2 a brain would be stupid enough to go do zango installs after finding out how they really work.

Please reply back with something other than sarcasm. I would love to see you debate this with me or prove where what I am doing, and others, is actually hurting us and we should shut up like you suggested.

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 12254591)

WOW you missed it again. Read what I posted below and try again. you are wrong. I don't understand why you just ignore what I post, its like you just block out what I say because you have your mind made up already. read below:

Originally Posted by vvq (Post 12254624)

do you understand why the price of ads went up? because MORE advertisers are bidding. it's just like ppc man. the problem didn't go away. AFF dropped them. a thousand other people are bidding on the same terms and urls.

Originally Posted by Bloomer (Post 12253881)

PROVE YOUR ACCUSATIONS OF BLAMING THIS BOARD AND ITS OWNER OF SUPPORTING THIS OR SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Originally Posted by vvq (Post 12254040)

will are you that ignorant to think you haven't rasied Zangos client base since you began your crusade? I know I never heard of them before you started posting about it daily. This industry is heartless. A few noble webmasters probably dropped AFF, but you brought into light a new means of advertising and traffic generation for the snakes that crawl this board. Money is what creates action in this business. So what if AFF lost some webmasters. Do you not see the big picture? Thousands of other little guys are now in the frey doing business with Zango. And I'm sure more Zango clone companies will be stepping up to the plate.

You've showed the adult community spyware still is profitable. You keep it in the spotlight and more and more people hop on board. You can only stop these people with legal action. Posting on the boards about it only gives them publicity. You only give Zango more clients to line their pockets and fuck our traffic. Just fucking let it go already. You're not helping the situation at all. If anything you're numbing people to Zango. They see posts about it every day and are starting to not give a fuck.

Originally Posted by vvq (Post 12254624)

do you understand why the price of ads went up? because MORE advertisers are bidding. it's just like ppc man. the problem didn't go away. AFF dropped them. a thousand other people are bidding on the same terms and urls.

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 12254641)

I have to agree there...what I think happened is that Zango was relatively unknown for a long time, and sponsors were able to get in there and get their cheap terms....but when this whole zango/gfy shit got going big, a lot of people were able to see how easy it was to pop up their ads over top any keyword they wanted....aff stopped promoting via zango simply because too many other individuals started

Originally Posted by vvq (Post 12254624)

do you understand why the price of ads went up? because MORE advertisers are bidding. it's just like ppc man. the problem didn't go away. AFF dropped them. a thousand other people are bidding on the same terms and urls.

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 12253018)

A side affect is that zango may get more customers, shaddy fuckers buying traffic. Fine, I get to see who these people are who think that zango is an opertunity for them to steal from me and everyone else, and they will be on my do not do business with list.

The side affect is only that it makes zango more money because the traffic prices get bid higher, since more shaddy assholes bidding on it. It's my traffic if you going to steal it at least i caused you to make less profit off of my traffic. Look at AFF, because of all the zango stuff here they can no longer make a profit from it. That wasn't our intention but it does give a little satisfaction, even if it is just a sliver.

No more pop ups are happening now then they were before zango was posted here, no more traffic being stolen. Only difference now is the cost of the traffic is going up for the assholes buying it.

Now if all of this zango stir caused more people to go run out and do zango installs than yes we would be doing more harm than good. That has not happened and no one with 1/2 a brain would be stupid enough to go do zango installs after finding out how they really work.

Please reply back with something other than sarcasm. I would love to see you debate this with me or prove where what I am doing, and others, is actually hurting us and we should shut up like you suggested.

Originally Posted by Bloomer (Post 12253881)

PROVE YOUR ACCUSATIONS OF BLAMING THIS BOARD AND ITS OWNER OF SUPPORTING THIS OR SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Originally Posted by vvq (Post 12252796)

by bringing attention to the problem you only make the problem bigger. this is GFY. it's full of snakes that will line up to use Zango. every day you guys make posts about it you send them more customers to leach everyones traffic.

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 12256264)

You're right. Better to just shut up and ignore major industry problems and hope they go away on their own.

That's it, no more threads discussing what's wrong with the industry!

All is fine, no problems here.

Business as usual.


<insert Bagdad Bob pic here>

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 12256756)

He hasn't been able to offer 1 example how us talking about it is making things worse.

Originally Posted by Kevsh (Post 12257184)

If talking about things only made them worse ... I guess we should stop making newspapers and TV news shows should only report "feel good" stories.

His argument makes no sense and just another lame attempt to distract from the issue. I suggest ignoring these guys with non-sensical arguments and sticking to the debate.

Remember, the majority of us are sheep. We follow and do not lead. If those that set the trends take a stand, the sheep will follow. And that is why discussions like this are good.

If visible companies and boards take a stand it has a trickle-down effect. "See what happens when you screw people". On the other hand ignoring it gives the okay: "Well, if the big guys don't have a problem with it, why should I?"

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 12253650)

datinggold.com supporting content theft

http://www.torrentspy.com/torrent/60...otorren t_com

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 12252338)

Never in the history of the internet have i seen such blatant copyright theft taking place, and the sponsors involved dont seem to be very proactive about it. Some even supporting these companies..

Guess who the 2 advertisers i see most commonly on these copyright theft sites.

AFF and ZANGO

This is disrespectfull to the affiliates , AND the models.


Why am i singling out lensman ? Because he is gfy , and has a unique op to help the industry by taking a hard stance.

Be proactive. WE DONT SUPPORT SPYWARE and will CAN ANY AFFILIATE or PARTNER SENDING US TRAFFIC USING THESE COMPANIES.



As a realitycash affiliate it makes it hard to sell your sites when FULL site rips are available freely on the net and NOTHING is done, not even cutting off the person profiting from your stolen material ( i.e. zango )

thanks for your time

-end rant