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candicam · 08-15-2002, 02:28 PM

Beware of GoodChris & XNetManagement

The Check Is In the Mail & I Won't Cum in Your Mouth..........

Ive heard it countless times before, so why wasnt I smart enough to see it coming this time? I've been a lurker here for over a year but this is my first post. Everyone seems to look out for each other in the amateur community and I feel its my responsibility to give a heads up to anyone who is or is planning to do business with a guy named Chris Begin aka "GoodChris",( formerly of WRP) now BDA "XnetManagement". Im almost certain he was just down in FL drumming up business for himself. Anyone considering doing any business with Chris Begin or XnetManagement should seriously reconsider their decision.

Back in March, he and I entered into an agreement of 35% of my net revenue in exchange for his promotional/marketing services. Like an idiot, I let him get started without a contract signed between us.....thats my bad.....shame on me. Whats worse is, I agreed to switch my new signups over to his Epoch account without a contract either,.....thats my bad #2......so shame on me again. I dont want to get in a pissing match here over who did or didnt do what. But the long and short of it goes like this:
After 2 months of his backpaddling, I decided to terminate my business relationship with Chris Begin & XNetManagement solely because he didnt do ANYTHING we had verbally agreed on. For starters, simply hammering out a contract with me in writing clearly stating what services I was receiving in exchange for 35% of my net. When he became increasingly evasive when questioned about it and more and more difficult to communicate with, I did what anyone else would have done. I cut my losses and went back to running my own affairs, maybe not very successfully but at least the checks have my name on them again. Epoch paid him a long time ago, and of course he still hasnt sent me squat for revenue generated during the time MY customers were directed to his processor. I know I never should have allowed him to switch my join page as part of his marketing plan...that I can guarantee I will NEVER let happen again. You know how the story ends....if I hear "the check is in the mail" one more time Im gonna puke. I realize I dont have a leg to stand on without anything in writing, and I'll never see a dime of those monies. Live and learn. Whats sad is, its only $438 but its the principle of the thing. He obviously must need it alot more than I do. I find it really ironic that the favorite quote in his profile here is "Assumption is the Mother of all Fuckups". Boy is that an understatement.

quiet · 08-15-2002, 02:29 PM

Shooter · 08-15-2002, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
hmm

I second that.

boneprone · 08-15-2002, 02:37 PM

I wont cumm in your mouth?
YOu hear that often?

[illnet]-Romeo · 08-15-2002, 02:41 PM

You seriously need to change your name brotha.. Little too close for comfort..

^R3K^ · 08-15-2002, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Romeo_CandidCam
You seriously need to change your name brotha.. Little too close for comfort..

ahahaha

playa · 08-15-2002, 02:55 PM

so who is GoodChris?
is it the same as Evil Chris?
and are you with CandidCams?

[illnet]-Romeo · 08-15-2002, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by playa
so who is GoodChris?
is it the same as Evil Chris?
and are you with CandidCams?

here we go!

Spunkyed · 08-15-2002, 03:05 PM

I wont cum in your mouth

cause Lisa would kill me

she said you were supposed to email her?

Spunkyed · 08-15-2002, 03:07 PM

heh, or maybe i have you confused with someone else....

Tipsy · 08-15-2002, 03:10 PM

Fuckit I'm not gonna lie. I WILL cum in your mouth and make you swallow every drop!

candicam · 08-15-2002, 03:11 PM

Thanks Pornopete
I am Candi of CandiCam.....no CandiDcam (btw I get alot of mail for you guys).....
My post is about GoodChris......NOT Evil Chris although I believe they both used to work together at one time. So my apologies to EvilChris for any confusion

mikey531 · 08-15-2002, 03:19 PM

I believe GoodChris has a lot of explaining to do...inot only ot any prospective clients, but also to WRP Productions whose good name he may be dragging into the mud by using them as a reference while he fails to keep any promises.

GoodChris, if you had any conscience, you would either pay the lady what she is due, or give her a truthful explanation why the money that she is rightfully owed is not in her hands.

jimmyf · 08-15-2002, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Romeo_CandidCam
You seriously need to change your name brotha.. Little too close for comfort..

I kind of like his name...we need more Candid

candicam · 08-15-2002, 03:27 PM

Whatcha have in mind Pete?

Sleepy · 08-15-2002, 03:45 PM

Assuming your side of the story is true.. I would have my current processor rebuild the password database minus Chris's customers. Once the chargebacks start rolling in I'll bet everyone becomes more interested in paying you. Just make sure you rename or remove Epochs software so nobody has the ability to screw with your password file. You could try calling Epoch and telling them what the deal is too. Who knows.. they want those rebills as much as you so maybe they will do the right thing. Its either that or they take a hit too.

candicam · 08-15-2002, 03:52 PM

Did that a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time ago Sleepy

Sleepy · 08-15-2002, 04:02 PM

Ahahahaha ! So atleast you got the sweet taste of revenge

boneprone · 08-15-2002, 04:02 PM

Good or Evil, you just cant trust anyone with the name "chris" with your wife these days.

Funbrunette · 08-15-2002, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone
Good or Evil, you just cant trust anyone with the name "chris" with your wife these days.

Tipsy · 08-15-2002, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone
Good or Evil, you just cant trust anyone with the name "chris" with your wife these days.

... and if you have a wife named Chris you're really in the shit!

gothweb · 08-15-2002, 04:21 PM

I find one little part of this funny. An established personality (just not on this board) shows up using her usual name, CandiCam. And someone from one of the *two* companies that uses "Candid" (with a D) complains about her title. You realized that was silly after you posted, right?

GoodChris · 08-15-2002, 04:23 PM

Wow Candi, you're really not understanding things here I guess.

As you try to tarnish my name, I am going to warn webmasters to beware of candicam.com/patti lomas.

When I go into an agreement with anyone to do their traffic, I switch the billing to my processor. In the event that we end our agreement, I am to keep every bit of the agreed upon percentage of recurring billing until each customer has expired from the billing cycle that was processed under the term of our agreement.

We started to process your site on April 6th. From May 10 until May 15 I was out of town. I left you my cell number in case of emergency etc. You decided to remove my processor from your join page on May 13th, restore your old processor and CANCEL EACH AND EVERY CUSTOMER that was aquired under our agreement.

For the $777.00 that was processed in 5 weeks, without warning or reason, you simply cancelled them. So now, my efforts according to you are worth under $200.00. I don't even get the recurring billing from the work that I DID for your site, a site in which you said you got maybe 2 signups in the month just before I took it over.

I think you should think twice about starting a war with me here, or I will stop payment on the checks that have been sent to you, to cover the legal costs of any law suit that may be incurred from your public slander.

Webmasters, think twice about working with candicam, or at least, make sure that you sign a contract with her before you do any work for her. That was my biggest mistake.

GoodChris · 08-15-2002, 04:38 PM

Just so that there is no confusion, Evil Chris and I are 2 very different people. Sorry if your name got confused in here bro.

Jakke PNG · 08-15-2002, 04:38 PM

What makes this thread peachy and dandy is the fact that now neither of you have credibility. We have no way of knowing who's the sack of shit, so I assume you both are.

GoodChris · 08-15-2002, 04:39 PM

Well if anyone from epoch wishes to do a datadump for the dates from may 13th to 14th, I'm sure that would show what was done.

Moose · 08-15-2002, 04:42 PM

I know wich way I go.

candicam · 08-15-2002, 04:43 PM

Chris you can say what you want. The bottom line is you owe me $. PERIOD
Yes I cancelled those memberships. Why should I let you collect recurring memberships from people that signed up for me....not you, when it was clear you were yanking my chain anyway? I would think someone of your caliber and expertise in this industry wouldnt be snivelling over 20 lousy memberships anyway, much less only $438. And by the way, you have your figures wrong, I get more signups on my own, before and after you and I met. If you think you are justified in keeping the $, fine you can have it. But quit lying to me month after month. Either way its just lame business and you know it.
And Im not here to solicit for anyone to do business with me, just to warn them about you.
Oh and nice threat to stop payment to a check thats not in the mail.

GoodChris · 08-15-2002, 04:57 PM

Well lets just make it public as soon as you get your checks the same way that you made it public when its taken a little too long.

Tipsy · 08-15-2002, 05:01 PM

I'm confused now. Where does the oral sex come into this? Did he cum when he said he wouldn't? Bugger the money I wanna know about the oral sex!

GoodChris · 08-15-2002, 05:09 PM

PornoPete,

I wouldn't stop the payments, thats not my style. I said that out of frustration. I just wish that rather than air dirty laundry without realizing what she did to me, she would've thought about it first. I mailed checks to her last Tuesday. I am in Canada and she is in the US. It can take 10 business days for checks to arrive. I don't think waiting 7 business days was worthy of public slander.

I work with other people and never has anyone done what she did to me. Now I have to reconsider my business model once again to make sure that this doesn't happen again.

I will admit that I could have sent her the checks sooner, but had she not shut off the billing and cancelled all of the clients on me, she and I would have 0 issues right now. I was a little peeved by the whole affair.

GoodChris · 08-15-2002, 05:25 PM

I agree with you 100%.

Tipsy · 08-15-2002, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornopete
You can't change the past. I think everybody can see that this situation will get settled in the end. You both lost a business partner, nothing more.

Take it as a life lesson and move on. Airing dirty laundry does no good for either party involved.

Most sensible post in this thread.

candicam · 08-15-2002, 06:23 PM

I have to agree with you, but I refuse to get fuct again in this industry and just roll over like it didnt happen.

Just the Village Idiot · 08-15-2002, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by candicam
I have to agree with you, but I refuse to get fuct again in this industry and just roll over like it didnt happen.

Anyone else find this funny...

gothweb · 08-15-2002, 09:32 PM

This is the point in the thread where I like to stop by and point out that when people have pissing matches like this, both of them lose reputation. In general, I would say that the satisfaction you get out of defending your own side is not worth the harm done by everyone seeing your dirty laundry. Attacking someone else, and them attacking back, make you look bad. Each side gets double trouble.

mrthumbs · 08-15-2002, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb
In general, I would say that the satisfaction you get out of defending your own side is not worth the harm done by everyone seeing your dirty laundry. Attacking someone else, and them attacking back, make you look bad. Each side gets double trouble.

Great Gothweb.. beside the fact people know you're a pussy
they now also know they can screw you and you'll never tell....

for the nice people.

08-15-2002, 02:28 PM	#1
candicam Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 6	Beware of "GoodChris" Beware of GoodChris & XNetManagement The Check Is In the Mail & I Won't Cum in Your Mouth.......... Ive heard it countless times before, so why wasnt I smart enough to see it coming this time? I've been a lurker here for over a year but this is my first post. Everyone seems to look out for each other in the amateur community and I feel its my responsibility to give a heads up to anyone who is or is planning to do business with a guy named Chris Begin aka "GoodChris",( formerly of WRP) now BDA "XnetManagement". Im almost certain he was just down in FL drumming up business for himself. Anyone considering doing any business with Chris Begin or XnetManagement should seriously reconsider their decision. Back in March, he and I entered into an agreement of 35% of my net revenue in exchange for his promotional/marketing services. Like an idiot, I let him get started without a contract signed between us.....thats my bad.....shame on me. Whats worse is, I agreed to switch my new signups over to his Epoch account without a contract either,.....thats my bad #2......so shame on me again. I dont want to get in a pissing match here over who did or didnt do what. But the long and short of it goes like this: After 2 months of his backpaddling, I decided to terminate my business relationship with Chris Begin & XNetManagement solely because he didnt do ANYTHING we had verbally agreed on. For starters, simply hammering out a contract with me in writing clearly stating what services I was receiving in exchange for 35% of my net. When he became increasingly evasive when questioned about it and more and more difficult to communicate with, I did what anyone else would have done. I cut my losses and went back to running my own affairs, maybe not very successfully but at least the checks have my name on them again. Epoch paid him a long time ago, and of course he still hasnt sent me squat for revenue generated during the time MY customers were directed to his processor. I know I never should have allowed him to switch my join page as part of his marketing plan...that I can guarantee I will NEVER let happen again. You know how the story ends....if I hear "the check is in the mail" one more time Im gonna puke. I realize I dont have a leg to stand on without anything in writing, and I'll never see a dime of those monies. Live and learn. Whats sad is, its only $438 but its the principle of the thing. He obviously must need it alot more than I do. I find it really ironic that the favorite quote in his profile here is "Assumption is the Mother of all Fuckups". Boy is that an understatement.

08-15-2002, 02:37 PM	#4
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08-15-2002, 02:41 PM	#5
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08-15-2002, 03:10 PM	#11
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08-15-2002, 03:19 PM	#13
mikey531 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1	I believe GoodChris has a lot of explaining to do...inot only ot any prospective clients, but also to WRP Productions whose good name he may be dragging into the mud by using them as a reference while he fails to keep any promises. GoodChris, if you had any conscience, you would either pay the lady what she is due, or give her a truthful explanation why the money that she is rightfully owed is not in her hands. __________________ Some guys play hard to get...I play hard to want

08-15-2002, 02:29 PM	#2
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	hmm __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP

08-15-2002, 02:55 PM	#7
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	so who is GoodChris? is it the same as Evil Chris? and are you with CandidCams?

08-15-2002, 03:05 PM	#9
Spunkyed So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Tyler, Tx Posts: 290	I wont cum in your mouth cause Lisa would kill me she said you were supposed to email her?

08-15-2002, 03:07 PM	#10
Spunkyed So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Tyler, Tx Posts: 290	heh, or maybe i have you confused with someone else....

08-15-2002, 03:11 PM	#12
candicam Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 6	Thanks Pornopete I am Candi of CandiCam.....no CandiDcam (btw I get alot of mail for you guys)..... My post is about GoodChris......NOT Evil Chris although I believe they both used to work together at one time. So my apologies to EvilChris for any confusion

08-15-2002, 03:27 PM	#15
candicam Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 6	Whatcha have in mind Pete?

08-15-2002, 03:45 PM	#16
Sleepy Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Porn Peddler Posts: 679	Assuming your side of the story is true.. I would have my current processor rebuild the password database minus Chris's customers. Once the chargebacks start rolling in I'll bet everyone becomes more interested in paying you. Just make sure you rename or remove Epochs software so nobody has the ability to screw with your password file. You could try calling Epoch and telling them what the deal is too. Who knows.. they want those rebills as much as you so maybe they will do the right thing. Its either that or they take a hit too.

08-15-2002, 03:52 PM	#17
candicam Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 6	Did that a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time ago Sleepy

08-15-2002, 04:02 PM	#18
Sleepy Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Porn Peddler Posts: 679	Ahahahaha ! So atleast you got the sweet taste of revenge

08-15-2002, 04:21 PM	#22
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	I find one little part of this funny. An established personality (just not on this board) shows up using her usual name, CandiCam. And someone from one of the two companies that uses "Candid" (with a D) complains about her title. You realized that was silly after you posted, right? __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

08-15-2002, 04:23 PM	#23
GoodChris Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 454	Wow Candi, you're really not understanding things here I guess. As you try to tarnish my name, I am going to warn webmasters to beware of candicam.com/patti lomas. When I go into an agreement with anyone to do their traffic, I switch the billing to my processor. In the event that we end our agreement, I am to keep every bit of the agreed upon percentage of recurring billing until each customer has expired from the billing cycle that was processed under the term of our agreement. We started to process your site on April 6th. From May 10 until May 15 I was out of town. I left you my cell number in case of emergency etc. You decided to remove my processor from your join page on May 13th, restore your old processor and CANCEL EACH AND EVERY CUSTOMER that was aquired under our agreement. For the $777.00 that was processed in 5 weeks, without warning or reason, you simply cancelled them. So now, my efforts according to you are worth under $200.00. I don't even get the recurring billing from the work that I DID for your site, a site in which you said you got maybe 2 signups in the month just before I took it over. I think you should think twice about starting a war with me here, or I will stop payment on the checks that have been sent to you, to cover the legal costs of any law suit that may be incurred from your public slander. Webmasters, think twice about working with candicam, or at least, make sure that you sign a contract with her before you do any work for her. That was my biggest mistake. __________________ Make Money with METHOD CASH - 100% ASIAN SITES - EXCLUSIVE AND HIGH QUALITY [email protected]

08-15-2002, 04:38 PM	#24
GoodChris Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 454	Just so that there is no confusion, Evil Chris and I are 2 very different people. Sorry if your name got confused in here bro. __________________ Make Money with METHOD CASH - 100% ASIAN SITES - EXCLUSIVE AND HIGH QUALITY [email protected]

08-15-2002, 04:38 PM	#25
Jakke PNG ex-TeenGodFather Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suomi Finland Perkele Posts: 20,306	What makes this thread peachy and dandy is the fact that now neither of you have credibility. We have no way of knowing who's the sack of shit, so I assume you both are. __________________ ..and I'm off.

08-15-2002, 04:39 PM	#26
GoodChris Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 454	Well if anyone from epoch wishes to do a datadump for the dates from may 13th to 14th, I'm sure that would show what was done. __________________ Make Money with METHOD CASH - 100% ASIAN SITES - EXCLUSIVE AND HIGH QUALITY [email protected]

08-15-2002, 04:42 PM	#27
Moose Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Here Posts: 1,548	I know wich way I go.

08-15-2002, 04:43 PM	#28
candicam Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 6	Chris you can say what you want. The bottom line is you owe me $. PERIOD Yes I cancelled those memberships. Why should I let you collect recurring memberships from people that signed up for me....not you, when it was clear you were yanking my chain anyway? I would think someone of your caliber and expertise in this industry wouldnt be snivelling over 20 lousy memberships anyway, much less only $438. And by the way, you have your figures wrong, I get more signups on my own, before and after you and I met. If you think you are justified in keeping the $, fine you can have it. But quit lying to me month after month. Either way its just lame business and you know it. And Im not here to solicit for anyone to do business with me, just to warn them about you. Oh and nice threat to stop payment to a check thats not in the mail.

08-15-2002, 04:57 PM	#29
GoodChris Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 454	Well lets just make it public as soon as you get your checks the same way that you made it public when its taken a little too long. __________________ Make Money with METHOD CASH - 100% ASIAN SITES - EXCLUSIVE AND HIGH QUALITY [email protected]

08-15-2002, 05:01 PM	#30
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	I'm confused now. Where does the oral sex come into this? Did he cum when he said he wouldn't? Bugger the money I wanna know about the oral sex! __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

08-15-2002, 05:09 PM	#31
GoodChris Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 454	PornoPete, I wouldn't stop the payments, thats not my style. I said that out of frustration. I just wish that rather than air dirty laundry without realizing what she did to me, she would've thought about it first. I mailed checks to her last Tuesday. I am in Canada and she is in the US. It can take 10 business days for checks to arrive. I don't think waiting 7 business days was worthy of public slander. I work with other people and never has anyone done what she did to me. Now I have to reconsider my business model once again to make sure that this doesn't happen again. I will admit that I could have sent her the checks sooner, but had she not shut off the billing and cancelled all of the clients on me, she and I would have 0 issues right now. I was a little peeved by the whole affair. __________________ Make Money with METHOD CASH - 100% ASIAN SITES - EXCLUSIVE AND HIGH QUALITY [email protected]

08-15-2002, 05:25 PM	#32
GoodChris Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 454	I agree with you 100%. __________________ Make Money with METHOD CASH - 100% ASIAN SITES - EXCLUSIVE AND HIGH QUALITY [email protected]

08-15-2002, 06:23 PM	#34
candicam Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 6	I have to agree with you, but I refuse to get fuct again in this industry and just roll over like it didnt happen.

08-15-2002, 09:32 PM	#36
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	This is the point in the thread where I like to stop by and point out that when people have pissing matches like this, both of them lose reputation. In general, I would say that the satisfaction you get out of defending your own side is not worth the harm done by everyone seeing your dirty laundry. Attacking someone else, and them attacking back, make you look bad. Each side gets double trouble. __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.