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Old 07-17-2002, 05:38 AM   #1
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fuck tgps,free sites n' paysites

http://www.pixripper.com/

does your tgps and free sites offer photos without having any advertisement?

does your paysite competes them in the billing system?

they accept:

Visa
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American Express
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Old 07-17-2002, 05:50 AM   #2
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is it possible to block the "User Agent"???


i have the memberarea pix saved outside the web root and get them with php - it slows down the website, but each pic is named: pix.php and most programs dont recognize it as pic
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Old 07-17-2002, 05:51 AM   #3
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Jesus, not another one. Those morons should be shot.
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Old 07-17-2002, 05:52 AM   #4
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is it possible to block the "User Agent"???


i have the memberarea pix saved outside the web root and get them with php - it slows down the website, but each pic is named: pix.php and most programs dont recognize it as pic
That's the problem. Most of those programs bullshit the server. Most look like a legit browser.
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Old 07-17-2002, 05:53 AM   #5
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Jesus, not another one. Those morons should be shot.
I'll gladly donate the bullets & gun!
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Old 07-17-2002, 05:54 AM   #6
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"is it possible to block the "User Agent"???

... I kinda doubt it, if the tool is well programmed it shows up as a webbrowser in your logs ... actually, I could think about creating one of those tools (combined with an internet eraser) myself ... should sell great !!!
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Old 07-17-2002, 06:05 AM   #7
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this is terrible... what can we do to stop it? sooner or later this program will be given away for free and we're doomed.
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Old 07-17-2002, 06:08 AM   #8
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the scary thing is that's heavily advertised at major SEs and features at download.com as adult pictures grabber.
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Old 07-17-2002, 06:22 AM   #9
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Old 07-17-2002, 06:27 AM   #10
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What you don't like my new product? It's TGP3 it will be big!

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Old 07-17-2002, 06:29 AM   #11
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Soul, stop spamming you fucking moron. Now 'tis finally clear how you make the millions
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Old 07-17-2002, 07:02 AM   #12
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have you seen the screenshots? you can chose different extensions, but i dont see ".php"....

anyone knows whether i am save or not yet? ;))
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Old 07-17-2002, 07:35 AM   #13
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damn....
Hate stuff like that!!!
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Old 07-17-2002, 07:51 AM   #14
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In theory we could band together and img src the site. With enough adult webmasters helping out I bet we could throw 10 million+ hits a day at them.

I only suggest that because those fucking idiots run a spider that downloads our content and skips the ads. Burns our bandwidth and wastes out money.

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Old 07-17-2002, 08:28 AM   #15
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Damn that certainly sucks...

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Well there are literally hundreds of sites on the Internet called Thumbnail Gallery Posts (TGP). These web sites link to thousands of pages of free adult pictures and videos. Why pay for expensive adult subscription sites when there is all this free content available on a TGP?

But, there are plenty of those programs out there...

I would think people will stop this sort of stuff soon. Since we know have .jpg viruses and other beasties out there for people who just download stuff via a spider. The "pixripper" folks aren't doing mr. surfer any favors...

How can something like this ascertain visible links from "invisible" links?

The first tgp owner who has enough of their spider may put up a surprise for them. You'll get a wave of these people in their support forums charging back.

Just my

Edited to make it clear I DON'T condone viruses. It is obvious that this type of program is not robots.txt compliant and will be exploited in some fashion.

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Old 07-17-2002, 08:36 AM   #16
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Hidden virus sounds better.
That is a nice solution
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Old 07-17-2002, 09:11 AM   #17
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I say we do a mass img src.. i am sure the hun would join in
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Old 07-17-2002, 09:22 AM   #18
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Old 07-17-2002, 09:28 AM   #19
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Would anyone like to know how to stop these kinds of programs dead in their tracks ????
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Old 07-17-2002, 09:52 AM   #20
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Would anyone like to know how to stop these kinds of programs dead in their tracks ????
Want to give us a clue?
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Old 07-17-2002, 10:21 AM   #21
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&lt;form action="picture.jpg"&gt;
&lt;input type="image" src="picture_thumb.jpg"&gt;
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The downside is that any site that does a check on your pic's i.e. the hun won't let you thru So I guess you have to ask yourself if you really think that many people are using web suckers on the TGP's and if your loosing $$$'s. We use it on the paysites that we have trials on so that they can't grab the whole site for a couple of bucks, pisses a lot of the scumbags off that only get a trial to grab the site, but who really gives a fuck what they think


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Old 07-17-2002, 10:48 AM   #22
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You probably want to edit that out of this thread...
so they don't see that when they come in here from their logs.

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Old 07-17-2002, 10:52 AM   #23
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You probably want to edit that out of this thread...
so they don't see that when they come in here from their logs.

The specific thread won't show as a referrer in their stats - it wil just show
http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php

They may decide to come here and click around... if they even bother to check their referrers. ;-)
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Old 08-14-2002, 10:35 PM   #24
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That's the problem. Most of those programs bullshit the server. Most look like a legit browser.
No shit! Unless they're someone out there with a browser that's actually named "Mozilla by Wal-Mart Made in China" who can do a GET on 100 files a second, I do believe some will let you tell it you want it to look like anything you want it to.

Since in your robots.txt file you have to describe the default for EACH and EVERY damn spider they ever came up with, you're only going to stop people who are too dumb to look at the options in their spider app.

Anyone who knows enough to spider you is probably going to be able to change the name to something you don't already have in there within 2 minutes.

I gave up on the spiders. They're not the ones who REALLY jurt. The ones that piss me off are the ones that hot link to files. One fucker in Holland linked to one of my files and ate up about 5 gigs in one day.

I think I came up with a way to turn that around though.

Oh well...

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Old 08-14-2002, 11:13 PM   #25
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There has to be some way around this.
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Old 08-14-2002, 11:17 PM   #26
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I doubt many people own the program.
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Old 08-14-2002, 11:19 PM   #27
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thats where all ur nocookie ucj hits come from

ive known this for a long time and luckily protected myself early :c)
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Old 08-14-2002, 11:23 PM   #28
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Old 08-14-2002, 11:26 PM   #29
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I doubt many people own the program.
I agree. The average surfer doesn't have a clue.
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Old 08-14-2002, 11:28 PM   #30
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Old 08-15-2002, 12:12 AM   #31
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"I do gallery posts and have to pay for bandwidth. How will you be compensating me for your users going in and taking images (which I also shoot and have to pay the models)and me not recieving any money due to them not seeing my adverts or joining my site?"

This just send to there support staff.
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Old 08-15-2002, 12:16 AM   #32
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I doubt many people own the program.
wrong,he buys expensive advertisment in many places and he sells many many pieces/day
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Old 08-15-2002, 12:26 AM   #33
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Old 08-15-2002, 10:52 AM   #34
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wrong,he buys expensive advertisment in many places and he sells many many pieces/day
Hell, let's all get the app, and spider the fuck out of his site with it. Isn't there some liability issue with a developer who designs a piece of software designed to steal another developer's product?

People are suing Smith & Wesson because some hozer decided to blow someone away with a product they created, so what's the difference? Someone uses a product to commit a crime, and the original manufacturer of the product gets sued. Isn't America beautiful?

I just think if he were on the RECEIVING end of his own product and had a few thousand people spider his site a day he'd look at it differently.

Then again, I'm just thinking out loud. I'd never advocate such a thing... Uh uh, nope, no way...

Then again, if someone had a lawyer who'd file a suit against the manufacturer for complicity in a crime (enabling theft), that would at least be entertaining.

Oh well, it's raining like hell here so I don't have much else to do but think of shit like this.

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"I do gallery posts and have to pay for bandwidth. How will you be compensating me for your users going in and taking images (which I also shoot and have to pay the models)and me not recieving any money due to them not seeing my adverts or joining my site?"

This just send to there support staff.
Did you get a reply?
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Old 08-15-2002, 11:05 AM   #36
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Another program like that?
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Old 08-15-2002, 11:31 AM   #37
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um, won't internet explorer do this out of the box? offline exploring or something?

anyways, this is nothing new, although it is getting worse. we've had to set up some scripts that will temporarily block certain IPs if they spider too much content.

edit:

btw. it won't be long til there is such a program that can take advantage of a central list of open web proxies. (the programmers aren't stupid, so they already know this). a real solution is needed.

perhaps pre-pended unique IDs for each "session". the spider program would have to send the same unique ID for each hit. then you could throttle that unique ID. the only way to get the ID would be to go through the homepage (or some other special link).

for example, you go to http://www.cumoninn.com/index.html and you're redirected to http://www.cumoninn.com/0129738243/index.html

every link on that site (that stays within the site) would need that prepend number. so it'd be a "unique" session ID.

the only way around this would be to write the spider so it loads the home page before it loads any other link beyond it, to generate tons of unique IDs. maybe something could be created to block this too. anyways, it's a start, and this has been a silly brain dump.
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Old 08-15-2002, 12:46 PM   #38
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Are they Russian chiters?
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Old 08-15-2002, 01:46 PM   #39
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Only 20000 downloads, these programs have been around for a long time but never seem to get popular.
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Old 08-15-2002, 01:51 PM   #40
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if worse came to worse
you could use an image like yahoo does that the user has to type in to prevent a robot.

go sign up for a mail account at yahoo youll see what i mean

fuckers!
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Old 08-15-2002, 01:52 PM   #41
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im not sure i understand how these programs are legal... true we are giving away porn, but isnt there something else going on when they just dig thru ur server downloading your files without looking at your site or asking permission? i mean technically when a surfer looks at your site they arent specifically saving the files for use later... with this program they are storing your images on their machines...

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