How to make money 'made in China' - GoFuckYourself.com

emjay · 04-10-2007, 05:47 AM

With over 1.3 billion inhabitants, about one-fifth of the world's population, China is the world?s most populous nation and is experiencing exponential growth in practically all areas ? including internet usage. Some 137m people, about 10% of the overall population, are already online, and this figure is expected to grow rapidly in the next few years ? making it arguably the world?s most attractive market in the long term.

The sheer size and potential afforded by this vast market are simply too big to ignore. One study recently concluded that China is already the world?s largest consumer of (offline) porn.

When it comes to online, your entire business model will need to be adjusted to accommodate the unique characteristics of this market.

For starters, porn is technically illegal in China. The Chinese authorities do their best to censor the internet, a task which can never be realised due to its organic growth. To check if you have been blocked, go to www.greatfirewallofchina.org ? if so, Chinese surfers are taken to a decidedly unsexy page of the ?Ministry of Fisheries and Agriculture?.

Despite a growing Internet-savvy middle class, online purchases in China have been slow to take off with traditional payment systems. Credit card-based payment systems that succeeded in North America and Europe have proven ineffective in China, where credit card usage remains low. Even more important than credit card penetration rates, is the issue of trust between buyers and sellers in a business environment where personal relationships and cash-based transactions have served as the traditional means of securing and settling a deal.

Furthermore, wages in China are low. A white collar Manager can expect to earn about $500 a month. Thus, selling a $29.90 monthly credit card subscription to him is futile on two counts : It is very unlikely he has one and even if he did, the subscription would represent an enormous proportion of his overall disposable income.

Clearly, cash is not suitable for web transactions. However, there is one payment device that practically all Chinese have access to ? the phone. Indeed, cellphone penetration in China is beginning to rival those of more developed markets.

Since the payouts available via such billing are less, you simply give them less time. After all, a monthly subscription usually equates to about a cost of about a dollar a day. So give them (say) 24 hours access if they pay you this way.

Another important consideration is that of language. Only about a quarter of Chinese learn English at high school, so it is imperative that you communicate with your new prospective clients in a language they understand ? theirs!

Your phone processor should be able to provide you with geo-ip tools that will enable you to easily accomplish this. If not, you should consider switching to one that does.

Then, and only then, can you start to make money ?made in China?

Bloomer · 04-10-2007, 06:21 AM

Go CHINA.........

Tim · 04-10-2007, 02:21 PM

Interesting info - we'll talk soon

Webby · 04-10-2007, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emjay

With over 1.3 billion inhabitants, about one-fifth of the world's population, China is the world?s most populous nation and is experiencing exponential growth in practically all areas ? including internet usage. Some 137m people, about 10% of the overall population, are already online, and this figure is expected to grow rapidly in the next few years ? making it arguably the world?s most attractive market in the long term.

The sheer size and potential afforded by this vast market are simply too big to ignore. One study recently concluded that China is already the world?s largest consumer of (offline) porn.

Started reading to the end of the second para emjay and thought, - this sounds like someone in the audiotext biz

Agree

Dveron · 04-10-2007, 02:33 PM

Entered one of my site urls on that Great fire wall of China site and got a popup from Firefox saying the site is designed to trick people into entering information that can be used in id theft. Hmm.

RegUser · 04-10-2007, 03:43 PM

your system could work great emjay if it allowed mobile phone owners to buy a subscription to a site for a fixed time by one time billing.
But as I understand you are unable to do that and instead clients have to call international numbers for which webmasters can't charge like 40 bucks for a month. right?

emjay · 04-10-2007, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RegUser

your system could work great emjay if it allowed mobile phone owners to buy a subscription to a site for a fixed time by one time billing.
But as I understand you are unable to do that and instead clients have to call international numbers for which webmasters can't charge like 40 bucks for a month. right?

Our system DOES allow mobile (cell) owners to buy a subscription for a time duration of your choosing.

Once he enjoys the content, the billing clock is no longer ticking. He "buys time".

Such is not suited for billing $40 (monthly) subscriptions, but it is a great way to bill for daily memberships or trials.

emjay · 04-11-2007, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby

Started reading to the end of the second para emjay and thought, - this sounds like someone in the audiotext biz

Agree

guilty as charged

emjay · 06-29-2007, 01:03 AM

A McKinsey report exploring the value of China's emerging middle class can be found here:

http://www.mckinseyquarterly.com/art... srid=63&gp=0

Reak AGV · 07-01-2007, 03:51 PM

Interesting read Emjay, thanks

TTiger · 07-01-2007, 04:28 PM

interesting read ! thank you

TTiger · 07-01-2007, 04:29 PM

i have tons of traffic commin for china tryiing to hotlining my galleries
whats should i do with this traffic?

Nicky · 07-01-2007, 04:32 PM

Alternative billing is king

emjay · 07-01-2007, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TTiger

i have tons of traffic commin for china tryiing to hotlining my galleries
whats should i do with this traffic?

Hi there TTiger : Simply send it to the site(s) that best suit the underlying traffic see:
http://www.password-by-phone.com/content_sites.php and scroll down

RawAlex · 07-01-2007, 04:41 PM

While much of what Emjay posts is interesting, it fails to address the relative costs of porn in the western world versus emerging markets, and how cost versus performance may not be up to our usual standards.

But hey, as long as the board tolerates this spam, I guess...

emjay · 02-25-2008, 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

While much of what Emjay posts is interesting, it fails to address the relative costs of porn in the western world versus emerging markets, and how cost versus performance may not be up to our usual standards.

Hey RawAlex, this might help ;-)

smutsellers · 02-25-2008, 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TTiger

i have tons of traffic commin for china tryiing to hotlining my galleries
whats should i do with this traffic?

you can send it to me

G.A.F · 02-25-2008, 04:52 AM

Very informative. Thanks.

emjay · 02-25-2008, 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smutsellers

you can send it to me

Or here ;-)

The Judge · 02-25-2008, 05:18 AM

Idiots, Chinese don't buy anything that can be downloaded or copied even if it costs 1 penny, they also don't but from non-Chinese. Only thing that will come out of trying to push porn on that market is 500,000 new super hardworking affiliates competing with you.

emjay · 03-02-2008, 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Judge

Idiots, Chinese don't buy anything that can be downloaded or copied even if it costs 1 penny, they also don't but from non-Chinese.

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xmas13 · 03-02-2008, 03:33 AM

"Online pornography remains illegal in China" - 2007
"Pornography is illegal in China" - 2008

raven1083 · 03-02-2008, 03:47 AM

Thanks for that information, guy!

viencarl · 03-03-2008, 07:21 AM

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DjiXas · 03-03-2008, 07:26 AM

Um.... OK....

ManuelX · 03-13-2008, 08:13 AM

Use our phone billing system, it covers China, worlwide access, weekly payouts.

emjay · 03-16-2008, 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xmas13

"Online pornography remains illegal in China" - 2007
"Pornography is illegal in China" - 2008

That's why I was surprised by DirtyWhiteBoys's recent post which he posted from there in which he said:

"after eating pizza I went to what may be the largest net cafe in the world. 1000s of desks, side by side, several floors and PACKED with Chinese looking at... PORN!!! Wasting your bandwidth. It was insane. Almost every screen I could see had porn on it."

Multimedia · 03-16-2008, 05:57 AM

Porn being illegal would be very bad. Well hopefully our new president doesn't try and sign no sticken bills.

emjay · 03-24-2008, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emjay

Hey RawAlex, this might help ;-)

FYI www.goodtao.com is now open for business...

D · 03-24-2008, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emjay

For starters, porn is technically illegal in China.

See... that fact when it's in regards to a country that regularly executes people for _white collar_ crimes, and a country that is responsible for more than 2/3's of the world's executions in any given year makes me go:

risk vs. reward?

I'd hate to travel to see the Great Wall 10 years from now only to find myself incarcerated.

tranza · 03-24-2008, 10:47 AM

Nice read..

04-10-2007, 05:47 AM	#1
emjay Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Back in Blighty Posts: 4,277	How to make money 'made in China' With over 1.3 billion inhabitants, about one-fifth of the world's population, China is the world?s most populous nation and is experiencing exponential growth in practically all areas ? including internet usage. Some 137m people, about 10% of the overall population, are already online, and this figure is expected to grow rapidly in the next few years ? making it arguably the world?s most attractive market in the long term. The sheer size and potential afforded by this vast market are simply too big to ignore. One study recently concluded that China is already the world?s largest consumer of (offline) porn. When it comes to online, your entire business model will need to be adjusted to accommodate the unique characteristics of this market. For starters, porn is technically illegal in China. The Chinese authorities do their best to censor the internet, a task which can never be realised due to its organic growth. To check if you have been blocked, go to www.greatfirewallofchina.org ? if so, Chinese surfers are taken to a decidedly unsexy page of the ?Ministry of Fisheries and Agriculture?. Despite a growing Internet-savvy middle class, online purchases in China have been slow to take off with traditional payment systems. Credit card-based payment systems that succeeded in North America and Europe have proven ineffective in China, where credit card usage remains low. Even more important than credit card penetration rates, is the issue of trust between buyers and sellers in a business environment where personal relationships and cash-based transactions have served as the traditional means of securing and settling a deal. Furthermore, wages in China are low. A white collar Manager can expect to earn about $500 a month. Thus, selling a $29.90 monthly credit card subscription to him is futile on two counts : It is very unlikely he has one and even if he did, the subscription would represent an enormous proportion of his overall disposable income. Clearly, cash is not suitable for web transactions. However, there is one payment device that practically all Chinese have access to ? the phone. Indeed, cellphone penetration in China is beginning to rival those of more developed markets. Since the payouts available via such billing are less, you simply give them less time. After all, a monthly subscription usually equates to about a cost of about a dollar a day. So give them (say) 24 hours access if they pay you this way. Another important consideration is that of language. Only about a quarter of Chinese learn English at high school, so it is imperative that you communicate with your new prospective clients in a language they understand ? theirs! Your phone processor should be able to provide you with geo-ip tools that will enable you to easily accomplish this. If not, you should consider switching to one that does. Then, and only then, can you start to make money ?made in China? __________________ I Run 500+ WhatsApp Groups. The Zuck Owns Me www.emjayconsultancy.com

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