ASP.NET impacting adult business ? - GoFuckYourself.com

08-15-2002, 02:29 AM

Don't know much about it, but from what I heard it seems to be quite powerful and advanced.

Does anyone see ASP.NET or the entire .NET framework impactíng into the adult business ?

gothweb · 08-15-2002, 02:42 AM

.NET is a way for Microsoft to charge a monthly/annual subscription for software that people are used to getting forever for one payment. This is not about how the technology is useful, it is about ways to use hot new buzzwords to overcharge people. Why the hell do I want to use Office over the net? Send me a CD, I'll install it on my machine. Thanks.

As such, my optimistic answer is that .NET will fail, and won't impact anyone much at all. However, I am fully aware that people are idiots, so it will probably make Microsoft billions.

On the up side, if people are willing to pay monthly fees for software, it should make selling them porn that much easier. "You bought Office.NET, right? And how often does it change? If you sign up for our site, you get new pics three times a week. How's that?"

flashfreak · 08-15-2002, 02:49 AM

gothweb: I think exactly the same.
who the fuck will pay mothly for their crap when you have staroffice and tons of other aplications for free?

mike503 · 08-15-2002, 03:17 AM

.NET has some cool nextgen shit in it that existing MS languages don't have. it's also cool in how multiple source codes in multiple MS languages can be compiled in the same byte code (thus exploiting the strengths of certain languages)

but it's still a MS product and marketing initiative.. i don't think it's any different then when they rolled out their last overhaul of their tools. it's just the next generation of shit.

edmo · 08-15-2002, 03:24 AM

corporations are the ones who will pay for .net. the public already has .net accounts when they signup for hotmail. ebay is using it for god sakes. and it's integrated into windows xp. as office and the new windows file system switch to .net you'll have less choice about whether you want to use .net or not. in the future if you want to edit a .doc, do a ppt presentation, or share microsoft xml you'll first be paying the digital taxman.

oh and staroffice is no longer free:
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-923039.html

08-15-2002, 03:25 AM

I'm not talking about Office Apps or other client based software. I didn't even know that M$ wanted to get into this subscription shit. Fuck that, by the time Office.NET will come around, I'll scream out "GIMME OPEN SOURCE" and M$ can suck my cock

What I meant were the webserver applications that will probably be quite useful in the future. I'm not sure if we'll see trading scripts running on the .NET platform - since I'm not a specialist, I can't tell.
All I know is that a friend of mine sees a big future for ASP.NET in webserver applications, and I wonder if and when major players in this biz will take the step towards .NET.

faytl · 08-15-2002, 03:34 AM

As far as the web side of things go, as long as people stick by opensource products like Apache, PHP, Perl as the majority of webservers already do it will be fine.

To base something proprietry (.NET) on an open protocols and standards (HTML/HTTP/etc) is just stupid, cause as soon as the proprietry product gets an edge it will be cut down by an opensource product performing/emulating the same function.

.NET is much more though, but it's nothing to worry about really... just marketing hype that shouldn't really take that longer to die down.

bawdy · 08-15-2002, 03:43 AM

.NET its another development methodology and technology architecture.

Seems to me one of the big stumbling block with .NET and other NT based technologies for broader acceptance in the adult industry is what you can achieve with .htaccess.

In terms of application development where .htaccess is not important .NET offers many positive cost benefits.

titmowse · 08-15-2002, 03:54 AM

is dis whatchu talkin about willis?

"ASP+ (also called ASP.NET), is the next generation of Microsoft's Active Server Page (ASP), a feature of their Internet Information Server (IIS). Both ASP and ASP+ allow a Web site builder to dynamically build Web pages on the fly by inserting queries to a relational database in the Web page. ASP+ is different than its predecessor in two major ways: it supports code written in compiled languages such as Visual Basic, C++, C#, and Perl, and it features server controls that can separate the code from the content, allowing WYSIWYG editing of pages. Although ASP+ is not backwards compatible with ASP, it is able to run side by side with ASP applications. ASP+ files can be recognized by their .aspx extension."
- Tech Target

08-15-2002, 03:56 AM

Yup tit, that's exactly what I'm talking bout !

Osholio · 08-15-2002, 04:02 AM

ASP.NET (and the whole .NET caboodle) have a lot going for it. It has arguably the most productive development environment going, Visual Studio.NET, excellent debugging facilities and an extensive and largely well designed class library.

However, it has one major stumbling block: it only runs on Windows.

Anyone who runs something as tempting to the script kiddies as a porn site on a Windows box that you know is going to be rooted by this week's IIS exploit du jour frankly needs their head examining.

.NET is perhaps the best way to write windows apps available right now.

For websites, I'll stick to Linux/Unix and PHP, at least I have a lot more control.

faytl · 08-15-2002, 08:01 AM

PHP + Zend Studio work wonders when put together as an IDE, and a well documented class library is always a bonus, but I see a lack of organisation for outweighs something being proprietry and closed source.

MS just never seem to get it right when it comes to programming... for example if you are writing a windows application, in my opinion it is far easier using a non MS framework (eg; C++/QT) rather than an MS framework (C++/MFC).

So i don't agree with .NET perhaps being the best way to write anything at the moment...

08-15-2002, 02:29 AM	#1
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	ASP.NET impacting adult business ? Don't know much about it, but from what I heard it seems to be quite powerful and advanced. Does anyone see ASP.NET or the entire .NET framework impactíng into the adult business ?

08-15-2002, 02:42 AM	#2
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	.NET is a way for Microsoft to charge a monthly/annual subscription for software that people are used to getting forever for one payment. This is not about how the technology is useful, it is about ways to use hot new buzzwords to overcharge people. Why the hell do I want to use Office over the net? Send me a CD, I'll install it on my machine. Thanks. As such, my optimistic answer is that .NET will fail, and won't impact anyone much at all. However, I am fully aware that people are idiots, so it will probably make Microsoft billions. On the up side, if people are willing to pay monthly fees for software, it should make selling them porn that much easier. "You bought Office.NET, right? And how often does it change? If you sign up for our site, you get new pics three times a week. How's that?" __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

08-15-2002, 02:49 AM	#3
flashfreak Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: cloud number 9 Posts: 4,396	gothweb: I think exactly the same. who the fuck will pay mothly for their crap when you have staroffice and tons of other aplications for free? __________________ SEO Mogul \| ICQ: 163671223

08-15-2002, 03:17 AM	#4
mike503 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: oregon. Posts: 2,243	.NET has some cool nextgen shit in it that existing MS languages don't have. it's also cool in how multiple source codes in multiple MS languages can be compiled in the same byte code (thus exploiting the strengths of certain languages) but it's still a MS product and marketing initiative.. i don't think it's any different then when they rolled out their last overhaul of their tools. it's just the next generation of shit. __________________ php/mysql guru. hosting, coding, all that jazz.

08-15-2002, 03:54 AM	#9
titmowse Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: TEXAS Posts: 5,320	is dis whatchu talkin about willis? "ASP+ (also called ASP.NET), is the next generation of Microsoft's Active Server Page (ASP), a feature of their Internet Information Server (IIS). Both ASP and ASP+ allow a Web site builder to dynamically build Web pages on the fly by inserting queries to a relational database in the Web page. ASP+ is different than its predecessor in two major ways: it supports code written in compiled languages such as Visual Basic, C++, C#, and Perl, and it features server controls that can separate the code from the content, allowing WYSIWYG editing of pages. Although ASP+ is not backwards compatible with ASP, it is able to run side by side with ASP applications. ASP+ files can be recognized by their .aspx extension." - Tech Target __________________ I still love everybody

08-15-2002, 03:24 AM	#5
edmo Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SanHo Posts: 359	corporations are the ones who will pay for .net. the public already has .net accounts when they signup for hotmail. ebay is using it for god sakes. and it's integrated into windows xp. as office and the new windows file system switch to .net you'll have less choice about whether you want to use .net or not. in the future if you want to edit a .doc, do a ppt presentation, or share microsoft xml you'll first be paying the digital taxman. oh and staroffice is no longer free: http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-923039.html

08-15-2002, 03:25 AM	#6
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	I'm not talking about Office Apps or other client based software. I didn't even know that M$ wanted to get into this subscription shit. Fuck that, by the time Office.NET will come around, I'll scream out "GIMME OPEN SOURCE" and M$ can suck my cock What I meant were the webserver applications that will probably be quite useful in the future. I'm not sure if we'll see trading scripts running on the .NET platform - since I'm not a specialist, I can't tell. All I know is that a friend of mine sees a big future for ASP.NET in webserver applications, and I wonder if and when major players in this biz will take the step towards .NET.

08-15-2002, 03:34 AM	#7
faytl Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 121	As far as the web side of things go, as long as people stick by opensource products like Apache, PHP, Perl as the majority of webservers already do it will be fine. To base something proprietry (.NET) on an open protocols and standards (HTML/HTTP/etc) is just stupid, cause as soon as the proprietry product gets an edge it will be cut down by an opensource product performing/emulating the same function. .NET is much more though, but it's nothing to worry about really... just marketing hype that shouldn't really take that longer to die down.

08-15-2002, 03:43 AM	#8
bawdy Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,424	.NET its another development methodology and technology architecture. Seems to me one of the big stumbling block with .NET and other NT based technologies for broader acceptance in the adult industry is what you can achieve with .htaccess. In terms of application development where .htaccess is not important .NET offers many positive cost benefits.

08-15-2002, 03:56 AM	#10
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	Yup tit, that's exactly what I'm talking bout !

08-15-2002, 04:02 AM	#11
Osholio Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: UK Posts: 99	ASP.NET (and the whole .NET caboodle) have a lot going for it. It has arguably the most productive development environment going, Visual Studio.NET, excellent debugging facilities and an extensive and largely well designed class library. However, it has one major stumbling block: it only runs on Windows. Anyone who runs something as tempting to the script kiddies as a porn site on a Windows box that you know is going to be rooted by this week's IIS exploit du jour frankly needs their head examining. .NET is perhaps the best way to write windows apps available right now. For websites, I'll stick to Linux/Unix and PHP, at least I have a lot more control.

08-15-2002, 08:01 AM	#12
faytl Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 121	PHP + Zend Studio work wonders when put together as an IDE, and a well documented class library is always a bonus, but I see a lack of organisation for outweighs something being proprietry and closed source. MS just never seem to get it right when it comes to programming... for example if you are writing a windows application, in my opinion it is far easier using a non MS framework (eg; C++/QT) rather than an MS framework (C++/MFC). So i don't agree with .NET perhaps being the best way to write anything at the moment...