Boy dont you right wingers feel stupid now

[tony286]

Pentagon report debunks prewar Iraq-Al Qaeda connection
http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0406/p99s01-duts.html

[DamageX]

Don't hold your breath.

[Shakula]

Splum

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[Splum]

Lol like this "justifies" anything? Even the report above acknowledges Zarqawi set up his terrorist group in Iraq before the US invasion.


You guys crack me up whenever the Democrats declassify a document that only serves their viewpoint. Did you know there are hundreds of other documents that are still classified that suggest Saddam was notified and allowed Zarqawi to get free treatment for his wounds the US inflicted upon him in Afghanistan full well knowing he was the leader of a terrorist group. Besides there were MANY reasons we had a right to invade Iraq.

[Splum]

Originally Posted by Shakula

Splum 1 2 3 ..

If you would have said 3.. 2.. 1.. I would have gotten here sooner you fucking terrorist. You can alluah ahkbar on my cock.

[Shakula]

Originally Posted by Splum

If you would have said 3.. 2.. 1.. I would have gotten here sooner you fucking terrorist. You can alluah ahkbar on my cock.

I was not counting down idiot, i was counting how many seconds it would take before you show up.

Im a terrorist? Im not the one promoting war, am i?
So shut the fuck up.

[12clicks]

dopey kids.

http://www.intelmessages.org/Message...sages/826.html

"""Two Iraqi Military defectors, an unnamed former Lt. General and a Captain Sabah Khodada recently gave details of an Iraqi school at Salman Pak which includes training for the hijacking of passenger airliners and other modes of transportation. The former Iraqi General said that there was a old Boeing 707 resting next to rail tracks on edge of Salman Pak being used in terrorist training, the existence of this aircraft has been confirmed by UN. Inspectors.

The General, who had been the Security Officer in charge of the camp also reported that there were mixed nationality units including Saudi‘s, Egyptians and Chechens at Salman Pak. Usually about 40 strong, these terrorist units received upto five months of intensive training. However the terrorist units were actually under the control of Iraq‘s Al- Mukhabarat Intelligence Service and in particular a section called the Division of Special Operations. Much of this was also confirmed by Captain Khodada.

The foreign fighters were segregated from Iraqi military personnel and Saddam Husseins own Fedayeen, except during certain specific training sessions. The overall training program included assassination, kidnapping, sabotage or hijacking of aircraft, buses, trains, sabotage of public utilities and most importantly of all, in the use of Chemical, Biological and possibly crude nuclear devices.

However, the training also included how to prepare and carry out suicide attacks and involved how to get access to the flight cabin, getting weapons on board, security weakness, terrorizing the passengers and crew. Captain Khodada stated " Those ‘Arabs‘ are real volunteers. They come in small numbers, and they come with the intention to do some real suicidal operations. "

" It has been said openly in the (Iraqi)media and even to us, from the highest command, that the purpose of establishing of establishing Saddam’s Fedayeen Fighters is to attack American targets and American interests. This is known. There is no doubt about it. All this training is directed towards attacking American targets, and American interests." """""

[Webby]

Originally Posted by Shakula

I was not counting down idiot, i was counting how many seconds it would take before you show up.

Im a terrorist? Im not the one promoting war, am i?
So shut the fuck up.

It's really hard to spot the clueless and sickos on GFY eh?

Even if they said "Good day" - you'd have to get a weather report and confirm the specific weather conditions - they'd even argue over them, given any leeway *lol*

[tony286]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

dopey kids.

http://www.intelmessages.org/Message...sages/826.html

"""Two Iraqi Military defectors, an unnamed former Lt. General and a Captain Sabah Khodada recently gave details of an Iraqi school at Salman Pak which includes training for the hijacking of passenger airliners and other modes of transportation. The former Iraqi General said that there was a old Boeing 707 resting next to rail tracks on edge of Salman Pak being used in terrorist training, the existence of this aircraft has been confirmed by UN. Inspectors.

The General, who had been the Security Officer in charge of the camp also reported that there were mixed nationality units including Saudi?s, Egyptians and Chechens at Salman Pak. Usually about 40 strong, these terrorist units received upto five months of intensive training. However the terrorist units were actually under the control of Iraq?s Al- Mukhabarat Intelligence Service and in particular a section called the Division of Special Operations. Much of this was also confirmed by Captain Khodada.

The foreign fighters were segregated from Iraqi military personnel and Saddam Husseins own Fedayeen, except during certain specific training sessions. The overall training program included assassination, kidnapping, sabotage or hijacking of aircraft, buses, trains, sabotage of public utilities and most importantly of all, in the use of Chemical, Biological and possibly crude nuclear devices.

However, the training also included how to prepare and carry out suicide attacks and involved how to get access to the flight cabin, getting weapons on board, security weakness, terrorizing the passengers and crew. Captain Khodada stated " Those ?Arabs? are real volunteers. They come in small numbers, and they come with the intention to do some real suicidal operations. "

" It has been said openly in the (Iraqi)media and even to us, from the highest command, that the purpose of establishing of establishing Saddam?s Fedayeen Fighters is to attack American targets and American interests. This is known. There is no doubt about it. All this training is directed towards attacking American targets, and American interests." """""

do you have any examples from real places like the pentagon? The rest is bullshit.

[stickyfingerz]

"[Abu Musab al-Zarqawi] took up residence there before we ever launched into Iraq, organized the al-Qaeda operations inside Iraq before we even arrived on the scene and then, of course, led the charge for Iraq until we killed him last June, As I say, they were present before we invaded Iraq."

[Splum]

Saddam financed terrorist homicide bombers

The hall was packed and the intake of breath was audible as a special announcement was made to the war widows of the West Bank - Saddam Hussein would pay $US25,000 ($47,000) to the family of each suicide bomber as an enticement for others to volunteer for martyrdom in the name of the Palestinian people.

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/...004766310.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/...in505316.shtml
etc etc etc

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by tony404

do you have any examples from real places like the pentagon? The rest is bullshit.

typical tony404

[Webby]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

dopey kids.

http://www.intelmessages.org/Message...sages/826.html

"""Two Iraqi Military defectors, an unnamed former Lt. General and a Captain Sabah Khodada recently gave details of an Iraqi school at Salman Pak which includes training for the hijacking of passenger airliners and other modes of transportation. The former Iraqi General said that there was a old Boeing 707 resting next to rail tracks on edge of Salman Pak being used in terrorist training, the existence of this aircraft has been confirmed by UN. Inspectors.

Blah

Sheesh... dopey kids says the guy who has the "real evidence" from another of millions of easy-to-cut-and-paste websites to support anything - including the world is flat.

Judgement and balance never was a prime concern on GFY tho...

[12clicks]

you're a leftist so here's your lefist source:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...s/khodada.html

[tony286]

whats typical? do you have a government report backing up what you say? Right wingers hate facts they are so inconvenient lol They lied , you supported them and now you have to still buy the lie or look really dumb. very sad

[Shakula]

Originally Posted by Splum

Saddam financed terrorist homicide bombers


http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/...004766310.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/...in505316.shtml
etc etc etc

Attacking a country which occupies your land doesnt classify as terrorism.
Dont believe everything you read in the jewish media.
Most of them are pro-israel.

[12clicks]

I await your links refuting it, Debby.

[tony286]

government reports not one side or another news pundit bullshit come on guys I will wait

[stickyfingerz]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,84291,00.html

http://www.sptimes.com/2003/04/07/Wo...nforces_.shtml



http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...2/024eyieu.asp


http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/20...m&frame= true

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...s/khodada.html

http://www.boston.com/news/daily/16/terrorist_camp.htm


http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=604615

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...6/550kmbzd.asp

http://www.intelmessages.org/Message...sages/826.html

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=31939

All those sources are part of a vast conspiracy to make GWB look good huh?

[Webby]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

you're a leftist so here's your lefist source:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...s/khodada.html

That is another "tendency" or "leaning" - to assume so much. Thanks for the other cut and paste, but I'd rather get it from the horse's mouth - not another "opinion" used to feed the masses.

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by Webby

Sheesh... dopey kids says the guy who has the "real evidence" from another of millions of easy-to-cut-and-paste websites to support anything - including the world is flat.

Judgement and balance never was a prime concern on GFY tho...

You never showed up to the costa rica bash....

[tony286]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,84291,00.html

http://www.sptimes.com/2003/04/07/Wo...nforces_.shtml



http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...2/024eyieu.asp


http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/20...m&frame= true

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...s/khodada.html

http://www.boston.com/news/daily/16/terrorist_camp.htm


http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=604615

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...6/550kmbzd.asp

http://www.intelmessages.org/Message...sages/826.html

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=31939

All those sources are part of a vast conspiracy to make GWB look good huh?

government reports,facts not bullshit.

[Webby]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

All those sources are part of a vast conspiracy to make GWB look good huh?

More stupid cut and pastes my dear Sticky?

Who is bothering about George Bush in particular??

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by Webby

That is another "tendency" or "leaning" - to assume so much. Thanks for the other cut and paste, but I'd rather get it from the horse's mouth - not another "opinion" used to feed the masses.

no links refuting me, Debby? didn't think so as most of your information doesn't come from the horse's mouth but actually its other end.

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by tony404

government reports,facts not bullshit.

So Marines reporting it doesnt count eh? lol Did you read any of the articles? Thought not.

[Webby]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

You never showed up to the costa rica bash....

Been away for a good while now... least feels like it - and good to get back!

Been globetrotting - mix or biz and pleasure. It's exhausting, but sure is an eyeopener!

[Splum]

Originally Posted by tony404

government reports,facts not bullshit.

US armed forces public statements ARE government reports idiot.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

So Marines reporting it doesnt count eh? lol Did you read any of the articles? Thought not.

government report is offical everything else who knows who said what. Give me a government report

[Splum]

Originally Posted by Webby

Been away for a good while now... least feels like it - and good to get back! Been globetrotting - mix or biz and pleasure. It's exhausting, but sure is an eyeopener!

Globetrotting aka "Ive been a fugitive"

[tony286]

splum your wasting your time I cant see your posts.

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by Webby

Been away for a good while now... least feels like it - and good to get back!

Been globetrotting - mix or biz and pleasure. It's exhausting, but sure is an eyeopener!

Interesting......

[seven]

Originally Posted by Splum

Lol like this "justifies" anything? Even the report above acknowledges Zarqawi set up his terrorist group in Iraq before the US invasion.


You guys crack me up whenever the Democrats declassify a document that only serves their viewpoint. Did you know there are hundreds of other documents that are still classified that suggest Saddam was notified and allowed Zarqawi to get free treatment for his wounds the US inflicted upon him in Afghanistan full well knowing he was the leader of a terrorist group. Besides there were MANY reasons we had a right to invade Iraq.

You are so smart I salute you and so does him:

[Webby]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

no links refuting me, Debby? didn't think so as most of your information doesn't come from the horse's mouth but actually its other end.

Inane dialog was never my forte, particularly on this level, - but your superior intellect will hopefully inspire the more intellectually challenged on GFY. Don't let me hold you back dear fellow - astound the world with cut and pastes

[Porn Farmer]

On September 8, 2006, "Phase II" of the Senate Report of Pre-war Intelligence on Iraq was released.[24] On page 83 of the report, the following is stated under the heading "Postwar Information on Salman Pak":

?In a response to questions from Committee staff asking if DIA recovered or received information or intelligence, after the raid on Salman Pak in April 2003 that indicated non-Iraqis received terrorist training at the Salman Pak facility, DIA said it has "no credible reports that non-Iraqis were trained to conduct or support transnational terrorist operations at Salman Pak after 1991." DIA assessed that the foreigners were likely volunteers who traveled to Iraq in the months before Operation Iraqi Freedom began to fight overtly alongside Iraqi military forces...DIA said it has "no information from Salman Pak that links al-Qa'ida with the former regime."

In June 2006, CIA told the Committee that: There was information developed after OIF (Operation Iraqi Freedem) that indicated terrorists were trained at Salman Pak; there was an apparent surge of such reporting. As with past information, however, the reporting is vague and difficult to substantiate. As was the case with the prewar reporting, the postwar sources provided few details, and it is difficult to conclude from their second-hand accounts whether Iraq was training al-Qa'ida members, as opposed to other foreign nationals. Postwar exploitation of Salman Pak has yielded no indications that training of al-Qa'ida linked individuals took place there, and we have no information from detainees on this issue

A November 2003 assessment from DIA noted that postwar exploitation of the facility found it "devoid of valuable intelligence." The assessment added that CIA exploitation "found nothing of intelligence value remained and assessed that Iraqi Intelligence Service (IIS) cleaned it out." The DIA assessment concluded that "we do not know whether ex-regime trained terrorists on the aircraft at Salman Pak. Intelligence in late April 2003 indicated the plane had been dismantled. DIA and CENTCOM asses the plane was sold for scrap.

[Splum]

Originally Posted by seven

You are so smart I salute you and so does him:

You suck at the internet, you cant even hotlink right.

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by Webby

Inane dialog was never my forte, particularly on this level, - but your superior intellect will hopefully inspire the more intellectually challenged on GFY. Don't let me hold you back dear fellow - astound the world with cut and pastes

Just wondering how do we make up our own official reports?

[Webby]

Originally Posted by Splum

Globetrotting aka "Ive been a fugitive"

Is Splum's closet fantasy world running wild again?

Sheesh... funny and very sad!

[Webby]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Just wondering how do we make up our own official reports?

Only a thought Sticky - but it really don't matter what charades people throw out - some may be accurate, others not. Bottom line - personally I could not care less what preoccupations others have or their "needs" to prove something one way or the other.

The world is a big place and most of the planet don't really give a shit about govt reports and the US media - they are doing more interesting things.

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by Webby

Is Splum's closet fantasy world running wild again?

Sheesh... funny and very sad!

Just odd one day you say you will be there and we'll have drinks, and the next you are nowhere to be found. Spontaneous globe trotting weee.

[seven]

Originally Posted by Splum

You suck at the internet, you cant even hotlink right.

But I still love you man! Cos u da man!

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by Webby

Only a thought Sticky - but it really don't matter what charades people throw out - some may be accurate, others not. Bottom line - personally I could not care less what preoccupations others have or their "needs" to prove something one way or the other.

The world is a big place and most of the planet don't really give a shit about govt reports and the US media - they are doing more interesting things.

To call you "quirky" would be an understatement....

[Splum]

Originally Posted by Webby

The world is a big place and most of the planet don't really give a shit about govt reports and the US media - they are doing more interesting things.

Yes like contracting aids, turning a blind eye to genocide, practicing vast corruption techniques and engaging in class warfare.

[Webby]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Just odd one day you say you will be there and we'll have drinks, and the next you are nowhere to be found. Spontaneous globe trotting weee.

Nothing exactly "spontaneous" about it (tho one bit was)... Sorry I missed ya Sticky, but got a feeling that drink time will pop up again! There were more relevant and pressing stuff to deal with than yet another webmaster meet (and more money involved) - but ended up having a "social event" but exhausting as hell. We visited... think six countries along the way (including US and Europe) and ended up at Machu Picchu - which is utterly awesome! (Supposed to have went there at the start of the year, but could not go then)

[Webby]

Originally Posted by Splum

Yes like contracting aids, turning a blind eye to genocide, practicing vast corruption techniques and engaging in class warfare.

Sheesh you are pathetic Splum... look inwards and you will find all these elements.

[venus]

If its classified how do you know about it?

Anyway, a suggestion is only a suggestion, its not fact... anyone can make a suggestion. Sounds like another one of Bush's documents like the one that said Saddam was trying to buy uranium from Africa.

Originally Posted by Splum

Did you know there are hundreds of other documents that are still classified that suggest Saddam was notified and allowed Zarqawi to get free treatment for his wounds the US inflicted upon him in Afghanistan full well knowing he was the leader of a terrorist group. Besides there were MANY reasons we had a right to invade Iraq.

[Webby]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

To call you "quirky" would be an understatement....

Hehe.. Na... It's possibly more a sense of balance than anything... Some stuff may seem important, but it's only important to people stuck in the middle of it and who often "think" it is important (and may be to them!). There is far more going on "outside" - some good, bad and some excellent opportunities along the way. When you are used to a certain environment (typical webmaster stuff) - it hits ya in the face how irrelevant a lot of this actually is - same with the classic "US stuff" on GFY. Other folks don't even consider any of this - it's not part of their lives - and a good few live a far superior lifestyle than we do. So.. makes ya wonder sometimes!

It's also prob a total confusion to many folks when they are presented with a scenario where all their daily problems don't exist - they don't care about shit like FIFO scores etc - not because they may be rolling in money (many ain't), but it's not part of their lives. Only my but met a good few people who live vastly better lifestyles generally and money is not the issue - they just "know better" - and we sure can learn a lot from em.

[Splum]

Originally Posted by venus

If its classified how do you know about it? Anyway, a suggestion is only a suggestion, its not fact... anyone can make a suggestion. Sounds like another one of Bush's documents like the one that said Saddam was trying to buy uranium from Africa.

This information was leaked when making the case for invading Iraq to the United Nations council. Intelligence is intelligence buddy, and the whole WORLD thought Saddam had WMDs so dont get it twisted acting like this is simply a "Bush" thing. Bush doesnt control the Russian intelligence agencies.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Splum

Bush doesnt control the Russian intelligence agencies.

Russia didn't invade Iraq

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

Russia didn't invade Iraq

Brilliant.......

[Splum]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

Russia didn't invade Iraq

I didnt say that, I said Russian intelligence agencies said Iraq was developing WMDs. I was pointing out that intelligence can be "faulty" no matter what country it comes from and is not exclusive to United States intelligence agencies.