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sortie · 04-04-2007, 07:28 PM

I want to use sponsors with hosted galleries that will either send me a CD or have a download for all the 2257 info for the galleries.

I mean the actual records. I'm tired of the 2257 BS and this is the only way to really solve it.

I think it is legitimate for me to simply link to the sponsor 2257 for all the galleries but that doesn't seem to cut it for the folks pushing the law.

Spam me if you have it.

Thanks.

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 04-04-2007, 07:31 PM

There are a couple that will provide them for you....

sortie · 04-04-2007, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Clark

There are a couple that will provide them for you....

Links please.

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 04-04-2007, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sortie

Links please.

If I had links I woulda gave them too you...

BOSS1 · 04-04-2007, 07:50 PM

are u suuuuuuure my man?

sortie · 04-04-2007, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BOSS1

are u suuuuuuure my man?

Sure about what?

If I have the documents then I'm in compliance and can forget about it.

GatorB · 04-04-2007, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sortie

I want to use sponsors with hosted galleries that will either send me a CD or have a download for all the 2257 info for the galleries.

I mean the actual records. I'm tired of the 2257 BS and this is the only way to really solve it.

I think it is legitimate for me to simply link to the sponsor 2257 for all the galleries but that doesn't seem to cut it for the folks pushing the law.

Spam me if you have it.

Thanks.

If the sponsor is hosting the galleries you don't need the 2257 info

RawAlex · 04-04-2007, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

If the sponsor is hosting the galleries you don't need the 2257 info

You do if you are running a thumb TGP.

sortie · 04-04-2007, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

If the sponsor is hosting the galleries you don't need the 2257 info

Thumbnailed TGP????

sortie · 04-04-2007, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex

You do if you are running a thumb TGP.

You = faster!

GatorB · 04-04-2007, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex

You do if you are running a thumb TGP.

Well good luck with that. Part of the reason the sponsors would create FHGs is that they won't have to bother handing out 2257 info. So expect a big NO to your request for it.

sortie · 04-04-2007, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Well good luck with that. Part of the reason the sponsors would create FHGs is that they won't have to bother handing out 2257 info. So expect a big NO to your request for it.

That's not the reason to make FHGs.

Besides, the way this law is you need 2257 to post a banner on your webpage.

vod · 04-04-2007, 08:29 PM

there is a misconception

this image is on gfy website put is pull from and server on XoDGroup.com
so gfy would not need 2257 unless the image was being served from gfy...

if you are pulling the image or video then you would link to the 2257 on the website serving the image or video. like the image above is pulling from xodgroup.com who is serving the image ;

hope this help's

sortie · 04-04-2007, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by vod

there is a misconception

this image is on gfy website put is pull from and server on XoDGroup.com
so gfy would not need 2257 unless the image was being served from gfy...

if you are pulling the image or video then you would link to the 2257 on the website serving the image or video. like the image above is pulling from xodgroup.com who is serving the image ;

hope this help's

All ready thought about that. BUTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!

No where in the law does it say I can do this without being classified as a secondary producer. So thanks, but until you win a case on this basis your opinion is only one to use with a risk.

BoyAlley · 04-04-2007, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vod

there is a misconception

this image is on gfy website put is pull from and server on XoDGroup.com
so gfy would not need 2257 unless the image was being served from gfy...

if you are pulling the image or video then you would link to the 2257 on the website serving the image or video. like the image above is pulling from xodgroup.com who is serving the image ;

hope this help's

Uhm...................................

You are so very, very wrong about what the law is.

mattz · 04-04-2007, 08:47 PM

wow people are going crazy

spacedog · 04-04-2007, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vod

there is a misconception

this image is on gfy website put is pull from and server on XoDGroup.com
so gfy would not need 2257 unless the image was being served from gfy...

if you are pulling the image or video then you would link to the 2257 on the website serving the image or video. like the image above is pulling from xodgroup.com who is serving the image ;

hope this help's

Read the law.. "Anyone who DISPLAYS......."

As far as GFY needing docs for something you displayed on their domain.. not sure how that works....

JMM · 04-04-2007, 09:09 PM

Then can someone please explain this:

http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...=1&sa=N&tab=wi

sortie · 04-04-2007, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JMM

Then can someone please explain this:

http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...=1&sa=N&tab=wi

Yes, the law has an exception for search engine portals.

Google has money and power and most of us don't.

RogerV · 04-04-2007, 11:07 PM

We have all the records and will only turn them over to our affiliates if necessary.
Just like some webmaster stole money from JFK I'm sure some idiot would stalk the girls.

Steve_AmateurVideoCash · 04-04-2007, 11:29 PM

We have all of our 2257 info, we can provide whatever is needed, let's just hope that it does not get to that point.

-S

RawAlex · 04-04-2007, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by vod

there is a misconception

this image is on gfy website put is pull from and server on XoDGroup.com
so gfy would not need 2257 unless the image was being served from gfy...

If that is your entire defense, I hope like heck you have a good lawyer.

The "computer source" of the image may have nothing to do with it. READ THE RULES CAREFULLY - it says where the image is published. Putting an image into a webpage (even served from another server) is still an act of publication. You specifically edited your page to include the image.

Therefore, guess what... you are a secondary producer and you need to have the documents (if you are in the US).

Now, if you posted a link to that image (but not the image) you would be in the clear.

If it is your web page with an image on it, they will knock at YOUR door and ask you for documents. I hope your "it isn't actually on my server" defence goes over all.

JD · 04-04-2007, 11:40 PM

i believe Naughty America gives out docs

NinjaSteve · 04-04-2007, 11:40 PM

Radical Cash!

We are fully compliant with all of our TGP galleries. We have the 2257 info, I'll have to find out what we'll be doing about this and the CD/Download issue you mentioned.

DWB · 04-04-2007, 11:51 PM

I have to frown upon any company that would give out docs on their models. That is the ultimate form of greed.

Kre8t0r · 04-05-2007, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

I have to frown upon any company that would give out docs on their models. That is the ultimate form of greed.

I guess you aren't keeping up on things then... Making a comment like that at this time with no basis for it just makes things harder for (ONLY) U.S. affiliates to get what they need to do business.

From AVN Article:
"Primary producers may obliterate from identification documents the performers' addresses, social security numbers and all but the year from their dates of birth."

Please tell me why you would frown on giving out proper 2257 info again....

I think the CD/downloadable idea is one of the easiest ways to keep things running smooth. Why would you be worried about "stalking" etc. if you can black out/obliterate any information that could cause this to happen??

This is the closed minded additude that will be the death of this industry!!

04-05-2007, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

i believe Naughty America gives out docs

Yes, you have to apply to be a "gold" affiliate. They provide everything you need for gold affiliates.

Wizzo · 04-05-2007, 08:14 AM

MayorsMoney provides that...

Kre8t0r · 04-05-2007, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Wizzo

MayorsMoney provides that...

Guess it's time to start a "short list" of sponsors..

CyberHustler · 04-05-2007, 08:42 AM

what if I just make it so all thumbs submitted to my tgp's have to be remotely hosted?

sortie · 04-05-2007, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyber-Hu$tler

what if I just make it so all thumbs submitted to my tgp's have to be remotely hosted?

Probably the same thing that would happen if all your thumbs were CP and were remotely hosted.

Prosecutor :

"If you can recognize a CP thumb and remove it then why can't you recognize a sexually explicit thumb and remove it also".

</END OF CASE>

Lance69 · 04-05-2007, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kre8t0r

From AVN Article:
"Primary producers may obliterate from identification documents the performers' addresses, social security numbers and all but the year from their dates of birth."

Please tell me why you would frown on giving out proper 2257 info again....

I think the CD/downloadable idea is one of the easiest ways to keep things running smooth. Why would you be worried about "stalking" etc. if you can black out/obliterate any information that could cause this to happen??

This is the closed minded additude that will be the death of this industry!!

This aspect of the rules makes me very happy.

Miguel · 04-05-2007, 01:03 PM

We can provide you with 2257 docs for our hosteds.

ExtremeBank_Adam · 04-05-2007, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kre8t0r

From AVN Article:
"Primary producers may obliterate from identification documents the performers' addresses, social security numbers and all but the year from their dates of birth."

What about the real names?

CyberHustler · 04-05-2007, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie

Probably the same thing that would happen if all your thumbs were CP and were remotely hosted.

Prosecutor :

"If you can recognize a CP thumb and remove it then why can't you recognize a sexually explicit thumb and remove it also".

</END OF CASE>

cp's illegal, sexually explicit thumbs will require 2257... So if the thumb is hosted by the submitter will I still have to have those 2257 docs?

CARTELCASH_David · 04-05-2007, 03:02 PM

We have it,check my sig

will76 · 04-05-2007, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vod

there is a misconception

this image is on gfy website put is pull from and server on XoDGroup.com
so gfy would not need 2257 unless the image was being served from gfy...

if you are pulling the image or video then you would link to the 2257 on the website serving the image or video. like the image above is pulling from xodgroup.com who is serving the image ;

hope this help's

not true.

the reason why GFY doesn't need 2257 is because you posted that image here on their message board. They did not alter the image and they have no control over it. Same way a dating site can have their users post nude images in their profiles or sites like geocities can allow people to use their service to make homepages.

If you hotlink the image it is on your site even though it is on someone else's server. I am 99% you still going to be responsible for needing the paperwork in that case, at least that is what I have been told by attornies.

Rankings · 04-05-2007, 03:22 PM

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StarkReality · 04-05-2007, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

not true.

the reason why GFY doesn't need 2257 is because you posted that image here on their message board. They did not alter the image and they have no control over it. Same way a dating site can have their users post nude images in their profiles or sites like geocities can allow people to use their service to make homepages.

If you hotlink the image it is on your site even though it is on someone else's server. I am 99% you still going to be responsible for needing the paperwork in that case, at least that is what I have been told by attornies.

That's something I wouldn't bet 5$ on, all the technical details aren't worth much.

As long as something is displayed when entering a certain URL, no matter who uploaded it, who actually hosts it, it's on the site/domain of the person in the whois. Willingly or not, the owner is publishing this content, it's showing up on his site...same for dating sites, it's not like profiles are owned by members.

Yes, it's impossible to check all profiles before putting them online, but you know what a judge would say: If you can't collect the necessary documents, get rid of the pictures.

Domains_Broker · 04-09-2007, 11:29 PM

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DWB · 04-10-2007, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kre8t0r

From AVN Article:
"Primary producers may obliterate from identification documents the performers' addresses, social security numbers and all but the year from their dates of birth."

Please tell me why you would frown on giving out proper 2257 info again....

I know what is going on.

However, giving out ANY info, even birthdays or being able to see what state she is from, is bad IMHO. Any bit of info a stalker could get to get one step closer to a model is not a good idea.

And what if someone could undo the ID cover up to reveal what is really there? Only a matter of time before someone makes a program to do that, if they haven't made one already. For example, there is a program on the way that will take a thumbnail and restore it to the full size image it came from. I know the guy who made it, and have seen it. It's incredible. So what happens when he can uncover what you covered up?

Think outside of the box mate. It's not a good idea.

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Originally Posted by Kre8t0r

This is the closed minded additude that will be the death of this industry!!

Sorry to disappoint, but I'm not in this for "the industry."

Fabien · 04-10-2007, 04:24 AM

Releasing models ids and private infos is against the law in my country. One could sue the shit out of a sponsor doing so.

Back to square one.

UncutBucksMike · 04-10-2007, 06:14 AM

We will be providing redacted ID's along with other required info including Model's legal name, maiden name, and all known aliases (yes, these are all required for 2257 compliance) for any affiliate who is "displaying" our images on their domain. We will also be providing non-explicit content for those who wish to swap out anything explicit and avoid 2257. This will all be ready by May 1, 2007.

04-04-2007, 07:28 PM	#1
sortie Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,771	SPAM ME : Sponsors with 2257 for all hosted galleries I want to use sponsors with hosted galleries that will either send me a CD or have a download for all the 2257 info for the galleries. I mean the actual records. I'm tired of the 2257 BS and this is the only way to really solve it. I think it is legitimate for me to simply link to the sponsor 2257 for all the galleries but that doesn't seem to cut it for the folks pushing the law. Spam me if you have it. Thanks.

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