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		 Ok.  I've also verified they closed their account.  I'm told it's US only accounts and does not effect the EU based accounts. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 I heard from their CEO (who by the way is no longer their CEO as of yesterday) that they are closing the company. He's moving on back to mainstream. But he assured me that all payouts and holdbacks would be returned via Inteca. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Bad news for their clients, thousands of affiliate and the industry as a whole.  I wish the best of luck to all of the sites relying on them for their processing in finding their solution with either CCBill or Epoch. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 whats odd to me is that nobody has asked WHY their account was closed. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			Banks do not close accounts willy-nilly, they have a REASON for it. (remember back to the CE days?) even though its 'only' the US thats affected, if the account was closed on them it makes one wonder about the business practices that caused the closure ... and how long before it affects the EU banking relationships --------- on another note .. bhe??? ROFL - M.L. is that you?? 
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		 barefootsies  .... he'll know who I mean if its him (as I suspect it is) 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Vicki - as per our statement on this matter the account was NOT closed by the bank. The account was in excellent standing, and as such monies will continue to be released. Our organization has simply parted ways with the CEO of 365BillingUS, Jeff Foster.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
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 Whatever the reasons and excuses this time, and irrespective of what future 365billing may have or not, and how accurate or otherwise their "press releases" are - the fundamental issue remains that most TPP's do not or will not provide *any* form of security for the funds they hold on behalf of webmasters. The only two processors I know of who do provide an element of security as part of their biz model are SegPay and Verotel (you chose well!). It's amazing that *any* processor even exists today where they cannot provide a biz model to secure client funds in the event of their demise - even more surprising are the so-called "big names" who still do not provide this. But again... iBill was a big name at one time, and time seems to be a leveller 
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			 I haven't gotten paid yet, but Dan at 365 is busting his ass to get me setup with my own merchant account by mid next week. They are working pretty hard to keep me satified. Also - it's my understanding that Jeff their former CEO actually cancelled the US merchant account on his own without corp approval. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 the problem is this. There are 2 major processing companies, and new processors have to pick up the risky business that the 2 major ones are disgarding, the high volume hidden crossells, content/complaince stuff that the big guys wont touch and for a new processors, having a risky portfolio spells doom. They are less experienced, dont have the relationships and reputation 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Sadly Rui, the truth is ya could count the valid folks/companies on less than one hand - the rest is utter verbal diarrhea and trying to cover ass while maintaining a face of relevance, flashing the odd symbol of wealth to prove something, and who will ultimately resort of a constant barrage of lies and deceit to save their asses. The other even sadder element is that there are sometimes good people working for these operations who get lied to by the corp administrators - and they, of course, are dumped and jobless when the swamplife finally elect to give up the charade of being a "processor". Sader still is the online industry who tolerate these idiots and sign up without having a clue as to who is handling webmaster funds and without any assurances of security in place for the funds they hold. I'm gonna start Banco de Con on Monday morning - anyone want an account? ![]() 
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 Really? How am I dancing on anyones grave? Just because I offer our services is not dancing. Do you see me jumping up and down or saying whoopie? No. I am always respecful and actually do not like to see if a good copmpany goes down because it weakens our industry as a whole. Mitch 
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 If you dont understand that, for whatever self-serving reason, im done with this subject. I just wanted to point that out, not to argue with you about it.  | 
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