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Old 01-13-2007, 02:36 AM   #1
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WEBMASTER for 10 YEARS not millionaire

Hello every body I am a webmaster for more then 10 years
I remember the time I was sending more then 1200 Join per week
on TCG and Clickcash... now ... nothing convert at all
I just Send 12 032 click to streamray .. 700 Member
only 2 sale.... Streamray SUCK.....Cams.com....

I WILL NOW TELL YOU THE BIG SECRET TO MAKE MONEY.......
The money is not from they OUTSIDE but FROM INSIDE.... You
know banner inside member section convert... TRAFFIC INSIDE
ifriends and Cams.com CONVERT ... 10 time more on IFRIENDS...

Now you telling me .. what the hell it's talking about.... I also have
a little studio...... my girls-friends was a chathost.. that was very
easy to me to see exactely where the traffic go ... Ok we all know
that clickcash (affiliate program of ifriends) Is the most powefull SHAVER
of all time.... I saw 4 000 unique click 0 sign-up ... I also saw ... a deleted
website that have been close ... totaly erease on server... 0 unique click send .. 1 sign-up ... You also see sign-up the first hour ... then.. nothing no sign-up ever if you double the amount of traffic ......

So what going-on with the traffic ?????? I am a webmaster .... my girls friends a chathost..... I send to my girls friends traffic .. of course .. only a few sign-up..... but my girls friends make 6 700.00$ USD A WEEK WITHOUT FANCLUB RECURING BILLING.... what ?? recuring on ifriends ?? ...Yes with a chathost account the recuring is 20.00$ per month .. 8,1 month recuring per member.

My girls friend have 42 member .. close is account ... after 7 month 38 member are style in recuring..... The money is inside ..... ERASE PHOTOSHOP.. FRONTPAGE.. DREAMWEARVER. FROM YOUR COMPUTER... unitall all webmaster program...... PUT A GIRLS IN YOUR BETROOM ... SEND THE TRAFFIC FROM THE INSIDE TO THE GIRLS........ Around 5 000$ to 17 000$ per week.... for example all the 25 HD GIRLS in the FRONT LIVE BROWSE OF IFRIENDS ARE PAID MORE THEN 5 000.00$ PER WEEK.... give to the girls a 1000.00$ week...keep all for you ...

Good luck
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Old 01-13-2007, 02:40 AM   #2
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Old 01-13-2007, 02:42 AM   #3
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i had a very hard time trying to understand, English cliff notes translation?
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Old 01-13-2007, 02:52 AM   #4
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So what you're saying is salt is best served with popcorn?
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Old 01-13-2007, 03:01 AM   #5
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Old 01-13-2007, 03:06 AM   #6
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From what I caught on that, you do have a very good idea. So what you are saying is hire chat hosts, and cross sell to your sponsors after the girls are chatting them up? Great idea
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Old 01-13-2007, 05:31 AM   #7
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It's 430am, and I think I'm dumber for having read that.
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Old 01-13-2007, 05:32 AM   #8
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So what you're saying is salt is best served with popcorn?
We found a winner!

I think this should be edited in as the Cliff Notes, stat
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Old 01-13-2007, 05:33 AM   #9
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It's 430am, and I think I'm dumber for having read that.
It is 4:30 a.m. and I decided after the first line that I had no idea what was being said.
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Old 01-13-2007, 05:41 AM   #10
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Chathosts are still making that kind of coin? Even with all the eastern european studios and such?
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Old 01-13-2007, 05:44 AM   #11
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thats all dumb bitches are good for anyway
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Old 01-13-2007, 05:45 AM   #12
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i am joking of course. i make my living off you girls! i love you! kisses! k, bye
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Old 01-13-2007, 05:54 AM   #13
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Old 01-13-2007, 06:14 AM   #14
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Old 01-13-2007, 06:17 AM   #15
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<sarcasm>English is clearly not this guy's first - second or third - language, so he must be an idiot.</sarcasm>

Totally agree.
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Old 01-13-2007, 06:18 AM   #16
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Old 01-13-2007, 06:25 AM   #17
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Cross selling and upselling is a good idea.

Have you ever promoted the adult web cams at Adult Webmaster Empire?

It's a lucrative program. Check it out.

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Old 01-13-2007, 06:30 AM   #18
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Dude if you were sending 1200 joins per week to sponsors back in the day you DEFO should be a millionaire. Even at $20 a sale thats $24K a week. Thats 100K a month.
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Old 01-13-2007, 06:34 AM   #19
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Try to pay attention to punctuation's. Very difficult to read.
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Dude if you were sending 1200 joins per week to sponsors back in the day you DEFO should be a millionaire. Even at $20 a sale thats $24K a week. Thats 100K a month.
Took the words right out of my mouth.

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Old 01-13-2007, 07:57 AM   #24
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Dude if you were sending 1200 joins per week to sponsors back in the day you DEFO should be a millionaire. Even at $20 a sale thats $24K a week. Thats 100K a month.
Isn't math expecting just a bit much from someone that can't even write english?

Welcome to gfy captain old skool! If it took you 10 years to find this place I can understand, you are confused..Just click your heels and say "It's 1999...it's 1999.. Never know might work
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Isn't math expecting just a bit much from someone that can't even write english?
so you have to know english to know math ?
sorry but americans suck at math
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Old 01-13-2007, 08:24 AM   #26
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Personally I think you are a millionaire and you are simply having a hard time figuring out the decimal points, $1,000,000 is a million dollars now please recheck your bank statements
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Old 01-13-2007, 11:11 AM   #29
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i had a very hard time trying to understand, English cliff notes translation?
Back in the day he was pimp. Programs are fucking him over. He's girlfriend is da bomb in ifriends and makes $6,700/week with recurring or something.
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so you were doing 1200 joins a week and your not a millionaire

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Sorry for my english

Sorry For my english .... Yes I speak french (canada) QC..........
YES 1 200 sign-up per week on tcg and clickcash give me around 22 000.00$ per week..... I know gofuckyourself for a couple of years ..... but I dont have time to come.... the money is on the PRODUCTION .... live stream ... NOT on referal program....

Ok course it's was not a good idee to use my girls friends ..... am not with my girlsfriends anymore because of cams .........It's hard to see some-one you love do live cams in front of you with other guy..... Some-time funny..... Anyways ..... for 5 years now ...... Chathost make 10 time the money of webmaster ...... How many webmaster make between 3 000.00$ to 15 000.00$ per week ?????? exclude server cost... traffic PPC .... etc.....
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Sorry For my english .... Yes I speak french (canada) QC..........
YES 1 200 sign-up per week on tcg and clickcash give me around 22 000.00$ per week..... I know gofuckyourself for a couple of years ..... but I dont have time to come.... the money is on the PRODUCTION .... live stream ... NOT on referal program....

Ok course it's was not a good idee to use my girls friends ..... am not with my girlsfriends anymore because of cams .........It's hard to see some-one you love do live cams in front of you with other guy..... Some-time funny..... Anyways ..... for 5 years now ...... Chathost make 10 time the money of webmaster ...... How many webmaster make between 3 000.00$ to 15 000.00$ per week ?????? exclude server cost... traffic PPC .... etc.....
No need to apologize about your English. I couldn't have written what you did in French! I agree that the real money is working from the inside. The problem for most of the jokers here is they're operating out of their mum's basements, still existing on pocket money, and will never possess the requisite brain cells to create anything themselves. Of course, if you're very good at promotion, you can be one of the lucky few to make even more than some program owners.

Good input though. Wish there were more business threads like this on here.
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Your post made my eyes bleed, but I think I grasped what you were trying to say. Thanks for taking the time to actually talk business
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Thanks for taking the time to actually talk business
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Isn't math expecting just a bit much from someone that can't even write english?

Welcome to gfy captain old skool! If it took you 10 years to find this place I can understand, you are confused..Just click your heels and say "It's 1999...it's 1999.. Never know might work


So because they dont speak english, they can not do math???

Then you truly are a fucking idiot.


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Just kidding, yes, the market has worsened.

Still slogging away here too.

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rubbish - the average chat host doesnt make more 10x than the average webmaster.

i dont think i believe that.
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Just woundering if any chathosts here can tell me which program pays them the most and what a camhost can expect to make in her or his first couple weeks months ect... industry average
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so you were doing 1200 joins a week and your not a millionaire

I hear you but consider that back in the day there were a shit load of rev share programs with $2.95 trials.

Members joined and quit before rebill at an incredible rate.
He could send 1200 joins to get (1200 x 1.50) = $1800 plus
300 converts time $12.00(50/50 revshare) = $3600 for a total
of $5400 minus fees and chargebacks also minus $12.50 per chargeback....
Yeah, back then the webmaster affiliate had to pay 50% of the $25 fee the bank charged in chargebacks in addition to losing the sale!

So he was only making $20,000 per month in that case. If we consider that signup prices were $19.99 instead of $29.99 it gets worse and he may have been making about $12,000 a month. If you consider that chargebacks were at an all time high and that's why Visa almost shut us down and American Express will not process adult, then he could have made even less with these fees being in the $1000s every month.

Also add in that bandwidth was $8 A FUCKING GIG!
Add that to hosting then subtract $2200 a month from his earnings.

Plus people bought content in those days(there were no hosted galleries)
So subtract $500 month for content.


See, stuff like cheep hosting, cheap bandwith, $35 per trial join, Free hosted galleries, free content, Free hosting, credit on exit consoles, etc...

Were invented because to make it easier for webmasters to make money because it was clear the some were not getting rich.

There are many reasons why people who bust ass and really do a great job don't get rich...the above scenario is just one of them.

The reality...it's not easy to get rich...it just looks that way from the outside in.
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Is this IFriends spam or something? I know peeps making a ton over there...

Who wants to be a millionaire? I just wanna live comfortably... !
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Just woundering if any chathosts here can tell me which program pays them the most and what a camhost can expect to make in her or his first couple weeks months ect... industry average

Bump for an interesting thread and nice question.
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Drugs can ruine anyone
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See, stuff like cheep hosting, cheap bandwith, $35 per trial join, Free hosted galleries, free content, Free hosting, credit on exit consoles, etc...

Were invented because to make it easier for webmasters to make money because it was clear the some were not getting rich.

There are many reasons why people who bust ass and really do a great job don't get rich...the above scenario is just one of them.

The reality...it's not easy to get rich...it just looks that way from the outside in.
What you are missing from your list is "jaded consumers", "credit card fraud", "P2P sharing", "give it all away video sharing sites", "spyware / scumware / affilaite code stealers", "zango", and any number of other things that have lead to the porn consumer being very, very picky about what the signup for. As a result, what use to be a 1 in 400 business (and sometimes 1 in 100) is now really about a 1 in 2000 to 1 in 4000 (depending on who you talk to) business.

I looked at my personal traffic stats even this year to last... for month of march up 40%. Sales? flat. It took 40% more traffic to make the same money - and that is in a single year. The trend over 10 years isn't any better. The only saving grace is that I have great hosting that doesn't cost all that much, keeping the bottom line in check.

My personal prediction is within 2 years the affiiliate model in online porn will be all but dead, because conversions will continue to get worse, and the costs of bandwidth are no longer dropping fast enough to make up for it (and they don't have much further to drop before they are a rounding error cost).

Keep working on it.
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Can someone translate? I misplaced my Retard to English dictionary.
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Old 04-03-2007, 09:27 AM   #50
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Can someone translate? I misplaced my Retard to English dictionary.
Why? Your english seems ok.
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