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Old 03-30-2007, 05:48 AM   #51
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i'm thinking about those that pre-bought all those xxx domains....
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The details are finally on the ICANN website.

http://www.icann.org/minutes/resolut...m#_Toc36876524

Defeated...and no recourse is possible. ICM is down and out with nowhere left to go.

I read the minutes, is this the section that means that they cannot come back with this again

"Accordingly, it is resolved (07.__) that the Proposed Agreement with ICM concerning the .XXX sTLD is rejected and the application request for a delegation of the .XXX sTLD is hereby denied. "

I have not read minutes of when it came up before, so I was not sure.

This is great news, and those of you that have kept hammering the boards to keep us informed and to get us involved deserve a round of applause.

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I had a strong feeling it would be shot down in the end.


Btw, I'm not psychic or anything. :D

It was just a bad idea proposed by people who only see what they want to see as far as adult on the web is concerned. People with an agenda. I was fairly confident that once all the actual facts were presented that cooler (and hopefully more intelligent) heads would prevail.
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finally we can put this piece of shit thing to rest.. I think they need to focus on making a kids safe domain .kids, and police that area instead..

anyhow.. thank god.. and those in the industry who I wont point out that gained to make a lot of money off of .xxx shame on you.
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Old 03-30-2007, 09:32 AM   #72
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The best news for our industry EVER! *cartwheels and cheers*

the wicked witch is finally dead!

A big thanks to everyone that voiced their opinion to ICANN
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Well, here is the audio stream I recorded last night. Took me a bit to rip it off the DAT tape and normalize the audio. It is uncut and exactly as they spoke it.

.XXX was defeated 9-5 with Dr. Tomey abstaining from the vote. If you remember correctly he is the one responsible for even bringing this to ICANN in not so many words.

CLICK HERE FOR .XXX DEFEATED AUDIO STREAM - ICANN VOTES NO ON .XXX - CLICK HERE

Here is the .zip file.

CLICK HERE FOR .XXX DEFEATED AUDIO STREAM ZIP FILE- ICANN VOTES NO ON .XXX - CLICK HERE

This were public meetings in Lisbon.

*NOTE* I've parked this on my goofballing server, so it may be a little slow. Its a good listen.

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Now we just need to find out who the 26 "supporters" were so that people can make decisions on who they do business with.
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Now we just need to find out who the 26 "supporters" were so that people can make decisions on who they do business with.
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Old 03-30-2007, 09:59 AM   #77
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"It was not immediately clear if ICM would revise its proposal again, abandon the bid or perhaps appeal the decision or take action through the courts."


From the AP story
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ICM cannot revise or even think of resubmitting the proposal this round which means it will be a few years (average) or 18 months I guess until they get a shot at it again, if they choose so, which if you listen to icann's comments from each panel member carefully, would be futile. the bottom line is icann says it will not be responsible nor undertake the duties of policing the content of the tld, nor will it allow an agency like IFFOR which is obviously a bedfellow of ICM monitor tlds as such.

there were many many other things that they brought up that ICM would have a very very difficult time getting them to change their mind on. Things that you can't throw money at.

Check out the stream. Focus on it, because at points with all the professional meeting mumbo jumbo, it gets complicated and dry, but its worth the listen.
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I like the part where he says, "... if you vote YES, you are rejecting .xxx proposal, if you vote NO, you are voting to not rejecting ... " How many around the table were a bit puzzled about this !

I also like the part where the lady says that it is not ICANN job to regulate internet content
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Now we just need to find out who the 26 "supporters" were so that people can make decisions on who they do business with.

Remembering ACACIA ??
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I like the part where he says, "... if you vote YES, you are rejecting .xxx proposal, if you vote NO, you are voting to not rejecting ... " How many around the table were a bit puzzled about this !

I also like the part where the lady says that it is not ICANN job to regulate internet content
yes i found that refreshing. that is one of the things that many believe icann will never bend on, as well they also refused to allow a third party or sponsored entity by a tld sponsor ehhhhemmm (iffor) to be allowed to do it as well.

so that effectively shoots stuart's attempt of policng us with IFFOR.

there are some unemployed wanna be policemen this morning. they would have to be pretty ballsy to attempt to come back with this again. many things that icann does not like about this proposal cannot just be changed. its time to let it go.
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Having stayed up late to watch the video stream live last night, I can tell you that I was pretty much amazed by the panel.

First and foremost, Susan Crawford is one major pain in the ass. I read her bio (http://www.icann.org/biog/crawford.htm ) and I guess I understand a little bit more, but wow, was her opinion both strong and heavily misdirected. For someone who is a laywer, she seems to really not grasp how ICANN could have very easily found itself in the middle of legal hell trying to regulate content online.

Some of the other members of the board had a much clearer grasp of the concepts here, including the idea that the proposal didn't meet up with the adult community as a whole, but rather with a small group of people trying to maneuver themselves into a controlling position.

What I find interesting is that none of the members of the ICANN board touched the issue of the abusive pricing structure that was proposed. Regular .com domains are $6.95 net cost. .XXX domains were going to be $70 each. I can't beleive that none of the members figured out that this would be a massive, massive money grab, where none is justified.

In the end, the board has not truly changed it's position on this issue for over a year now, and there is no way within the forseeable future that it will change, so that until the end of the current mandate for these board members, I don't think anything important will happen.

Now we need to find a list of supporters so those people can answer for their attempted brute force takeover of the industry.
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Now we just need to find out who the 26 "supporters" were so that people can make decisions on who they do business with.

There is a very interesting function on GFY called "SEARCH" ...

Pretty easy to get some information about it in many threads
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The interesting "SEARCH" function fails more often than it works, and comes up with rumors and not a list.

Would you care to help out with a couple of links?
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Pretty easy to get some information about it in many threads
I don't recall any thread that gave that information. I do recall a thread were someone posted what they thought was a time consuming end around to "maybe" obtain the information.
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Having stayed up late to watch the video stream live last night, I can tell you that I was pretty much amazed by the panel.

First and foremost, Susan Crawford is one major pain in the ass. I read her bio (http://www.icann.org/biog/crawford.htm ) and I guess I understand a little bit more, but wow, was her opinion both strong and heavily misdirected. For someone who is a laywer, she seems to really not grasp how ICANN could have very easily found itself in the middle of legal hell trying to regulate content online.

Some of the other members of the board had a much clearer grasp of the concepts here, including the idea that the proposal didn't meet up with the adult community as a whole, but rather with a small group of people trying to maneuver themselves into a controlling position.

What I find interesting is that none of the members of the ICANN board touched the issue of the abusive pricing structure that was proposed. Regular .com domains are $6.95 net cost. .XXX domains were going to be $70 each. I can't beleive that none of the members figured out that this would be a massive, massive money grab, where none is justified.

In the end, the board has not truly changed it's position on this issue for over a year now, and there is no way within the forseeable future that it will change, so that until the end of the current mandate for these board members, I don't think anything important will happen.

Now we need to find a list of supporters so those people can answer for their attempted brute force takeover of the industry.


agreed. i did hear one of the board members at the end say like 3 words about the excessive pricing, but it was nothing to write home about.
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i think he will try to bring it back, but based on the boards continued position and inability to budge on the merits of the proposal, i'd say that it will end up the same.

one thing that i really appreciated was that they recognized "CONSIDERABLE OPPOSITION" within the sponsored community that stuart was so happy to speak for. That shows me that they do in fact have people reading message boards and we did in fact make an impact on the final outcome of the decision. They do pay attention, and if it comes back, we will be right there again to drum up the support. I will never let my guard down, if it is not .xxx there will be some other opportunist with $ signs in his or her eyes that will crosshair us as easy targets. This is the most unity I've ever seen in adult. I am happily surprised.


Fuck I just realized I could be poisoned or shot in Phoenix. Haha.
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I don't recall any thread that gave that information. I do recall a thread were someone posted what they thought was a time consuming end around to "maybe" obtain the information.

Cmon .. read between the lines...


If you look at threads about the subject, then you might find some post in these where some were saying that .xxx is a good idea


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Having stayed up late to watch the video stream live last night, I can tell you that I was pretty much amazed by the panel.

First and foremost, Susan Crawford is one major pain in the ass. I read her bio (http://www.icann.org/biog/crawford.htm ) and I guess I understand a little bit more, but wow, was her opinion both strong and heavily misdirected. For someone who is a laywer, she seems to really not grasp how ICANN could have very easily found itself in the middle of legal hell trying to regulate content online.

Some of the other members of the board had a much clearer grasp of the concepts here, including the idea that the proposal didn't meet up with the adult community as a whole, but rather with a small group of people trying to maneuver themselves into a controlling position.

Seriosuly she sounds like she's been paid off. Most of her speech has nothing to do with the .XXX application and her specific arguements are illogical and circular. Not really congruent with what you would expect from a lawyer.

She even said the opposition to .XXX is not grassroot in the adult community and that the pre-regs are "good enough" proof.


So I wonder, what did Lawley buy this deranged cunt off with?
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