:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh yeah... got me there.. woo hoo... good for you... like that matters.. try again moron..

Stupid political groupings

Adult Webmasters for Bush
Jews for Hitler
Blacks for the KKK
Palistinians for Isreal
Mexicans for Stricter US Immigration Laws
Wal-Mart for a Higher Minimum Wage
AARP for Scraping Social Security

The irony is you think more like the people you claim to hate than you care to admit. Isn't it always the way.

You just hate terrorists because its like looking in the mirror. You are just as brainwashed as them only you are far too brainwashed to see it... and you hate your 'enemy' just as intensely as they do. :1orglaugh

You are without a doubt the funniest, but saddest troll on this forum. Congrats! :1orglaugh

How can you forget the groups you are a card carrying member of like:
Part Time Mdonalds Employees for Liberal Pseudo Justice
Angsty Anarchist Teens for Democratic Pornography
Porn Webmasters for Al-Qaeda
Potheads for Peace through Terrorism

I hate but RESPECT my enemy, they stand for something.
I simply just HATE people like you who stand for absolutely nothing.

I will agree with you that Saddam had to go. There is no arguing that he was a monster who did terrible things to his people and would harm others, including us, if he had the means. I guess I differ with some people on how we should have gone about it, but you are right, he was a bad guy.

The thing that annoys me the most about Bush is that everytime he want's to do something controversial he plays the 9/11 /saftey card and tries to convice people that if they don't follow him blindly another 9/11 will happen or we will not be safe.

As for people thinking that Saddam and Iraq are two different entities I would argue that when people say Iraq they think Saddamn and when they say Saddamn they think Iraq. In the minds of many they are one in the same. Here is an article from the Washington Post saying that 40% of Americans thought Iraq was involved in 9/11 I would imagine if you asked the same people "was saddamn involved in 9/11?" you would get the same answer.

oops here is the link to the Washington Post article
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Jul22.html

I stand for not fucking with other people or, on a national level, not fucking with other countries.

Your fucking with other countries got you 9/11.... no doubt in the future it will get you more of the same. For every action there are consequences. When are you going to wake up and realise that?

Dont start nuthin' and there wont be nuthin'

I can't stand anything about Rosie. She's a fat, obnoxious, loud-mouthed cunt who isn't even remotely funny.

By the way to clear some things up I'm not a democrat I'm a independant. When I first registered to vote in 1987 at I registered as a Repubilcan. I fact I voted for Jack Kemp I the GOP primary in 1988 and voted for Bush I in 1988 election. Of the 20 years as a registered voter, I spent 6 as a republican and the last 14 as in INDEPENDANT. So I can talk shit about the GOP if I want. Once the GOP decides to kick the Jesus freaks to the curb and actually start practicing the "less government in people's lives" motto they preach maybe I'll reconsider them.

50,........

Didnt see the link but 40% is a number that I believe is much more accurate, and to most "poor" people(who on average are Democratic and are not too concerned with worldly matters) yes Saddam and Iraq probably mean the same thing to them.
There is a big difference between 40% and 70%.

As far as Bush playing the 9/11 "card" so to speak, look you have to understand the magnitude of 9/11. It was a catastrophic event for the United States, Pearl Harbor was the only thing that was remotely similar... and we all saw the end result of that. 9/11 was and should be revered and we should work to make sure something like that doesnt happen again. It hasnt... yet.

Should we be afraid of terrorists, figuratively speaking yes, but not everyday literally being afraid. Should we have been afraid of terrorists in 1993 when they attacked the WTC the first time, yes of course, but we werent, we blissfully ignored them like some people in this thread are ignoring threats now.

They guy in N Korea needs to go. The guys running China need to go. The guys running 2/3 of Africa need to go. Most of the guys running the Middle East need to go. All of them suppress freedom and kill and torture political dissenters. Are we going to invade everyone in the name of "spreading democracy"?

You really are a simple creature arent you? You honestly believe that you will have no problems in life if you dont "start" something? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

If it serves Americas interests, yes of course. Kind of a stupid and naive question, but you wont see my intelligent reply because you are a spoiled uneducated child who chooses ignorance over reality.

"Splum

A semi combonation of splooge and cum. It is a weak ejaculation do to physical status or poor sperm count. A weaker built person may splum verus a more in shape and heathy person who would climax normally."

Yeah what a thing to name yourself after.

Nice spelling Ben, here is a cluepon to redeem, user Firefox it has a spellchecker.
I hope your porn websites look better than your Myspace page http://www.myspace.com/gatorb :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
Ouch no wonder you are a broke motherfucker.

You made the claim that you "operate MANY adult websites". I called your bluff and you folded. You are the only webmaster on GFY that I have ever known to be afraid to name even one of their websites - the idea is to promote your biz here.

As for your paranoia about me having malicious intents, not sure where you got that. Name a single time I have done anything malicious towards anyone else's website? I assure you, I don't hack people's sites, conduct DoS attacks, or any stuff of that nature.

From what I can tell you are a liar and a coward, and don't actually operate adult websites. You have provided no evidence whatsoever to make anyone think otherwise.

Bravo genius. Technically, we are not at war in Iraq...if you could even grasp that simple fact, then you might not appear to be such a dupe of the neocon propaganda machine.

The Joint Resolution authorizing sending troops into Iraq is different than a Declaration of War.

Regardless, most people place their trust in the President when the lives of U.S. troops are at stake, and the support Bush had post-9/11 was unprecendented. But, when you have been lied to so many times, at some point you have to say enough is enough. I don't ascribe to the "good Nazi" defense.

The lies and continued deployment of our troops, years after "mission accomplished", have caused many in the President's own party, many in the intelligence field, and several former General's and others to call for our withdrawal from Iraq.

You think that just because you like to wrap yourself in the flag, that makes your opinions correct, and that you are more patriotic than people who disagree with you. You disgrace the flag when you do that.

I served six years in the Navy (I was on active duty longer than Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld combined), so I will never bow down to idiotic posturing, nor salute failed policies resulting in the unnecessary deaths of our troops.

My criticisms are not limited to the Bush administration, I have been known to criticize bad policies, regardless of the political party or ideology promoting them.

The Bush/Cheney neocon driven propaganda machine and their agents planted much of the false intelligence the world relied upon, and they ignored any intelligence that contradicted them, or interfered with their desire to invade Iraq. Most of the world understands this now.

See my previous post about Chalabi and the INC. They were a major source of much of the false information, correct?

You should be pissed that billions of dollars of taxpayer money and thousands of precious lives have been lost due to bad intelligence. You should be doubly angry it's the people that you trusted, whom deliberately twisted the intelligence in order to pursue and implement a disasterous agenda that otherwise would have not been possible.

I'm not sure about Rosie's sanity, I haven't seen what she has to say yet on this issue. Celebrities are not generally the people I look to first on world affairs and political issues. :1orglaugh

I'll sell you one of my websites if you ever want to be able to honestly say that you are an adult webmaster... :winkwink:

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That's not me dumbass. You think I have GatorB everywhere?

i guess iraq has nothing to do with 9-11, or correct me if i'm wrong

I agree we should be afraid and our fear should have been starting to build many years back, maybe even before 1993, but like you said we are often blissfully ignorant and assume it won't happen to us.

It just seems like if Bush wants to do something that erodes freedoms or could be misused, he breaks out the 9/11 references. I understand how terrible it was and it should always be in the back of our minds, but it shouldn't be dragged out every time he finds opposition to something he wants to do.

It's hard for me to buy him has someone trying hard to protect the country while we have somewhere around 10,000 illegals a day sneaking in from Mexico.

Let's see

http://www.myspace.com/gatorb :

Male
32 years old
LIVE OAK, FLORIDA

Status: Married
Religion: Christian - other
Zodiac Sign: Gemini
Children: Someday


ME: Male, 38, I don't even live in Florida anymore, divorced, atheist, Sagittarius and I have a child.

So yeah that's me alright. If you looked at my profile here it says my birthday is DECEMBER 8th that tells you I'm not a Gemini. Also I already posted I registered to vote in 1987. So if I'm 32 I was what 12 when I did that? What a dumb ass.

No Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11. Saudi Arbia did, but we didn't invade them because they are buddies with Bush.

Thank you for posting at least something semi-intelligent instead of cutting and pasting and attacking "who is the mysterious splum" angle.

We ARE at war buddy its technically called the "Global War on Terrorism".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Terrorism

Criticize all you want, it wont help your cause. Obviously your government no longer represents you so you have to live with it.


Even if that was true, and Ill grant you some latitude there, Saddam had violated many UN resolutions for years as well as breaking the cease fire agreement several times. He did import BANNED missle parts, he did fire on coalition aircraft in the no fly zone. We had every right in the world to invade and take him out period.


As far as my websites, I will never tell you them but I will tell you this to be a little bit more specific, my "web sites" are merely "door ways" to sponsors/advertisers. In the "traditional" sense I dont run a "content" site and Google is my main traffic source. Does that help you at all.

Shoud I assume this is you?

http://www.myspace.com/splum

Did I see a link to Fox News? The White House lapdog "news" organization?

I completely agree with almost everything you said up there, keep in mind Bush IS a politician and well politicians in general do disingenuous things. I always think in terms of lesser of evils, sure could there be a much better President in office yes, could there be a worse one, yes it could be Jimmy Carter who would have ran in fear from Al Qaeda. As far as Bush eroding freedoms that is an issue I am not so convinced of, I have yet to see one freedom he has eroded of mine personally. Much of it is anti-Bush propaganda, we are a nation of laws, new laws are enacted by each congress and president. Hell Clinton took the freedom of soldiers to come out of the closet. Shrug, I want to come down to the basics...

1. We cant withdraw from Iraq until it is somewhat stabilized.
2. Bush only has a couple years left and we need to start healing the culture gap in our country so we need some people in Congress to step to the plate and start the healing process or this bitter divide in America will just get stronger and stronger each Presidency.
3. American policy has always been pre-emptive it just hasnt been so blatant as the Bush administration has made it. We need to do more actions covertly.
4. The United Nations is useless it should be disbanded and another organization formed from the ground up.

Lol if you wish, I dont really care what you think you know about me. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh Hey I thought I was on ignore? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

It must suck not to be allowed to vote and still be a citizen of the United States?

Yes, that is him. :thumbsup

I WISH I was 22. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
Lol the funny part of your comment is you KNOW who I am and dont even know it, we have done business before a LONG time ago.
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

It does indeed. Although I'm unsure of the relevance of your statement.

For future reference, if you need to make a claim backed by a news story, try to post a reference not from Fox News, as they're about as bogus as it gets. Go for a more reliable source...if such a thing really exists in this spinster-saturated media world.

Most of the 9/11 hijackers were supposedly Saudi, and bin Laden himself is a Saudi, and it's true that Bush and the Saudi royal family have deep economic ties, but recent news out of the Middle East suggests the cozy relationship between Bush and the Saudis is starting to sour...

(Source: Time magazine)

It's not hard to understand this when you consider that Bush's disasterous actions in Iraq have removed a Sunni governed state (Iraq), which had been a buffer between Saudi Arabia (which is Sunni run), and Iran (which is a Shiite state).

You've heard the expression wagging the dog, well, in the Middle East, Bush screwed the pooch...

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I would hope not. If so then.

A) he's nothing but a punk kid

B) he complains about my supposed layout? That's crap and he can't even do it himself. He had to get help from KilerKiwi.net to do that crap.

Its a video of "Rosie Odonnell in her own words" buddy, dont even listen to anything but Rosie and you will see how fucked up she is.

Haha woah for a minute there I almost thought you had a clue until that last part. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

You do realize Iraq attacked Kuwait which was Sunni? He also annexed the UN mandated buffer zone between Saudi Arabia and Iraq without the Saudis approval. The Saudis BEGGED for us to protect them after Saddam attacked Kuwait. Saddam was more dangerous to Saudi Arabia than Iran that is a fact, hell Iraqs military decimated and beat the Iranians. Saddam was dangerous for EVERYONE, Bush did the Saudis a favor by removing Saddam.

I never made reference to Rosie O'Duh-nell in this thread, just to Fox News and how much they suck ass. Take a looksee. I think they're all fucked up, including her. In fact, my general opinion is that if you're on television, you're probably a shithead who can't be trusted.

Actually thats probably very true. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

You are right and wrong. Saddam WAS a threat to Saudi Arabia back in the day. The keyword being WAS. Saddam was desperate for money back then and probably would have gone into Saudi Arabia had we not stepped in. He had the 5th strongest army in the world at the time I believe.

But that was then. After the first Gulf War, his army was decimated and not allowed to build up again. They were not allowed to fly outside the "no-fly zone" and posed zero threat to Saudi Arabia (especially considering our position out there and ability to step in immediately). He simply didn't have the military power to pose any threat to Saudi Arabia.

So this move is actually bad for Saudi Arabia who will now have to deal with a Shia controlled country. It is why the Saudi Prince came out the other day to bash the occupation of Iraq. I don't think either poses a threat to them, especially with the fact that we'd step in to protect them in a second. But I think their concern is that Iraq will become a breeding ground for anti-Sunni groups that can slowly infiltrate the country and cause trouble.

I agree strongly that the number one thing this country needs right now is to heal the culture gap in this country. It kind of started with Clinton. A lot of people on the right dispised him and they did everything they could to get the white house back after he left office. I think much of the country still has a bitter taste in its mouth over the 2000 election and even to a smaller extent the 2004 election. There are few more polorizing figures in politics than Bush and I think he needs to try to help bring people back together after a long, crazy 6 years. Although I don't think he can do it. We are stuck in Iraq with no end in site and his current policiy seems to be to pass it on to the next president. The democrats who were elected on a campaign the included a heavy dose of "unity for the country" seem only interested in going after the republicans. I have a feeling that unless someone moderate wins the whitehouse in 2008 the gap will only widen.

We trully are a country made up of red and blue states now. It's going to take a hell of an effort to bring them back together.