You'll NEVER get your wish.

I've watched a handful of those people booked on/working on UA93 and UA175 be put in the ground, though.

First, I wasn't referring to, 'those flights' .. just flight 77... and I have no idea.. I'm not an expert.. Just one with some unanswered questions that sure won't be answered in here..

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...riendid=354 9

interesting news clips from the actual day

Who really killed JFK?

Did the CIA kill Bob Marley?

Did we really land on the moon?

Why do packages of hot dogs and buns have different counts?

:1orglaugh

No ideologues reporting there...

What cruise missle? There was a freeway full of witnesses who saw plane hit the building.
Here is his statement about it and you can see that in this version the clip of his discription is of the event is not edit. It was hard to find the original clip since so many liberal websites want to spin his statement on 9/11/01 and edit out what he really said. Mike Walter

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that's all I have to say on that.

"And the lesson is, be happy with what you have, you can always get a hotdog."

umm ya , camera footage is better proof than third party hearsay any day..

i'm not asking for proof the plane hit , reread what i said.. i asked about the footage..


who said anything about thermite..? thats not answering a question lol thats called avoiding the question with meaningless drivel..

What you just did is exactly what my whole post was about. people lumping people together...

I asked WHAT caused the molton steel , not what didnt cause it lol i could post a trillion things that "didnt " cause it.


interesting but it neither answers my question nor really has anything to do with it.. nohing new there just rehash of already known info.

yeah no shit, this really shows how fucking stupid American's are / everyone else

third party hearsay is not proof. proof is the several videotapes that recorded the entire crash..

If your children were killed and the whole accident was caught on videotape, would you be satisfied with a eyewitness account of what happened. or would you like to see the actual video tape.

"NIST concluded that the source of the molten material was aluminum alloys from the aircraft, since these are known to melt between 475 degrees Celsius and 640 degrees Celsius (depending on the particular alloy), well below the expected temperatures (about 1,000 degrees Celsius) in the vicinity of the fires. Aluminum is not expected to ignite at normal fire temperatures and there is no visual indication that the material flowing from the tower was burning.

Pure liquid aluminum would be expected to appear silvery. However, the molten metal was very likely mixed with large amounts of hot, partially burned, solid organic materials (e.g., furniture, carpets, partitions and computers) which can display an orange glow, much like logs burning in a fireplace. The apparent color also would have been affected by slag formation on the surface."

http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm

One eyewitness maybe but not THOUSANDS. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

thats kind of a silly statement dont you think.

I would think our academic testing is the best guage of how "stupid" people are.. especially when its concerning something that happens in your backyard.. its only natural i would think that there are more skeptics when the situation happens to you as opposed to a diff country in a diff place.

besides that i'm not even sure your argument holds water.. i havent seen any "country by country" stats yet on 9/11 opinion , but i doubt theres any huge differences

read my thread entitled " penis melting zionist robot combs" then maybe you will understand true stupidity.:winkwink:

no one ever said "we pulled the building down."

how can i debate you when you make up facts?

i havent heard of any thousands, i have seen less than a half dozen people actually witness it . im sure there are more , but "thousands" is pure imagination. especially since those "thousands" would all have diff stories..

I think your full of shit actually :) seriously :) I'll reask the question and even grant you more eyewitnesses :)

If 1 million people witnessed your family die in an accident , and the accident BY ALL RATIONAL accounts was questionable ( ie no car no family ) would you NOT want to view the actual crash caught on videotape. cmon now answer honestly.. you would wnt to see the videotape AND listen to the accounts. Thats all i'm asking.

Smokey where is this video? I've never seen it.

Is this the gas station video from the first page? Using the same high quality technology gas stations typically use that have a difficult time identifying someone stealing a Snickers bar 5 feet away from the camera? Or is this an actual quality taping?

you cant debate shit because it wasnt a debate or a fact , try re-reading what i wrote it willmake more sense..

The statement i made was what they were supposed to say not what they said..

Instead of jumping to disprove me why not read what i said properly..

I dont think anything fishy happened with wtc7. I think during a hectic situation they realised quite early on they werent going to have the resources to save the building , i'm not sure if they "pulled" it or "pulled out" of it doesnt really matter though other than the fact they werent honest about it. all i asked is for them to be honest , set the record straight..

the statement you quoted was my opinion on what they "should" say

Smokey is simply a sig whore, he doesnt really believe his own shit.

No.. it wasn't edited.. He just forgot to mention that the clip was from a recent interview.. and that the interviewer had his original comments and showed them to him.. He kinda fumbled with his explanation as to why the change of mind...
This was his original report on 9/11.. that he forgot to mention.. and his more recent comment.. What? Did he say ... cruise missle??
Hmm.. From cruise missile to American Airlines jet... Wonder why the change..

no, he expects a piece of shit gas station secuirty camera to to have the same quality as the next star wars.

thats the whole point.

there were several cameras pointing directly at the crash site.

1 from the gas station , (we dont know the quality but i would hazard a guess anything is better than the one we have seen :) )

1 from the marriot i believe roof mounted ( again i dont know the quality )

the most important is the DOT camera that i HAVE seen footage of what it looks like and the camera picture was pretty clear and centered

but i mean arguing about what the quality might or might not be is silly, why not just show them , if they are shitty, they are shitty oh well, i would rather see a shitty video of something than no video of nothing lol.


If your family was killed in plain view of several cameras, would you say " i dont need to see any videos because videos are usually shitty at gas stations " be honest with yourself.. you would want to see any and all videos / pictures / drawing/ mime's lol anything.. right or wrong ?

this is getting tiresome so here's the last link from me.

http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm

there is a wonderful new tool http://google.com try it sometime.

:1orglaugh

Come on...

"It was like a cruise missile with wings... then it burst into flames."

Simile anyone?

He didn't change his story. He clarified using a more literal term instead of his original exaggerated term.

A cruise missile...

Ahaha.

No, I was asking about the quality of video because my line of thinking was... if a shitty video "looks" like a "cruise missile" but many spectators saw an actual airplane, I'm believing the spectators.

I'm still laughing about this whole cruise missile thing. Ahaha.

the video everyone saw..the famous one they re released..came form a pentagon camera


smokeys point was...that why the fuck does the pentagon have a shitty old camera...like 7-11

why not just ask what i expect instead of making silly juvenile claims.

no i didnt ask that .. i said show it .. i dont expect anything other than it to be shown. isnt a hard concept..

do you think accident investigators would simply not view the tape because they had eyewitness ? lol

anyone with a rational mind would review the videotapes and you know it. so instead of acting like a child and making up what i say why not act like an adult and answer the questions posed..

sly there was a missile reported missing from a nearby base


i cant be othered to look up the facts anymore for people
if you really want to know..i bet you could find it

see sig for the facts!

hyuk hyk yup ever heard of google , never heard that joke before hyuk hyuk..

what part of " i dont think anything fish happened at wtc7" do you not understand ?

All i asked is why they dont just clarify what was done, but the typical child you post irrelevent drivel that has nothing to do with what i said..

OMG OMG smokey is crazy look wtc7 debunked OMG ,

if you actually read what i said you would see im not questioning it idiot.. so posting your debunking links just shows you can't comprehend english very well..

I could read til my eyes were numb. My opinion probably wouldn't much. You could do the same. Your opinion isn't going to change much either.

who the fuck knows why they're not going to show it?

national security?

research?

suspicious people in the area caught on tape who are still under investigation?

out of respect for the victims?

then what are you trying to say? clarify it for me.

did you read that link even? if you did you would have seen silverstein's assistant did CLARIFY what he said when he said "pull it."

Silverstein's Quote:

"I remember getting a call from the Fire Department commander, telling me they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, you know, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is just pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse."

Silverstein's spokesperson, Mr. McQuillan, later clarified:

"In the afternoon of September 11, Mr. Silverstein spoke to the Fire Department Commander on site at Seven World Trade Center. The Commander told Mr. Silverstein that there were several firefighters in the building working to contain the fires. Mr. Silverstein expressed his view that the most important thing was to protect the safety of those firefighters, including, if necessary, to have them withdraw from the building."

ah cool..you know on that day the fire chief also made a report saying there were multiple explosions coming from the building

Its funny the excuses people will make to avoid reality..

Someone asks , " i would like to see the video " and the best answers he gets are

"there were eyewitness's"
"security cameras suck"
"it wasnt a cruise missile."

guess what .. i didnt ask "how many eyewitnesses were there ?"
i also didnt ask " so whats the quality on citgo cameras"

i also didnt ask " what wasn't it ? "

Its also funny how people "presume" to know what your thinking or your opinion even when its been pretty clearly stated..

Guess what.

I dont think wtc was bombed i think it happened much like what has been reported, i think the pentagon crash was just as it was described, i dont think anyone high ranking in the u.s. had any credible advanced info on 9/11.

and i still want to see the video tape.. and i still have questions.. being inquisitive is human nature

until you can look at things honestly from BOTH perspectives, your just kidding yourself..

links? proof?

have a friends dad who is an engineer, and a chemist. and familiar with the construction of the towers. he said, that the heat got the steel beams just hot enough to make them "plyable". Then the failure. Thats it folks. No bombs, etc.

bwahaha
lol
:1orglaugh wtf

haha thats the funniest excuse yet..