Sure the US is a little agressive with it's politics but beyond that why do so many of you hate the US?

When was the last time the US invaded your country ? When was the last time your Country was invaded and the US saved your ass. So the US invaded IRAQ, you don't like Bush, is this why you hate us ?

Or is it just he cool thing to hate or jealousy ? Honest question. Why all the hate ? If Germany invaded Iran, I wouldn't hate Germany. All of you over there at one time or another invaded each other. SO the US invaded a shit hole, pile of sand in the desert. SO Bush lied and said it was about terrorism, when we all know it was about world stability and securing the oil prices IN THE COUNTRY. Do you think if oil stops coming out of the middle east, do you think it will only affect the US ? If Iraq started shooting off nukes to isreal and they shot back, do you think this could affect the rest of us? Are some of you really stupid enough to think that bush went to war with Iraq so haliburtan, et all. could get a fat contract ??? Hey that might have been icing on the cake but you are a moron if you think he went to war so his buddies could get a contract.

Why do you think the US went to war with Iraq, and is this reason why you hate the US ? Is there any other reasons?

Surely, you don't hate our money? it has to be something about us you don't like. Instead of all the bullshit threads and posts, why don't you just put it all out on the table.

Not everyone who doesn't fully agree with you hates you

LOL lets get it straight, do we have to stick to the title of the thread or not. I can't keep up with you.


How about this, lets say you are a moron, and you make a bunch of posts and I am not going to waste my time replyingto you any more, there that was 3 hands used to explain that to you, i hope you get it. :1orglaugh

How about if Iraq invaded Kuwait ???? :1orglaugh

expected.... :1orglaugh

Im here bitch, get some.

okay....... i am pretty sure I didn't say "everyone" hates us. I do think there is a good bit in this thread though. And I didn't point any fingers, so what i said applies to the people who do hate us, and I think those people know who they are. If it's not you, than it doesn't apply to you. Seems simple enough.

People like Directfiesta dont just disagree they HATE, they attack attack attack the USA in every forum(online and offline) they can.

And before you make a comparison between him and I, maybe you can say we both hate and I will accept that but my hate is in response to their attacks.

i agree too much bullshit for anyone to keep up with, note other people replying to you in this thread. You seem to be the only person that can keep your bullshit straight.

I am proud to say I can't keep up with you :thumbsup :1orglaugh

I don't hate Iraq.

Last i checked the whole world (even middle eastern countries) supported that something was to be done about that situation. WTF are you trying to say ?


I swear my last post to you, take your best shots, i wont be replying to you.

please do actual quotes.... You can quote any forums of your choice ... but not the offline :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I asked before that you quote, and never did...

What I do hate is idiots , liars and false fact spreaders ... you are all of that.

quotes and links ... of your claims... or I will ask that you be banned. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/search...nduser&u=14061
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I assure you... ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

You might see that its going there... but that time wont come. :winkwink:

splum youve got your head way to much up the ass of politics... stop these desperate defend posts & work instead, youll thank me later

Come on all you haters lets hear what you say about this......nothing thats what I thought.

Best thing said on this thread so far.

China is tied to the US economy in that we buy everything from them...while we have nothing to offer but a declining dollar.

We could change those rules and still survive pretty easily, they on the other hand wouldnt.

We Americans tend to be very nationalistic and quite sensitive to insults.

We're a young country, and unlike so many of our European allies, haven't yet suffered through the genocides, the state-sanctioned horrors, or been betrayed by the leaders and administrations who were, ostensibly, in place to protect us.

Sure, we've had our share of shitty, corrupt inept heads of state, but they don't compare to Mussolini, Hitler or Stalin (putting aside all the dead Indians and slavery, of course), at least where preying physically on the electorate is concerned.

Americans often believe the government has our best interest at heart. Cynicism does not come naturally to our experience because we (collectively) haven't experienced that kind of hell first hand.

That isn't to say there isn't plenty of injustice here, or that there aren't a ton of cynics in the U.S. You know there are. We're not all hayseeds drinking the kool aid.

But the fact is, much of our cynicism is skewed. It comes from studying the broader, historical view, understanding the cyclical nature of empire-building, reading about other nations' dark histories, their struggles to overcome fascism, etc., as opposed to our own.

But stay tuned ladies and gentleman! It's only been 200+ years! This is still ACT I!

WTF is that ..... ? a list of posts .... There is hosting, scripts ....

Quote threads I started....

BTW, the banned thing was a joke ( that is why there was :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh ) at the end ).

I don't hate the US at all, but people like Splum will automatically think I do if I make one negative comment about the way the US works. In the US, it's not only our right but our responsibility to question our leaders.

I don't think the US is going to lose its edge anytime soon, but I have witnessed a worsening of the economic situation under Republican control of the executive branch. Are these two things related? Perhaps, but there are a million other variables to look at. In all reality, the government doesn't have as much control over the economy as people would like to believe, the real economic power lies at the very top of the various industries that represent the US...and at the very top is oil and pharmaceuticals, with a few others vying for top brass (tobacco, media, etc). These select few top dogs have tremendous pull in the government and can virtually rewrite the laws and the very systems themselves, they've been doing it for decades. Ironically, it usually ends up BEING members of the top brass that end up in politics anyways...the Bushes and their oil, Dole and his tobacco, Rumsfield and his pharmaceuticals, etc.

As far as China goes...don't get your hopes up. The country's own self-defeating government will make sure that only those at the very top profit, and the poverty-stricken majority stay poverty-stricken. A world power within the next 20 years? Yeah right...ain't gonna happen...unless the US invades them too and replaces their current legitimate (although crap) government with a puppet government (hey, sorta like in Iraq).

Well put and I didnt attack you at all. :thumbsup

still waiting for actual quotes of USA hating threads....


Unless saying that USA is having problems is hating... then I hate all countries because we all have problems. :2 cents:

Still waiting for you to back up your accusations ... but am not holding my breath...

Oh Im sure we will argue again directfiesta, Ill be watching. For now I digress. :winkwink:

no offense, but you need to update your info about EU

"share a common currency"...:disgust

For those of you that dont read the newspapers that focus on finance - the point thats being missed here is that China is already #1 in capital/cash reserves - way more than Japan or the US - and they hold enough US paper(mostly US bonds) that if they made a move to create their own fund they would drive up interest rates in the US to the point that a good portion of the newer mortages would default and cause astronomical borrowing rates in the US - something they have avoided on purpose as they try to take over a few more US companies(the recent Unocal try comes to mind)
Recently you may have heard of the stock market "little crash" about a month ago - that was triggered by a little sell off in Chinese stocks - so they definitely have an influence over the worlds markets

Stating your reverence for the USA or playing political stupidity games has nothing to do with what really happens in the economic markets - even someone like Saudi Arabia could bankrupt the US tomorrow if they had a reason with as much as they own in the US markets

so, no links .... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

not only full of shit, but full of air.... go hate.

blah blah blah de blah blah

go usa!

You cannot say that ... unless you HATE AMERICA.....

You can lie tough ... that is patriotic :)

i really don't get why people think china is going to be the next big superpower. it will only happen if the US lets them basically. if the US cut all trade off with them, they would shrink pretty damn fast. lets face it, there just isn't the population in europe that there is in the states, they don't need as much cheap shit imported. communist countries aren't big buyers. and asian countries all have their own cheap labour, unless that changes i don't see how china whos economy is so dependent on the states could survive if the US economy crumbles.

I was in europe a few years ago and used EURO, it was good in different countries there = share a common currency? I didn't say they all did away with there own, but the EURO is good in the EU correct or am I wrong ?

I am sure there is more to it than just that, but it is a far streach from having 1 leader, 1 army, 1 legal system, etc... IE, you can't compare the EU to the US.

Sorry - I fought and served in the military for 12 years (not as an instructer at some midwest school either) for every Americans right to have an opinion and to voice it anywhere anytime they want. Unfortunately there are a few "citizens" that obviously missed a few classes in school when they talked about what it really means to be an American, and instead let idiotic paid pundits drive their ideas and voices for them - its a shame that people in this country can no longer think for themselves - and more importantly - get labelled "un-American" if they vocalize those thoughts.

I believe it was an earlier generation than mine that produced such phrases as
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it

and from my generation:
Our duty is not merely the preservation of political
power but the preservation of peace and freedom
(This was the keystone of the speech JFK was going to give in Dallas the day he was shot)

People got soft and forgot what made us great.

We ceased to be a nation of one in a time of war.

The American left undermined a good decent President, for partisan purposes, harming our national interests.

Wow you have done your homework, where did YOU serve?

Yeah too bad about that JFK guy, shot you say? Wonder why?

you are wrong....the US is doing the RIGHT thing because this world wont be around for another 100 years...yes 100 years

All soldiers are great cannon fodder. :1orglaugh

This rhetoric has been around for nearly a century. Everyday there is someone coming out pronouncing the collapse of the US and its economy. Heck, if you go back 5 years on this board, you'll find similar posts claiming the US is doomed any day now.

Most of these theories aren't being brought up by real economic guys, but rather conspiracy theorists worried about a "new world order" and the federal reserve crap that kids eat up. There isn't a whole lot of factual evidence to back up the impending doom of the US. While stating that China will catch up to us with their current economic growth, you also have to realize that they will never be able to sustain this growth for the next couple decades. Sure they're going to be a major player economically, but when viewing their rate of growth, one must also realize that the country was an economic disaster decades ago.

But the funniest part about this is the talk of the dollar amount that we are in debt. Yes it's a lot, but our GDP is huge. When comparing it to the GDP, our national debt is small compared to countries like Japan. Heck, Canada has a higher public debt compared to the US.

If you say the US will collapse because of their national debt, you must also say Japan, Canada, Italy, Greece, Israel, Germany and France are on the verge of collapse.

No country or empire ever maintains their prominence. They all fail sooner or later. It's not rhetoric, it's historical fact.


External debt - total public and private debt owed to nonresidents repayable in foreign currency, goods, or services

US - 80% debt to GDP
Canada - 60% debt to GDP
Japan - 34% debt to GDP