Capital Collect Services, LLC ?????????? - GoFuckYourself.com

Jake · 03-26-2007, 09:18 AM

??????????

Jake · 03-26-2007, 09:57 AM

Bump for program owners and affiliate managers.

96ukssob · 03-26-2007, 10:01 AM

http://capitalcollect.com/ ??

dunno what it is, but #1 on google for "Capital Collect Services"

by the name, it looks like a debt collector

TheDoc · 03-26-2007, 10:03 AM

What's the question?

Phoenix · 03-26-2007, 10:12 AM

what is the question you are asking?

03-26-2007, 10:14 AM

the russian answer to epassporte LOL ?

corvette · 03-26-2007, 10:19 AM

oh boy...

Jake · 03-26-2007, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix

what is the question you are asking?

We've identified suspicious activity on several affiliate accounts. The one thing they had in common was Capital Collection Services, LLC.

Capital Collection Services appears to be some sort of registered agent or something to that effect. They are located in the U.S. and appear to collect payouts from sponsor programs on behalf of affiliates and then forward the payments to affiliates located abroad.

They themselves appear to be legit as we have at least one affiliate sending valid sales using Capital Collection Services however the most recent affiliate accounts we've found using them are sending fraudulent sales.

Any other programs have any experience with Capital Collection Services?

NinjaSteve · 03-26-2007, 11:15 AM

Iiiiiiiiiiiinteresting.

Clark · 03-26-2007, 11:19 AM

Jake - They are just as you noted a payment agent for non-US (Mostly russians) to use to receive checks. So the only reason you finding them to have ccs in common is because the affilates are all foreigners.
I've killed a number of affiliates using ccs but I have several good affilates that use them.

Jake · 03-26-2007, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clark

Jake - They are just as you noted a payment agent for non-US (Mostly russians) to use to receive checks. So the only reason you finding them to have ccs in common is because the affilates are all foreigners.
I've killed a number of affiliates using ccs but I have several good affilates that use them.

That's what I suspected, thanks for the confirmation! We'll just have to keep a closer eye on those particular accounts as it seems like an extra layer of protection for those who are looking to run a scam (not that everyone using them is).

Seems I've been spending a lot of time dealing with affiliate fraud lately. What I can't understand is how it can possiblu be profitable for the fraudsters. In all the years we've had our program open we have not once paid out on a fraudulent affiliate account. Yes, they've gotten sales through on us and in some cases we've had to deal with the chargebacks as a result however we've always caught the fraud BEFORE the affiliate was paid and his account was termed.

I would think that all affiliate programs would have similiar fraud measures in place that would identify the fraud before the affiliate was paid thus eliminating any reason for the fraudsters to continue scamming.

kristin · 03-26-2007, 11:37 AM

Yeah, I have some webmasters that use a similiar thing in the UK.

I would hold their check for one pay period to check for fraud, but most of them are legit and big webmasters.

Purple Haze · 03-26-2007, 11:52 AM

Jake, hit me up on ICQ about it ;)

Purple Haze

TheDoc · 03-26-2007, 01:41 PM

Thanks for the tip jake... On my nats at least the full name is set to: Capital Collect

6 paycom sales, not one member login, webmaster ip is russian, and on my trial program this guy has 6 full month sales, steady ratio, coming from my ripped galleries on his domain, steady 1:350ish ratio.

EGC wise, I have banned Capital Collect Services, LLC from an allowed service. Some are fine, but this one is already showing abuse.

Jake · 03-26-2007, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Purple Haze

Jake, hit me up on ICQ about it ;)

Purple Haze

Is this Hazel? I don't believe I have you on ICQ can you please hit me up 159-623-433.

Jake · 03-26-2007, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Thanks for the tip jake... On my nats at least the full name is set to: Capital Collect

6 paycom sales, not one member login, webmaster ip is russian, and on my trial program this guy has 6 full month sales, steady ratio, coming from my ripped galleries on his domain, steady 1:350ish ratio.

EGC wise, I have banned Capital Collect Services, LLC from an allowed service. Some are fine, but this one is already showing abuse.

No problem, glad I could help. It's amazing how much time is wasted policing this shit!

Bruce_Miller · 03-26-2007, 08:02 PM

Thanks for the heads up Jake...

We just had our first fraud case last month, they got us for a little money, but then we changed our policies, and it won't happen again.

Jake · 03-26-2007, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce_Miller

Thanks for the heads up Jake...

We just had our first fraud case last month, they got us for a little money, but then we changed our policies, and it won't happen again.

Juicy George · 03-26-2007, 09:39 PM

We have a couple of russian affiliates who use CCS and appear to be legit. Most have moved to epassporte or paypal recently though.

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Clark Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: L.A. Posts: 334	Jake - They are just as you noted a payment agent for non-US (Mostly russians) to use to receive checks. So the only reason you finding them to have ccs in common is because the affilates are all foreigners. I've killed a number of affiliates using ccs but I have several good affilates that use them. __________________ The 2 rules for success: 1. Never reveal everything you know 2. Last edited by Clark; 03-26-2007 at 11:19 AM.. Reason: sp

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kristin GOO! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Back Home : ) Posts: 9,768	Yeah, I have some webmasters that use a similiar thing in the UK. I would hold their check for one pay period to check for fraud, but most of them are legit and big webmasters. __________________ Vacares rules. "Usually only fat guys have the kind of knowledge and ability that Kristin has."

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03-26-2007, 01:41 PM	#14
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	Thanks for the tip jake... On my nats at least the full name is set to: Capital Collect 6 paycom sales, not one member login, webmaster ip is russian, and on my trial program this guy has 6 full month sales, steady ratio, coming from my ripped galleries on his domain, steady 1:350ish ratio. EGC wise, I have banned Capital Collect Services, LLC from an allowed service. Some are fine, but this one is already showing abuse. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

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Bruce_Miller Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 4REALCASH.COM Posts: 783	Thanks for the heads up Jake... We just had our first fraud case last month, they got us for a little money, but then we changed our policies, and it won't happen again.

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Juicy George Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Aussie Posts: 289	We have a couple of russian affiliates who use CCS and appear to be legit. Most have moved to epassporte or paypal recently though. __________________ MSN - [email protected] Yahoo - [email protected] AIM - juicygeorgy ICQ -392086396