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Jake 03-26-2007 09:18 AM

Capital Collect Services, LLC ??????????
 
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Jake 03-26-2007 09:57 AM

Bump for program owners and affiliate managers.

96ukssob 03-26-2007 10:01 AM

http://capitalcollect.com/ ??

dunno what it is, but #1 on google for "Capital Collect Services"

by the name, it looks like a debt collector

TheDoc 03-26-2007 10:03 AM

What's the question?

Phoenix 03-26-2007 10:12 AM

what is the question you are asking?

ThumbLord 03-26-2007 10:14 AM

the russian answer to epassporte LOL ?

corvette 03-26-2007 10:19 AM

oh boy...

Jake 03-26-2007 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 12149649)
what is the question you are asking?

We've identified suspicious activity on several affiliate accounts. The one thing they had in common was Capital Collection Services, LLC.

Capital Collection Services appears to be some sort of registered agent or something to that effect. They are located in the U.S. and appear to collect payouts from sponsor programs on behalf of affiliates and then forward the payments to affiliates located abroad.

They themselves appear to be legit as we have at least one affiliate sending valid sales using Capital Collection Services however the most recent affiliate accounts we've found using them are sending fraudulent sales.

Any other programs have any experience with Capital Collection Services?

NinjaSteve 03-26-2007 11:15 AM

Iiiiiiiiiiiinteresting.

Clark 03-26-2007 11:19 AM

Jake - They are just as you noted a payment agent for non-US (Mostly russians) to use to receive checks. So the only reason you finding them to have ccs in common is because the affilates are all foreigners.
I've killed a number of affiliates using ccs but I have several good affilates that use them.

Jake 03-26-2007 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clark (Post 12149999)
Jake - They are just as you noted a payment agent for non-US (Mostly russians) to use to receive checks. So the only reason you finding them to have ccs in common is because the affilates are all foreigners.
I've killed a number of affiliates using ccs but I have several good affilates that use them.

That's what I suspected, thanks for the confirmation! We'll just have to keep a closer eye on those particular accounts as it seems like an extra layer of protection for those who are looking to run a scam (not that everyone using them is).

Seems I've been spending a lot of time dealing with affiliate fraud lately. What I can't understand is how it can possiblu be profitable for the fraudsters. In all the years we've had our program open we have not once paid out on a fraudulent affiliate account. Yes, they've gotten sales through on us and in some cases we've had to deal with the chargebacks as a result however we've always caught the fraud BEFORE the affiliate was paid and his account was termed.

I would think that all affiliate programs would have similiar fraud measures in place that would identify the fraud before the affiliate was paid thus eliminating any reason for the fraudsters to continue scamming.

kristin 03-26-2007 11:37 AM

Yeah, I have some webmasters that use a similiar thing in the UK.

I would hold their check for one pay period to check for fraud, but most of them are legit and big webmasters.

Purple Haze 03-26-2007 11:52 AM

Jake, hit me up on ICQ about it ;)

Purple Haze

TheDoc 03-26-2007 01:41 PM

Thanks for the tip jake... On my nats at least the full name is set to: Capital Collect

6 paycom sales, not one member login, webmaster ip is russian, and on my trial program this guy has 6 full month sales, steady ratio, coming from my ripped galleries on his domain, steady 1:350ish ratio.

EGC wise, I have banned Capital Collect Services, LLC from an allowed service. Some are fine, but this one is already showing abuse.

Jake 03-26-2007 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Purple Haze (Post 12150173)
Jake, hit me up on ICQ about it ;)

Purple Haze

Is this Hazel? I don't believe I have you on ICQ can you please hit me up 159-623-433.

Jake 03-26-2007 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 12150890)
Thanks for the tip jake... On my nats at least the full name is set to: Capital Collect

6 paycom sales, not one member login, webmaster ip is russian, and on my trial program this guy has 6 full month sales, steady ratio, coming from my ripped galleries on his domain, steady 1:350ish ratio.

EGC wise, I have banned Capital Collect Services, LLC from an allowed service. Some are fine, but this one is already showing abuse.

No problem, glad I could help. It's amazing how much time is wasted policing this shit!

Bruce_Miller 03-26-2007 08:02 PM

Thanks for the heads up Jake...

We just had our first fraud case last month, they got us for a little money, but then we changed our policies, and it won't happen again.

Jake 03-26-2007 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce_Miller (Post 12152723)
Thanks for the heads up Jake...

We just had our first fraud case last month, they got us for a little money, but then we changed our policies, and it won't happen again.

:winkwink:

Juicy George 03-26-2007 09:39 PM

We have a couple of russian affiliates who use CCS and appear to be legit. Most have moved to epassporte or paypal recently though.


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