I dont know why people would promote this kind of shit

Thats some fucked up shit. Pure greed...

awe rocks!!!

YEAH!!!! Now we're resurrecting lame ass shit from 8 months ago from the dead, just so we can bash another sponsor!

You guys are so lame. :321GFY

No reason to bump this..

I would never promote a company that offers a % deal of sales but it is only good for 14 days. You might as well be on a PPS deal then. You are not building recurring, long term income. It really isn't much different than pps since you have such a short people of time to collect from the member.

People saying compare your earnings etc.. You would really have to put another company side by side with them for over a year to give it a true comparison. If you try it out for a couple weeks/months, how do you know you wouldn't make more from the other program. Some people continue to be buy for months even years. So you finally land that whale and you only get him for 14 days, fuck that.

pulled my links when i heard this shady shit :Oh crap

If Will76 is saying to "fuck that" then you should. As far as I'm concerned, Will76 is the WEBCAM MASTER.

You guys bashing Awe must not have tried their program. Even with the 14 day cookie it or I should say BECAUSE of the 14 day cookie it is one of the best cam programs.
Awe doesnt own the members after the 14 days. You can resell them or any other webmaster can sell them. This keeps the program under saturated and allows a webmaster to sell someone that normaly they couldnt. Most webmasters promoting Awe actually like the 14 days.

My average conversion rate for the year is 1:150 with this period being 1:32 with a great support forum and promo tools.:thumbsup

But you have to remember that with AWE you have a Giant sellable customer base, the customer is not AWE's it fair game after the 14 days, not like a lifetime revshare, where joe customer goes to your site, buys and you own him...
That plays out well for a lot of people, because if a customer that comes to your site say with cams.com and they are "owned" by someone else you are NEVER getting paid of that guy, but with AWE you will if he hasn't been cookied in 14 days....
I find that some of these people buy a ton and you can tell by the pricing they are old AWE customers that I am making $700 off of...

The customer base with AWE is more sellable, but not always to you! I like it but that's me...

last time I looked they were making the most per unique
thats all that matters to me.

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what the fuck are you people talking about. that was two posts in a row with the same bullshit.

I've been doing this for 8 years and I don't have a clue what the fuck you are saying so that leaves me to believe that what you are saying is bullshit.

So someone signs up to livejasmine through me, 15 days later the same person logs back into his account to load more cam time, i don't get credit because i had a 14 day cookie? But you are saying it is not AWE's either so who gets credit for the sale? no one??? so AWE makes all the money instead of paying an affiliate. Once the person is signed up and his credit card is on file you are not going to " sell him again". He will stay on file with that card till the card expires and he will likely replace it with a new card. Its not like people with existing accounts sign up to new accounts over and over agian.

your example of cams.com is bullshit. If someone is already signed up to cams.com through me and they happen across your site and see cams.com they are not going to signup again you retarded fuck, they already have an account.


This " after14 days it is fair game" logic if fucking bullshit. you have to totally fucking retarded to believe this shit. the only way it would be " fair game" is if after 14 days AWE cancelled their account, kicked them back into cyber space and told them to find their way back through someone else's advertisement.

next time, before you post something so fucking stupid please shoot yourself first, i don't think anyone here is dumb enough to buy it, and that is saying a lot considering the intelligence level around here.

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if i say it, you know there is truth to it.

lets take this a step further.

Say I advertise the site to a surfer and he doesn't signup to livejasmine right away. I linked him to livejasmine through my site. My cookie is set, his wife comes home he can't signup. 15 days later he remembers the name of the site, he types in livejasmine.com and he signs up. I don't get credit right ? Say that person drops $1000 I get $0. How much does live jasmine make ?

Even that way its bullshit. There is no need to expire cookies. *IF* the surfer is not signed up yet, I agree he is fair game. If i can't sell him, but my cookie is on his pc, and then 2 months later he sees your add, and you sell him, you should get credit for the sale. You sold him. But that has nothing to do with 14 day cookies. The way cookies work, the new cookie will overwrite the old cookie. It doesn't matter if the old cookie is 14 days or 14 hours old. The new cookie replaces the old one. So there is no need to expire cookies. THE ONLY reason to expire cookies is for the website to make sales without paying affiliates.

I would never promote a company like this for pps or revshare it is total bullshit. There is no way one cam site is going to make you more off of a % deal in 14 days then another cam site will make you off of a % deal over years. That is bullshit. you people making the comparison aren't taking the long term sales into account. you are screwing yourself on thousands of sales that come weeks/months/years later that you haven't factored in.

AGREE!!!

Always a fool who uses them.

In a nutshell... This basically spells it out for all of the rookies...

Time for AWE to have this thread deleted.

You dont get it..THEY DONT HAVE TO SIGN UP AGAIN.
with the awe program you can sell existing members. Say an existing whale member is surfing and passes through your site you can Resell him even if he is a member as long as he picks up your cookie before he makes his next purchase.

It has been discussed over and over, you can make nice money with them, but you can only advertise them on sites that ensure a good percentage of the visitors come back again and again or you'll be out of the game after 14 days.

So, great program, but don't try advertising it the way you may be used to. It's shit as an addon in a blog sidebar for example, but can do wonders when you build some good sites for it.

Thats actually how it works but you're too busy spewing your bullshit to realize that.

wow, i didnt know that.

no its not you retard

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double post

after 14 days the customer is back in the pool and any other webmaster
can get credits off him.
But what do you know, keep posting...

because i have been a surfer and webmaster of AWE before!

I put credits in, 14 days later, I repayed, did i visit a free site then visit awe? Nope I typed in Livejasmin.com into my browser and logged in with my username. did the first webmaster get the credits, no, did awe make 100% of the sale(/affiliate)? yes



stop talking shit.

nobody denied that. Make sure you understand whats being talked first.

well sorry, but i am getting confused here



you replied to this

"the only way it would be " fair game" is if after 14 days AWE cancelled their account"

well awe does not cancel the account. which you said they did, "thats exactly how it works"

where am i going wrong here?

You got to be fucking kidding me, let me see if i get this straight.

I pay for advertising. I convince the surfer to signup to livejasmin, he puts in his credit card and he makes an account. I ONLY get paid for what he spends during his first 14 days. After 14 days he is still a member. If he drops $2,000 on day 15 AWE makes 100% and doesn't have to pay me. If this same member happens to come across you site, clicks a link and sees it is for livejasmin and he leaves because he knows he already has an account. So your cookie is set on his computer for 14 days and if he buys time in 14 days YOU get credit for the sale???

WTF, that is even more fucked up than i thought. You didn't sell the person, you just got him to click your link, you could have had a blind link, tgp skim, it could have been anything. You could have been cookie stuffing eveyone who hits your site. You didn't sell shit, you just got your cookie on their pc and AWE rewards you by giving you credit for what the person spends over the next 14 days? You didn't sell shit, I sold that person. It was me that introduced him to the site, it was my add that got him to take out his credit card and signup, but I only get 14 days from him. And anyone else who can set their cookie on his site gets 14 days too. And if no cookie is set by anyone then AWE makes 100% those times.

Please tell me that you explained it wrong and this is not how it works, if so that has to be the most retarded system I have ever heard of. So all i have to do is buy millions of hits, cheap traffic and cookie stuff. Odds are some of the people who will hit the site have AWE accounts and I will get 14 day shot at them.... Wonderfull program, way to compensate the people who are actually doing the work (getting them to signup).

I have the perfect way to advertise them. Set up a hidden iframe on all my sites and set the cookie when someone comes to my site. I will be rewarded for all my hard work by making sales for 14 days from people who already have AWE accounts. What did I contribute in the way of new customers or sales ? ZERO. but i get rewarded and paid and the people who got them to signup initially get dick ? Great program. Who thought up that brillant system ?

no, that's how it works will

You missed what I was saying, that they would have to SIGN UP again, as explained here that is not what is happening. They are not taking their credit card out again and signup to the site. I seriously doubt a site would stay in busiiness if their customers had to keep resigning up to it every 14 days. Don't worry I will type slower for you if you fall behind. :2 cents:

Easy Question:

If a whale joins from your link and spends $1000's over months and months , how did you get paid???

Answer: You didn't.

Explain to me again how that is fair???

Anyone that doesn't get that the real money in a cam system is long term is selling themselves short.

Especially when the 14 day cookie was never explained up front.

There are a lot of ways a cam company can short you. Hit me up, I will be glad to explain them all to you.. no sales pitches, promise.

Stop giving away the hidden Iframes. Thanks

it sounds like a bunch of short sighted people to me or people who are exploiting the way AWE works.

The people who send lower volume high quality traffic are getting screwed. They are the affiliates who are actually getting new customers to AWE. But they lose them after 14 days. They look at their stats and compare their sales today vs their sales today with another cam program. But they don't factor in all of the sales they are losing weeks/months/years from now.

The people who promote AWE with high volume trash traffic (tgp skim, 404, exit page, etc..) they probably love AWE, they would likely never convert new customers into signing up, but there is a very good chance that existing customers may happen to hit their sites, even if just for a couple seconds. just long enough for their cookie to get set.

So the people who have crap traffic probably do make more money with AWE than if they were using other programs. Congrats to them for finding a company that rewards the people with crap traffic who don't bring in new customers. AWE takes the people with the quality traffic and pays them less so they can reward the crap affiliates who produce nothing.

brillant :upsidedow if you have quality traffic I wouldn't touch this program. If you have a lot of shit traffic and you can't make signups of your own, it sounds like AWE is the perfect program for you, just cookie the stuff the hell out of your traffic. :thumbsup :warning

Don't know about anyone else, but when I do revshare, it's for the volume gained over time..

If you send a paying customer, and get no commission for time purchased after 14 days, then they should say '14 day revshare' ..
Wonder why they don't do that... The answer should be obvious... and yes... it's very misleading... regardless what any fine print says..

hummm, idk but hey whn you find out let us all knw...

how about using the pay-per-signup option instead?

That's an obvious option, but many affiliates prefer revshare... hoping for the whale...
When choosing revshare, the common assumption is that it is just that.. They will share in the revenue for any customer they deliver to a sponsor, as long as the customer uses the sponsoring site..
When they're not told any different, they should be safe in assuming the definition of revshare hasn't changed...