hm...anyone know a nice WHITE LABEL cam solution then?

VS is in the 50% that don't shave, in that case :)

With VS, it is revshare for life - period.

Please check us out if you aren't already promoting us.

:thumbsup

I've seen some nice cobrands from Camsense - CamContacts, but have never really promoted them. I believe you have to go to www.ccnetwork.com to sign up for their cobrand.

Jeff , (facial) shaving is necessary for good hygene. Otherwise, when you go to the shows, affiliates will think you are a hippie.

No need to state the obvious, everyone here knows our reputation. :thumbsup

I am a hippie to the 100th power then....haha

Great I just wasted my time building a page to promote them, now I'm going to have to take it down, I forgot they were doing this, the greedy fuckers, surely they know they are losing business over this?

losing money??? ROFL....the problem here is that they are stealing money by being deceptive, therefor making MORE money for themselves

Nice skin AWE. :)

Yep, great skin



:upsidedow

Wow you would think GFY would close this thread....

:winkwink:

Nice skin...

pink rulezzz

There's also one thing that hasn't been mentioned here - the cookie swapping. If a surfer stops using your site to get to LiveJasmin, he doesn't necessarily belong to AWE after 14 days. That surfer can still make any other webmaster money, all he has to do is stumble into another site that has a LiveJasmin ref link and click it. I believe this can happen even after he registered and spent money under you.

The same can happen to you, a surfer that regularly spends money at LiveJasmin and that's been 'owned' by several other webmaster in the past, may come across your site and make you an instant sale. With some luck you can net a known whale for a few days and ride it till it lasts, although more than likely the big whales have the LiveJasmin url bookmarked or get there by typing in the domain.

Having said that, I wonder if anyone else noticed a drop in sales when the sale amount of the top 5 webmasters of the AWE list increased dramatically? I honestly don't remember seeing such high sale amounts like now. For about a year the highest I would see there was $45K maybe, but for the past few months there's 3-4 webmasters with making $70-$200K in sales per pay period!? They must be making it hard for many webmasters to get their own cookies, no? Or maybe I'm just paranoid. :pimp

This is mind blowing news to me as I bet it is to everyone.

To only have a 14 day cookie amounts to nothing short of robbery.

I just put up a stack of links to AWE too. Now I am going to oull them all down.

Moocash gives you 35% revshare for LIFE!!

Doesn't anyone from AWE have anything to say about this?

That is incorrect.

I'm sure this has been pointed out already, but I'm not scanning 2 pages of replies ... I'm tired and about to log off.

The surfer goes back into the pool, so ANY webmaster (or none) can earn off him/her. So no, AWE does NOT take all the money.

And as unfair as it may sound it helps keep the program unsaturated ... mathematically, for the surfers you lose to another webmaster, you get them back the same way. Conversion rates remain steady and there's always a pool of potential customers for you.

Anyhow this has all be debated before, nothing new. There are a lot of people promoting them who seem to be doing okay. If you try them and don't see the results you like, stop. I don't know if Jace has promoted them but for anyone speaking out against it who hasn't tried them, your opinion doesn't really matter.

:2 cents:

I could accept that but it is the fact that once you have the customer you only get 14 days worth of recurring. If the guy doesnt spend then you get 0%. This is NOT made clear on their site.

I can tell this much about the one who has been consistently making over 170k for the last few months.

He dont make it hard for other webmasters becuase he is sending awe a ton business that were @ first (not) looking for webcam girls.

He has a nice list of sweet type in domain names that get a ton of traffic. 1 is so sweet becuase it get a ton of extra traffic from google even though it's not even optimised for this mega keyword that get searched thousands of times a day.

In my opinion this is a perfect example of how people are losing money by not mixing cams with their porn and porn on their cam sites.

Now think about this....

The 14 day cookie gives other webmasters a shot @ this ton of new customers if they start surfing for cam girls just to see whats out there.

so, what happens to them in the in between time when i lose them after the 14 days and no other webmaster has them cookied? no one gets the income?

btw, I actually was promoting their revshare until I found this out, then I was about to setup a cobrand because I heard I never lose them if I use the cobrand....but THEN i heard that even though I use a cobrand front page, nothing else is cobranded...LOL...so what is the point?

Of course someone gets the income. AWE does.

there was a few long threads in the past regarding this issue. awe responded.

imo they shouldnt call it revshare , they should call it 14 day revshare. It still serves a purpose.

AWE offers pps but people make more money with revshare , even if its only 14days .. as far as other sponsors and how long their revshare lasts.. or how much of a percentage they pay..

90% of nothing is still nothing :winkwink:

14 day revshare on $1000 is still more :)

They make good money for me! no complaints

Interesting, what's the point of 2 weeks when the real income from revenue share starts coming in within a month or so? After promoting camsense for a month you can get a customer base that will feed you for a year. It's that simple.

I don't know if they are still doing it, but when the PPS option was launched they set it up so that after the first affiliate referrs the member, no other affiliate will get credit for referring that same member ever again. AWE owns them for lifetime.

Now that's mighty nice of them. :)

i would think most cam sites work this way .. otherwise they would be paying pps everytime a surfer bought more minutes...

like usually on camsits you create a "handle" or username as a surfer right.. so i would assumewith most camsites if the user was signed up thru a pps affiliate that all the future minutes he purchased would belong to sponsor , even if he visitied thru another affiliates revshare or pps link later on and bought more minutes.

Whoops no answer from them yet ?

yes, they gave their answer, on here and on their own board, many time

Looking at this thread again, one thing that really strikes me... why do AWE only pay 30% when they're going to be making $ for the life of the member anyway? Shouldn't they be paying higher since they're retaining the member?

For example, if a hypothetical member spends $10 a week on chatting then after a year AWE have grossed $520... but only $6 of that gets paid to the referring webmaster!

(FWIW, this isn't completely hypothetical. The average spend per member per year with another sponsor that offers REAL revshare is very similar to this.)

Looking at my previous msg another more simple way:

PPS pays you more than the value of one month of revshare because they keep the member.

Because they can.

I must have mis that :error


Nice skin anyway :upsidedow

This Thread Is Now Closed.

very worth considering closely.. :Oh crap

Yes, double closed.

tripple closed

Check sig for payouts lasting more then 14 days :thumbsup

This is completely fucked up.