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Jace 03-22-2007 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kektex (Post 12133397)
Another important thing I forgot about WP that sucks SEO wise is that you have to check if your theme has the same meta description tag on all pages.
Either write unique ones (which is the best solution) or dont use the description meta tag and let the bots decide the snippet of content they are going to use.
The last solution is not good because (as I learnt the hard way) sometimes the designs might have, for example, your side menu text first.Then all your descriptions in your google serps will have the menu text in them.And a good description on the serps might be what gets the surfer clicking to your blog.

I use this plugin that lets me write the meta description tag, or if Iīm lazy it just takes the first sentences of the post for the description:
http://guff.szub.net/2005/09/01/head-meta-description/

yup, I use the AutoMeta plugin, it fucking rocks

mattz 03-22-2007 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by webgeek (Post 12132600)
When do the webmasters will understand ?
RSS syndication is going to ruin your business.
You're all grabbing the same RSS feeds again and again and posting it without any mofication. You're thinking you'll put the sign-ups to autopilot but all you'll get is a HUGE BAN FROM GOOGLE.

doesn't anyone hear about content duplication???

everyday at least 4-5 threads are asking for RSS feeds. you'll just ruin your business. it's redicilous...

lol thanks for a great laugh, rss feeds make me thousands a month

I've never once used a rss feed on any of my sites with not editing / rewriting them first:2 cents:

kektex 03-22-2007 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mattz (Post 12133415)
lol thanks for a great laugh, rss feeds make me thousands a month

I've never once used a rss feed on any of my sites with not editing / rewriting them first:2 cents:

Thatīs the thing, webgeek is talking about the people that think they can throw up a blog with a bunch of feeds, then just sit back and watch the traffic roll in.
And google is getting smarter everyday, Iīve had rewritten articles getting thrown down to 30+ serps on some of my mainstream sites.
Check out this google patent on finding near duplicate content:
http://www.cs.umd.edu/~pugh/google/Duplicates.pdf

uno 03-22-2007 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 12132608)
LOL...ever think that people use rss as a base content and re-write it before posting?

and let me just say one thing in regards to the duplicate content myth.....associated press....have any idea what they are and what they do? and the millions of sites that use them?

Why even waste your breath?

tenderobject 03-22-2007 07:26 PM

damn i need a tool that i can rewrite feeds before it get posted im using rss2anywhere for the feeds to get posted in my sites.. but can;t edit the feeds manually after i imported it in rss2anywhere

Zoose 03-22-2007 07:33 PM

I assume you guys talking about rewriting the content are doing this automatically somehow..? Otherwise why not just write your own posts? :confused

Jace 03-22-2007 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoose (Post 12133510)
I assume you guys talking about rewriting the content are doing this automatically somehow..? Otherwise why not just write your own posts? :confused

the answer is in the thread

Zoose 03-22-2007 07:38 PM

Tender, check out http://www.rssmagician.com/ . I haven't tried it but I would imagine the output is clunky at best.

uno 03-22-2007 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 12133519)
the answer is in the thread

Use the Force, young Skywalker.

Zoose 03-22-2007 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 12133519)
the answer is in the thread

The thing with rewriting using RSSMagician or any other content rewriter though, is if multiple people use the same script, then it puts you right back where you started, no? Multiple people throwing the same RSS feed through the same algorithm = duplicate content. I mean I'm sure the script is configurable but .. ugh. You might as well just import all dictionary words greater then 5 characters into a database, pull 10 at random and sprinkle in keywords :helpme

StarkReality 03-22-2007 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoose (Post 12133510)
I assume you guys talking about rewriting the content are doing this automatically somehow..? Otherwise why not just write your own posts? :confused

Not only the content, for use on some aggregators auto updating pubdates every time the feed is pulled can be very handy :winkwink:

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kektex 03-22-2007 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoose (Post 12133576)
The thing with rewriting using RSSMagician or any other content rewriter though, is if multiple people use the same script, then it puts you right back where you started, no? Multiple people throwing the same RSS feed through the same algorithm = duplicate content. I mean I'm sure the script is configurable but .. ugh. You might as well just import all dictionary words greater then 5 characters into a database, pull 10 at random and sprinkle in keywords :helpme

Well Iīve used other content rewriters previously and thereīs always a bit of randomness in the algorithm so you dont get the same content over and over.
But I dont know if this is the case with rssmagician though...

Darrell 03-23-2007 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by StarkReality
Duplicate content on the same domain is by far more dangerous and since many people don't know how to get their templates and link structure setup correctly, 100% self written blogs are in danger as well. Why ? Because every post is indexed via 3 or 4 different URLs...and that's what hurts.
If I understand what you said correctly - if I have for instance a feature page for a solo girl on my site and there is a link to that page from several pages like a top ten blondes page and a new sites page etc. Are you saying that is classed as duplicate content, even though there is only one page with the content on?

StarkReality 03-23-2007 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Darrell (Post 12135107)
If I understand what you said correctly - if I have for instance a feature page for a solo girl on my site and there is a link to that page from several pages like a top ten blondes page and a new sites page etc. Are you saying that is classed as duplicate content, even though there is only one page with the content on?

No, that's not a problem, multiple links to the same page are fine. The problem is the following: If you have a blog with multiple categories, monthly archives and maybe daily archives, each post is indexed individually BUT it also appears on those archive pages. It becomes even worse with tag clouds/alot of categories.

Example: You write 10 new posts. You tag/categorize them with "pussy", "anal", "hardcore" and "amateur" and a few that a different for each post. Now you got the 10 posts on the mainpage, you got them in the "pussy", "anal", "hardcore" and "amateur" category and on top of this months archive, maybe even on another page for the daily archive. Always the same posts, the same order. Depending on their permanent link structure, it can be even more.

So, if the different links post to exactly the same URL, it's all fine, but in my example, it's in /pussy/, /anal/, /hardcore/, /amateur/, /2007/pussy/ (or /posttitle.html), maybe /2007/03/23/.

Darrell 03-23-2007 07:03 AM

Ok, that's what I thought. Thanks for taking the time to reply :thumbsup

dustin101 03-23-2007 07:07 AM

i just put up, official video galleries no RSS becasue I want to do good on google,
RSS is awesome though like on my google homepage

kektex 03-23-2007 07:09 AM

Thatīs why in blogs itīs not good practice to place one post under multiple categories.Each post is going to be duplicated under all the categories you used.
What I did for my blogs was place a NOINDEX metatag on all category pages because I already had like 200 posts with multiple categories.

SinisterStudios 03-23-2007 07:16 AM

There is no money in using RSS :winkwink: . I guess i have to take down my blog farms

RSS is another tool to make things easier, its not a "im a lazy webmaster and ill just pop up a WP blog and take a bunch of RSS feeds" type of tool. Like anything else you need to think outside the box and you will do well.

SCORE Ralph 03-23-2007 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by StarkReality (Post 12135460)
....

So, if the different links post to exactly the same URL, it's all fine, but in my example, it's in /pussy/, /anal/, /hardcore/, /amateur/, /2007/pussy/ (or /posttitle.html), maybe /2007/03/23/.

This is more of a blog layout issue and not a RSS issue.

MikeSmoke 03-23-2007 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by webgeek (Post 12132904)

the problem with that is if the blog's index page is index.php - you'd have to ALLOW /index.php? - if i'm not mistaken?

baddog 03-23-2007 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 12132628)
I've always had this question myself. If you use an RSS feed as is but also add your own original blog posts you won't run into that problem, right?

Feeds should supplement the site.

baddog 03-23-2007 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kektex (Post 12135595)
Thatīs why in blogs itīs not good practice to place one post under multiple categories.

disagree

baddog 03-23-2007 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 12132632)
now that I don't think is fair use....rss feeds from sponsors is one thing, but grabbing another blogs rss feeds and using them is shady

then don't put out an rss feed

Dirty Dane 03-23-2007 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SinisterStudios (Post 12135611)
There is no money in using RSS :winkwink: .

No money in SEO either. :thumbsup

rowan 03-23-2007 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kektex (Post 12132806)
Itīs a good idea to rewrite your content as well as mix it with original content.
Duplicate content filters are not a myth.It sucks to have your whole site thrown in to supplemental hell.
If anyone is looking for a feed rewriter click here. Iīve been using it on a couple of sites now and so far itīs working great.
Sometimes the Markov outputs some hard to understand shit but in the end all you want is the surfer to click through.

Here's one I tried.....

http://www.gigodiary.com/

V_RocKs 03-23-2007 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 12132632)
now that I don't think is fair use....rss feeds from sponsors is one thing, but grabbing another blogs rss feeds and using them is shady

Actually a few of my blogs have people reusing my feeds (codes intact) and I enjoy it because about 20% of the sales come from their sites, not mine.

Beejeebers 03-23-2007 03:54 PM

Grabbing the posts and re-writing the links is shady. Some programs do this.

starpimps 03-23-2007 04:19 PM

bump for a good thread :thumbsup

Murderous 03-23-2007 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12137901)
disagree

Care to elaborate?

Cory W 03-23-2007 04:38 PM

RSS is the stomping ground for more intense revisions and innovations. It isn't a pure science with black and white logic, however it is starting point for greater things.

In essence, syndication is a tool that allows sites to offer a more expansive variety of content. If you come to my home, you can watch TV, or open a National Geographic. On another end of the spectrum, it is a business that quite clearly has made it easier for webmasters to provide affiliate linking codes to surfers and provide updated pages with logical directories to spiders.

The real heart of all of this will be in it's future. When syndication becomes backwards compatible, when it becomes custom on both ends, when it communicates both ways in a more logical way.

At the end of the day, the same thing will be true tomorrow that is true today, and was true yesterday: If you are in this for quality, you will have longevity.

Everyone always ask how XXXJay has so many SE listings. What they should be asking is why does he have so many return visitors?

Learn how tools can help you, not be you, and you will likely be fine.

baddog 03-23-2007 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Murderous (Post 12138508)
Care to elaborate?

Not really. Someone will just argue about it and I am not in the mood. Just put it this way, as long as the category is relevant it is a good thing.

StarkReality 03-27-2007 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12137915)
then don't put out an rss feed

Right, although a feed is not different from a website when it comes to copyright and legal stuff, it's an invitation to syndicate it.

I see nothing bad with people syndicating feeds, as long as they don't rewrite them or change link codes. Some of my blogs get more traffic from scraper sites like icerocket, zewol & Co. than from google.

There are much worse things than people grabbing feeds, it's the day some nasty nph proxy hits your site, sent by a friendly fellow webmaster and google kicks you out of the index or at least ruins your rankings for a long time.

IllTestYourGirls 03-27-2007 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mattz (Post 12133415)
lol thanks for a great laugh, rss feeds make me thousands a month

I've never once used a rss feed on any of my sites with not editing / rewriting them first:2 cents:

Teach me? I would love to learn. Hit me up on ICQ sometime. I have been testing some RSS feeds, changing the text.

This is a great thread! :thumbsup

IllTestYourGirls 03-27-2007 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12137901)
disagree

I have always wondered about that. I post mine in as many as I can.

baddog 03-27-2007 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 12157979)
I have always wondered about that. I post mine in as many as I can.

As long as it is a relevant category.

An example can be seen at http://www.pradult.com/ if you look at the News categories on the left menu.

There are 1376 entries in the main category (All Porn News), and they are also spread out over all the categories listed below. We allow up to two additional categories besides All Porn News.

IllTestYourGirls 03-27-2007 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12158005)
As long as it is a relevant category.

An example can be seen at http://www.pradult.com/ if you look at the News categories on the left menu.

There are 1376 entries in the main category (All Porn News), and they are also spread out over all the categories listed below. We allow up to two additional categories besides All Porn News.

Very nice. I bookmarked that one.

I never force my post into a cat. But I think about how I can make a post fit more than one.

Thanks for the tip

VexXxed 03-27-2007 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 12132608)
myth.....associated press....have any idea what they are and what they do? and the millions of sites that use them?


Booyakasha. Nuff Said.


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sarettah 03-27-2007 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 12132632)
now that I don't think is fair use....rss feeds from sponsors is one thing, but grabbing another blogs rss feeds and using them is shady

Why provide the rss feed if you don't want someone to use it?

as far as duplicate content goes, I was yakking with Dravyk last night about this stuff and he says that the spiders can tell the difference between the original site and the sites using the rss feeds and that the spiders do not count it as duplicate content.

I am not sure if he is right but he has done a hell of a lot of research on it and is fast becoming an seo expert.

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