trials vs non-trials - GoFuckYourself.com

roseyrid · 08-10-2002, 04:49 PM

I am building a small site for someone and they had an interesting question.

Should they have trials or should they just have regular monthly signups

Im curious to hear your suggestions.
thanks,
rosey

eru · 08-10-2002, 04:53 PM

trials

hahmike · 08-10-2002, 04:54 PM

it would be a long fucking essay on the pros and cons of trials/non trials

shame i'm falling asleep in my chair or i'd give it a crack

try looking at the webmaster resource sites

i hear mom coming up the stairs

off to bed i go...

Juicy D. Links · 08-10-2002, 04:55 PM

Both have there advantages:

No trial then you weed out the crap members adn get a good sense of people who will recur evry month/

With a trial you will get more signups and more people who want to test it out before they go full membership

Why dont you you a no trial and on exit if theydont buy then offer the trial 2.99 deal kinda like erasercash does

Speedy26 · 08-10-2002, 05:35 PM

with the way the market is, trial money is better than none.

roseyrid · 08-10-2002, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Speedy26
with the way the market is, trial money is better than none.

that was my original answer but they then asked the question about paying affiliates $35 bucks per signup. If the conversions for trials to full memberships are around 30% on a $4.99 trial, how can they make money paying $35 signup to their affiliates.

This one really stumped me.

heymatty · 08-10-2002, 06:18 PM

they buy pretty much all the content plugins they can find

and charge $49.95 a month

EscortBiz · 08-10-2002, 06:27 PM

no trials

roseyrid · 08-10-2002, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by heymatty
they buy pretty much all the content plugins they can find

and charge $49.95 a month

and they can still make money on that? if the trial is say $5 and they get 100 of them, that is $500 they bring in. Now they had to pay out $35 x 100 = $3500 to the webmasters...now lets say that they convert at 40% meaning 40 percent of the people pay the monthly fee of $50...thats $2000...now lets say the retention is 40%...so 16 stay for a month, thats another $900. the next month 40% retention so there is another 6 times $50 for $300...then 2 for $100...if my calculations are right thats a toal of $3550 a profit of $50 at a 40% retention...this is not to mention fees to the credit card companines, so it would have ended up in a loss...and I missing something? This is at $50 now they wanted to do their site at $34.95 monthly, they wont make money. Please reply, this is my outlook on their idea....
I think they should skip trials by looking at these numbers.

FATPad · 08-10-2002, 07:02 PM

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KinkyCoon · 08-10-2002, 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by FATPad
Upsells, crosssells, exit consoles, and the "S" word no one wants to mention, no one admits to, no one can prove, but is out there.

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wouncie · 08-10-2002, 07:48 PM

Do like me and charge $19.95 for the trial

SykkBoy · 08-10-2002, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FATPad
Upsells, crosssells, exit consoles, and the "S" word no one wants to mention, no one admits to, no one can prove, but is out there.

exactly...

also don't forget to produce your own traffic ;) hire a couple college kids to build galleries, free sites and AVS sites all day for $7-8 per hour...............

or do what we're doing...run it as a partnership program for a couple months and get a nice, steady recurring member database with your own traffic, then roll out the per signup...you should also take into consderation that now with per signup, you'll have to deal with russian carding scumfucks and cheaters doing shit like "signup for a trial, find word 3 on paragraph 6 of page 2 in the memberrs area, put it here and get access to picture of me fucking my sister, then cancel your membership there" and cheating you can't imagine (though not as bad as with per click programs)....or have $30-40K in the bank to absorb losses the first few months...we're releasing a program for a certain house of ill repute and basically told them with per signup, stick $100K in the bank and don't expect profits for the first few months....

also, check out the banned countries list from most major sponsors and make that your banned countries list....

SykkBoy · 08-10-2002, 08:02 PM

oops, I forgot to apologize for posting something worthwhile and quasi-meaningful...sorry, won't happen again........

cherrylula · 08-10-2002, 08:04 PM

what is the content?

roseyrid · 08-10-2002, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cherrylula
what is the content?

their site is a teen niche orientated with some hardcore...im not really sure on the details, Im just working on some designs for them. They said it was going to "revolutionize" the industry...
I just offer my 2 cents, and look for the pay checks every week

SykkBoy · 08-10-2002, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by roseyatrid

their site is a teen niche orientated with some hardcore...im not really sure on the details, Im just working on some designs for them. They said it was going to "revolutionize" the industry...
I just offer my 2 cents, and look for the pay checks every week

revolutionize the teen niche? better do a subniche of teens...like we're doing with AlternativeGirls....it's a teen site, but the teens are tattooed, pierced, etc. they're bad girl teens...teens that'll fuck you then kick your ass and take your wallet...... ;)

if they're going for teen, make sure they do something to spark interest instead of the same tired generic overproduced tours........

Honeyslut · 08-10-2002, 10:08 PM

I charge $19.95 and no trial.

I make more money than with the trial and have members that have been around for 6 months ..

I think trials are great for sites that charge $ 30 .

What I know.. LOL

08-10-2002, 04:49 PM	#1
roseyrid Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: LA Posts: 1,058	trials vs non-trials I am building a small site for someone and they had an interesting question. Should they have trials or should they just have regular monthly signups Im curious to hear your suggestions. thanks, rosey

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hahmike So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2,488	it would be a long fucking essay on the pros and cons of trials/non trials shame i'm falling asleep in my chair or i'd give it a crack try looking at the webmaster resource sites i hear mom coming up the stairs off to bed i go...

08-10-2002, 04:55 PM	#4
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	Both have there advantages: No trial then you weed out the crap members adn get a good sense of people who will recur evry month/ With a trial you will get more signups and more people who want to test it out before they go full membership Why dont you you a no trial and on exit if theydont buy then offer the trial 2.99 deal kinda like erasercash does

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cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	what is the content?

08-10-2002, 10:08 PM	#18
Honeyslut Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Ass Valley, Ca Posts: 6,436	I charge $19.95 and no trial. I make more money than with the trial and have members that have been around for 6 months .. I think trials are great for sites that charge $ 30 . What I know.. LOL __________________ http://nakedlunchnews.comWhat's up ? Naked Lunch News !