Who here thinks pre-checked cross sales are shady? - GoFuckYourself.com

GITZINGER · 03-18-2007, 03:55 PM

I've noticed a few big sponsors doing it. What do ya'll think?

Mutt · 03-18-2007, 03:58 PM

shady - not illegal but shady. especially when the text is size=1 and the cross-sale site doesn't even have a URL to go with it and is priced at 39.99 or above.

xxxice · 03-18-2007, 04:00 PM

/signed

count of monte cristo · 03-18-2007, 04:21 PM

would you consider a sponsor who credit card description is ATM CASCADE or a similar ATM-type descriptor and charges in $40.00 increments for their price points shady?

hypothetically speaking, of course

Voodoo · 03-18-2007, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by count of monte cristo

would you consider a sponsor who credit card description is ATM CASCADE or a similar ATM-type descriptor and charges in $40.00 increments for their price points shady?

hypothetically speaking, of course

"ATM Withdrawl"

Hmm... Good idea!

chupacabra · 03-18-2007, 05:41 PM

yes, shady as hell. surprised it is even still allowed by any processors at this point... talk about fucking the customer..

J. Falcon · 03-18-2007, 06:28 PM

Interesting subject.

NTSS · 03-18-2007, 07:18 PM

Shady as fuck!

This happened to me 3 months ago. Bought a program online and 3 months later I look at my cc statement to find I was being charged $14.95 per month for some retail discount membership. I ended up getting a refund on 2 months but took a loss for $14.95 on the 3rd. I was just happy to get most of my money back.

jscott · 03-18-2007, 07:34 PM

VERY shady, do you know any sponsors off the top of your head that do this that you can mention?

GITZINGER · 03-18-2007, 07:41 PM

I'm not gonna name names. Just go to the 10 biggest programs you know and click the join button. Enter a user and pass and go to the credit card page, takes 2 secs to see who is doing it.

FreeHugeMovies · 03-18-2007, 10:23 PM

Fucking shady as hell. Post the sponsors who do this

GITZINGER · 03-19-2007, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by NTSS

Shady as fuck!

This happened to me 3 months ago. Bought a program online and 3 months later I look at my cc statement to find I was being charged $14.95 per month for some retail discount membership. I ended up getting a refund on 2 months but took a loss for $14.95 on the 3rd. I was just happy to get most of my money back.

Yeah, I can't understand how their chargeback ratios are not HUGE!! That's probably why only the biggest sponsors can do it, They have to have huge sales to keep the percentage of chargbacks down.

JamesK2 · 03-19-2007, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

shady - not illegal but shady. especially when the text is size=1 and the cross-sale site doesn't even have a URL to go with it and is priced at 39.99 or above.

It does come with a url.

Phoenix · 03-19-2007, 07:52 AM

i love pre checked cross sales.

Liondollars doesnt do it though

but it makes money

Wizzo · 03-19-2007, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

i love pre checked cross sales.

Liondollars doesnt do it though

but it makes money

Right there with you, and its just a standard in online commerce that isn't limited to adult by any stretch...

zibril · 03-19-2007, 08:50 AM

Shady as fuckin hell...

RawAlex · 03-19-2007, 09:25 AM

shady, yeah...

The worst cases are sites that allow people to signup for $1 (or even free), but then pre-check cross sale them at $39.95 or something like that. For me that gets to be just about over the line.

I also have an issue with programs that pay say $25 per signup to an affiliate, and then have a pre-checked cross sale for an amount higher than what the affiliate gets paid. Essentially, the program sets itself up to profit twice and pay once.

All of this goes back to the ongoing, long running, almost endless of programs that promise to pay huge amounts of money per signup. They have to make the money somewhere to pay for it, don't they?

Tom_PM · 03-19-2007, 09:32 AM

I have no troubles with them personally as a consumer. I take care when I'm about to spend money, and frequently ignore or uncheck extra offers for other items or warranties or extended home support when I buy.

More annoying to me are forms when joining a messageboard/site where you have to carefully check to opt out of additional offers, AND UNcheck to opt out of other additional offers, lol.

Imagine if paysites had 1 cross sale that said "Uncheck here now to not join this site" and a 2nd cross sale that said "Check here now to join this site". Chaos. The rules in place are sufficient.

Also annoying is shopping for batteries and placing them on the counter with cash in hand and getting offered a cellular phone, long distance phone service, store credit card application, and being asked for my name and address.

RawAlex · 03-19-2007, 09:34 AM

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Also annoying is shopping for batteries and placing them on the counter with cash in hand and getting offered a cellular phone, long distance phone service, store credit card application, and being asked for my name and address.

imagine what it would be like if you went to buy a pack of $3 batteries, and when they gave you the bill, they said "That will be 297.50". It isn't a question of being asked and saying no, it is the assumption that you have said yes and you have to back away from it.

I often wonder how programs can manage to do that stuff and still stay within chargeback limits.

03-18-2007, 03:55 PM	#1
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Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	shady - not illegal but shady. especially when the text is size=1 and the cross-sale site doesn't even have a URL to go with it and is priced at 39.99 or above. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

03-18-2007, 04:21 PM	#4
count of monte cristo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: monte cristo Posts: 473	would you consider a sponsor who credit card description is ATM CASCADE or a similar ATM-type descriptor and charges in $40.00 increments for their price points shady? hypothetically speaking, of course __________________ premier payment sending company

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chupacabra Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,626	yes, shady as hell. surprised it is even still allowed by any processors at this point... talk about fucking the customer.. __________________ ...promise her a defamation, tell her where the rain will fall..

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xxxice Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,042	/signed

03-18-2007, 07:18 PM	#8
NTSS Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Da Hood Posts: 5,688	Shady as fuck! This happened to me 3 months ago. Bought a program online and 3 months later I look at my cc statement to find I was being charged $14.95 per month for some retail discount membership. I ended up getting a refund on 2 months but took a loss for $14.95 on the 3rd. I was just happy to get most of my money back. __________________ ICQ: 150-803-430 Email: marketing7(at)cox(dot)net

03-18-2007, 07:34 PM	#9
jscott jscizzle Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Taipei Posts: 25,198	VERY shady, do you know any sponsors off the top of your head that do this that you can mention? __________________ “If you think tough men are dangerous, wait until you see what weak men are capable of.” —Jordan B. Peterson Listen to Pomp tell why is Bitcoin important

03-18-2007, 07:41 PM	#10
GITZINGER Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: up your sisters ass Posts: 929	I'm not gonna name names. Just go to the 10 biggest programs you know and click the join button. Enter a user and pass and go to the credit card page, takes 2 secs to see who is doing it. __________________ Your momma was a ho!!!

03-18-2007, 10:23 PM	#11
FreeHugeMovies Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 14,137	Fucking shady as hell. Post the sponsors who do this

03-19-2007, 07:52 AM	#14
Phoenix BACON BACON BACON Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Poems everybody, the laddie fancies himself a poet Posts: 35,465	i love pre checked cross sales. Liondollars doesnt do it though but it makes money __________________ Skype Phoenixskype1 Telegram PhoenixBrad https://quantads.io

03-19-2007, 08:50 AM	#16
zibril Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 731	Shady as fuckin hell...

03-19-2007, 09:25 AM	#17
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	shady, yeah... The worst cases are sites that allow people to signup for $1 (or even free), but then pre-check cross sale them at $39.95 or something like that. For me that gets to be just about over the line. I also have an issue with programs that pay say $25 per signup to an affiliate, and then have a pre-checked cross sale for an amount higher than what the affiliate gets paid. Essentially, the program sets itself up to profit twice and pay once. All of this goes back to the ongoing, long running, almost endless of programs that promise to pay huge amounts of money per signup. They have to make the money somewhere to pay for it, don't they?

03-19-2007, 09:32 AM	#18
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	I have no troubles with them personally as a consumer. I take care when I'm about to spend money, and frequently ignore or uncheck extra offers for other items or warranties or extended home support when I buy. More annoying to me are forms when joining a messageboard/site where you have to carefully check to opt out of additional offers, AND UNcheck to opt out of other additional offers, lol. Imagine if paysites had 1 cross sale that said "Uncheck here now to not join this site" and a 2nd cross sale that said "Check here now to join this site". Chaos. The rules in place are sufficient. Also annoying is shopping for batteries and placing them on the counter with cash in hand and getting offered a cellular phone, long distance phone service, store credit card application, and being asked for my name and address. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.