Smoothcriminal

Just Been chatting to this guy on ICQ who owns a TGP/MPG site, I suggested to him would it be ok to exchange links, & of course i use my sales skills to promote my site & he said why not. His site gets 60k daily from 15 other sites which he trades with, just pays to be nice to people, they sort you out big time.
I could get an extra 1k from him daily, maybe more, see what happens in the next few days or so.

My new site will be opening up very soon, we're all looking forward to the BIG day.

greentea

BTW how much did you pay to be nice?

lopez

...tell us more please...

hahmike

always pays to be nice


also pays when people manage to keep their mouth shut about their best fucking sponsors... most of them can't get to the boards fast enough when they spot the $x.xx per webmaster

"HOLY SHIT... MUST... SPAM... $20... PER... WEBMASTER... WILL BE... RICH.... HEART ATTACK... COMING..."

Libertine

Most sponsors pay a % for webmasters, and in that case it most definitely pays to talk about 'm.

quiet

Bull Shit. the fastest way to ruin a sponser/novel method of marketing/etc is to start yapping about it on a board like gfy.

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we'll miss you our friend. RIP

ldinternet

It isn't, not if you're relying on promoting them heavily.

Back in December, my Cum Fiesta sales ratio was 1 of 200.

Eight months later, my Cum Fiesta sales ratio (grabbing this direct from the stats) is 1 of 14,286.

There's a pretty big difference between $2500 and $35, son. They were solid as a rock until they introduced that webmaster referral bullshit.

Basically the program has been ruined by people spamming it. Recommend me a sponsor... Nasty Dollars. Any sponsor with free content? Nasty Dollars. Any sponsor with a gay site? Nasty Dollars. Any sponsor with a fucking join page? Nasty Dollars.

Yes, people still promote it, and some get good sales ratios, but nowhere near as previously. It is natural for a program to slide somewhat over time, but not at this rate. Back in December the program was shit hot. Now it is luke warm, turning cold. In 12 months time they'll have gone full circle. The program will be ice cold by December.

Webmaster referral programs play on greed, and that is about it. The greed would be, $100 is used to blind people from the terms and conditions - those which clearly state that a webmaster won't get that referral until the person in their downstream generates eight signups. It is the same greed that blinds people from the fact that they are just about paying per ACTIVE signup... any cancel within 24 hours, "sorry, you're not getting the 35 bucks. But we're still going to pocket that $5 from the trial, so fuck you!"

Unless you're on a blind per click program, it is in your best interest to keep tight lipped about your best sponsors, regardless of whether they pay per webmaster join or a percentage of their signups. 5 to 10%, big deal. Everyone joins, promotes, sales ratios worsen, everyone leaves, nothing left. Plenty of people used to make money with the TopCash referrals. For a webmaster making $4000 per month, $1000 a month from referrals will probably sound great. To make that $1000 a month from referrals you'd have to refer a lot of webmasters - because it is guaranteed that you're not going to find MaxCash or ARS in your downstream (90% of people making good money own their own paysites), but rather an army of newbies. Takes a lot of them to generate $1000 a month for you at only 5%... before you know it, your sales have been sliced in half because of over promotion. Now you're making only $2000 a month, but that is okay because you're still making $1000 at 5% on referred webmasters. Total, $3000 per month. But wait... this webmaster used to make $4000 per month. Congratulations, this webmaster has successfully fucked himself out of $1000 per month because he couldn't keep his mouth shut.

Just throwing small numbers around with basic math... but you can see the point I'm trying to make. Of course big programs encourage webmaster referrals, they make fucking bank with them! They'll tell their webmasters that webmaster referrals are a great thing. Opening a partnership program, webmaster referrals would be one of the first things I'd have set up.

The spamming assholes could still have been making good money with that sponsor if they haven't had been so short sighted.



I tell everyone on GFY about my great new sponsor converting 1:50 and paying $35 per trial... oh gee, I wonder what will happen?

Smoothcriminal

I didn't pay NOTHING

i'm gifted in all areas, especially sales

Use to work for a retail company for 2 years, got sick & tired of selling, thought to myself whats the point in selling £1k tv's/cookers/dvd players for the company, when I can do it myself & keep the money.


I'm really good at selling guarantee's for products, wouldn't buy one myself.

Thank god i'm in the porn industry