See sig for only the best :glugglug

Round of applause. Your members should be going to a members page, not coming through an affiliate link. In theory, if your affiliate link is null, you could but a member's link near the top (but then again, many programs have a warning page when the referal is null, and it usually has a member's link on it).

nope.

Dont have a wm ref program. Do have small webmaster link on bottom of the tour, burried down there, that open in new windows.

If that doesnt make me clean, then so be it :) ... doubt I'll be loosing any pps affiliates over it. Especially when most my competing pps programs have much worse REAL leaks.

PussyCash only has the affiliate code in "some" of their links thus relying on cookies to really do all the tracking. Since we all know some cookies won't be getting set, it's actually a small shave.

Given I'm not impressed with their "technical" expertice (based on all the various errors/issues I've seen), I simply have no faith that they have any sort of strong session tracking (to try an minimize any cookie loss) that you would get with a system like ccbill. But that's just my opinion.

It seems kinda silly for those who have almost everything locked down, not to go the last yard. But compared to rest of the crap out there, I feel for the guys who are 99.9% clean, yet getting kicked in this thread for that 0.1% :(

I have lost another half-dozen or so sponsors this week because I f*cked if I'm going to take down AFF links to have someone else send my traffic to them.

Come to that, I'm getting tired of seeing SexSearch and AFF banners on here. Not visiting here won't make an iota of difference to them or GFY, but I'm coming around to the idea it might make me feel better...

Qon runs a tight, no leak, program with Persignup.com. I just went through a few his sites and they seem to be pretty squeeky.

jayeff is the new KRL, great advice and experience, only more eloquent with his words

let me throw this out, game theory

people that do shady shit make more money doing that then people that dont do shady shit

the trick is the perception

being clean, in a broader sense, there are very few companies that i consider clean, on many different levels, but that is a line that i draw

what is not clean:

spware, prechecked crossells, treacherous signup pages, poor customer service/cancellation process, "limited" members area on paid trial with access to only 1 or 2 pics/vids

but in most cases, the big $$$ is not in being clean. case in point, Webmaster Direct. the people that installed spyware on computers that progressively made the computer inoperable over a period of 3 days after the installation unless the consumer put their cc in and got charged $50 to remove it

with that payout, do you know how many sponsors put that on their exits? amazing, it was everywhere

movieland.com, for those that remember

See Sig :thumbsup

50 Clean Sponsors.. SEE SIG!

That's a kickass ad. :thumbsup

Use NATS and affliate code will not be lost after that.


Serious Cash is clear and running NATS!

would you consider a sponsor who has an ATM-style descriptor and charges in $40.00 increments for their price points shady?

hypothetically speaking, of course

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I just saw many nats programs where the wm link was not carrying the code. And have plenty of other leaks, doesnt make a difference what software the site is running.

no leaks here..

Interesting thread. Were's the rest of the sponsors? This seems like a very small percentage. Maybe after a couple days we will hear from more or maybe they havent responded already because they aren't "clean" and just don't give a fuck.

Nice to see PussyCash already mentioned a few times.

Even their models are clean, like Ivory soap girls.

In reality that is rarely true. The cliché derives from the very narrow perspective that if a given transaction would legitimately earn - say - $30 and via a "trick" of some kind, that can be turned into $50, that equates to "more money".

And of course, on that single transaction it does and all those extra $20 dollars mount up to reinforce the illusion. But now compare the number of scams big enough for people to remember, against the number of regular businesses making profits year in and year out.

A few scammers think on a large scale (and are smart enough to pull something off and get away with it), but the majority are small-time, unambitious and short-sighted. How can they be anything else, when by their nature, most scams are ways to cut a bigger slice of the existing cake. Scammers rarely try to bake a bigger cake and even fail to notice when their activities make the cake smaller.

Right now quite a lot of the people center-stage in this industry use dubious methods of one kind or another. But that is less an endorsement of their tactics than because this industry is in its infancy. Check back in 5 years or so and see how many are still around...

It isn't a question of kicking anyone for the last 0.1% - it is a question of if a program says "we are clean" there shouldn't be anything that even resembles a leak. Plus I found those things right on page one, I didn't even check cookies or verify affiliate codes through all the pages.

I applaud them for going to almost the end... They can do the last little bit and be totally clear. Then they could crow about it, and it honestly would be a great selling point.

I have neither seen nor heard this said any better that that.

You nailed every point dead nuts on.

As usual.

At Video Secrets, we take pride in running a "clean" program:-)

Sadly, 5 years from now the scammers will have made their millions and moved on, and the rest of us will still be slugging it out in the trenches.

EpicCash is very clean and will count every hit for hit. feel free to audit our stats.

I'm clean, as are all the girls at 4 Real Cash :)

P1mpdog, it isn't about counting "click for click". That isn't the concept here.

I checked your tour for http://www.epiccash.com/track/track....E&SID=41&PID=S

(randomly selected from google).

Your webmaster link isn't coded (although it opens in a new window, which is nice)

Your members link, if you cancel, goes to a 401 page for camspot.

Your links to surfpartol and others open in the same window.

The camspot console you blur behind your tour doesn't credit to the webmaster.

So, no clean isn't exactly the correct words here.

Your attorney most have had a special, buy one patent, get 20 free.


Care to share your list of patent pending stuff. If you don't I wonder if that would be held against you in the case of a lawsuit.

From the sounds of it we are all infringing on your patents, so if you wont share them with us than how will i know what I am doing is violating your patent. I personally think it is only a matter of time before you flip the switch on your patents. Why else would you patent so many things if you didn't want to be like acacia and try to scare money out of people, bully them because they can't afford a lawyer. We have already seen you in action with bullying some who owned sexpays.com because you threatened to sue them because you said the name infrindged on xpays.com which is absurd.

So will you disclouse your patents and if you don;t do you think that weakens your claim we are infringing when you pull the trigger ?

i thought camspot had nothing to do with epiccash ?

I have no idea, I just call them as I see them.

http://1-dream.com/exit_pages/blur.html

that is the blur on that tour page I posted above.

we have no console tours also. thats why you get paid more on console tours.

sorry for the surfpatrol and kiddie porn links being traffic leaks. i will make sure to take those down :1orglaugh

if i put cams.com there, what does that tell you?

idiot.

hurry house nigga, get that fixed pronto :1orglaugh

You won't find sites like that advertised anywhere on BaileysRoom.com, HaydenHeart.com or any other Axis-Adult.com site. :2 cents:

We behave too. See my sig for a clean and honest sponsor!

99% of the paysites links to its affiliate program. It's a standard. You are going way to far, go out and find real leaks like a join page link with no code on it, a refresh or simple affiliate id removal from the url would make the affiliate lose its credit :2 cents:

Island Dollars <-- Zero traffic leaks

Affiliate tours
Joon Mali
Asha Kumara
Lily Koh

There isn't one single traffic leak on our tours. Feel free to check :)

Two gay gay sponsors are clean for sure:

Intensecash
Blueloot

:pimp clean and convert like crazy! see sig!:thumbsup :pimp

Click the member's login on the tour.
http://whatafreak.com/index_no.html?...1174310451n448
click cancel sends you to another site with another linking code...
:(
you're not as clean as you tought. I suggest a good soap and dish cloth :1orglaugh