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BusterBunny 03-07-2007 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 12032653)

The raw truth is the idea of a "coalition" is, and has always been a facade, to create an illusion to the American people that we have allies helping us in Iraq, when in fact no other country besides Britain ever had more than 3,300 troops (that would be South Korea, which likes to keep its troops battle ready - they are now down to 2,300 troops, with plans to withdraw 1,100 additional troops in the near future).

Prince Harry in Iraq represents a greater threat to his fellow troops by being a high value target, instead of being any kind of a difference maker in the war and the future of Iraq. If nothing else, I hope that he gets dusted up a little, and comes away with some practical knowledge about the stupidity of the leadership in the US and UK that have brought our countries to this point.

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totally agree, just saying he could have punked out if he really wanted to....
so i give him a lil extra credit:thumbsup

Nodtveidt 03-07-2007 08:34 PM
I can't be drafted...I'm too old and have too many physical and mental disabilities.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 03-07-2007 10:22 PM
Could all the draft dodgers please goto mexico, or like at least to Quebec or something? I like BC just the way it is, I'd rather it not be over ran with americans. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Fap 03-07-2007 10:32 PM
I would NEVER want to go but i dont want to be banished from the US heh..

TheJimmy 03-07-2007 10:34 PM
did 12+ years active in the USAF...and now I'm o-l-d...

I'd not be shocked to see a draft however, if we continue on the road we've been for the past so many years now :/

CDSmith 03-07-2007 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DEA (Post 12033537)
Are you saying The US military will shoe us consciencous objectors at gun point to battle
I've always been under the impression that when there's a draft, and you fall into the right age bracket, you go. Period.

As baddog said above, the military would find something for you to do, objector or not... but you'd go.

Or you could try to run away, as you said, and be a draft dodger. It's come to my understanding that that's not the best label to have to live with for the rest of one's life, but hey, at least you'd be alive right? :disgust

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 03-07-2007 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 12038354)
I've always been under the impression that when there's a draft, and you fall into the right age bracket, you go. Period.

As baddog said above, the military would find something for you to do, objector or not... but you'd go.

Or you could try to run away, as you said, and be a draft dodger. It's come to my understanding that that's not the best label to have to live with for the rest of one's life, but hey, at least you'd be alive right? :disgust
Tell that to all of the chicken hawk draft dodgers in the Bush Administration - Bush, Cheney, Rove, et al...

Or more of the Republican chicken hawks leaders who never served...Dennis Hastert, Dick Armey, Bill Frist, Tom DeLay, Trent Lott, Newt Gingrich, and Presidential candidates Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney.

And let's not forget administration insiders like Republican Neo-Cons such as Iraq war architects Richard Pearle, Paul Wolfowitz, and Eliot Abrams.

Who else...the list is too long, but let's not forget...

George Will, did not serve
Bill O'Reilly, did not serve
Bill Bennett, did not serve
Pat Buchanan, did not serve
Rush Limbaugh, did not serve
Michael Savage (aka Michael Alan Weiner)
John Wayne, did not serve
Pat Robertson - claimed during 1986 campaign to be a "combat veteran." In reality, was a "Liquor Officer."
Sean Hannity, did not serve.
Kenneth Starr, did not serve
Antonin Scalia, did not serve
Clarence Thomas, did not serve
Ralph Reed, did not serve
Michael Medved, did not serve

The list goes on...

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xroach 03-08-2007 01:36 AM
the question you should be asking yourself s is who profits

Porn Farmer 03-08-2007 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 12038354)
I've always been under the impression that when there's a draft, and you fall into the right age bracket, you go. Period.

As baddog said above, the military would find something for you to do, objector or not... but you'd go.

Or you could try to run away, as you said, and be a draft dodger. It's come to my understanding that that's not the best label to have to live with for the rest of one's life, but hey, at least you'd be alive right? :disgust
Some things are worth resisting.

Being forced by the government to go and fight an economic war where there is no direct threat to the US? You call that freedom? :1orglaugh

There is no human being more worthless or pathetic that he or she that would allow themselves to be used as a pawn by a government in any war that does not directly threaten their own homeland.

The only honorable war is a war of defence. If you're not fighting a war of defence then you are simply a paid mercenary.

gimilin 03-08-2007 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Vick! (Post 12033398)
Life is cheap for non-Americans there, they value their own lives pretty well.
No,life might be cheap in some where out of usa,but it could be as well as american got in USA.

com 03-08-2007 04:41 AM
the ralley point is at my house in san diego. come bearing ammo, booze, or food and a white flag. trespassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again.

C_U_Next_Tuesday 03-08-2007 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12032591)
I almost wish they would start the draft up again. The GFY entertainment alone would be worth it.
Not funny..my boy will be 18 next year.. my oldest is going to be 22. My boys arent going to war...I will kill over that shit..fuck the bush administration straight in thier greedy skulls.

DEA - banned for life 03-08-2007 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 12038354)
I've always been under the impression that when there's a draft, and you fall into the right age bracket, you go. Period.

As baddog said above, the military would find something for you to do, objector or not... but you'd go.

Or you could try to run away, as you said, and be a draft dodger. It's come to my understanding that that's not the best label to have to live with for the rest of one's life, but hey, at least you'd be alive right? :disgust
As i said above i highly doubt the US goverments would force citizens into battle at gun point.They cant and wont force anyone to go to war.

Do you dispute the goverment lied to the US people about WMD in iraq? Knowing that fact if a drat was put into place you would still go and fight?

If i was drafted to a war that was not on US soil or did not directly threaten The USA ..then there is no way i would go.Brand me whatever name you like,draft dodger,coward,objector..whatever...point is america was founded on standing up for what you belive in and freedom.I see it as my duty to my country to maintain these values...If not am i a realy free?Am i really what an American is suppose to be? ..me thinks not

wizhard 03-08-2007 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 12032653)
Bah! The British forces have been a token force in Iraq since the war started nearly four years ago (3/20/03). Their current massive 7,100 member force has mostly been protecting their own barracks (plans have already been announced to cut their troops to 5,500 in the near future as a prelude to their ultimate withdrawal).

True, the British have lost something like 134 soliders so far in Iraq, the vast majority being enlisted personnel. On average, more police officers die in the U.S. each year than that.

The U.S. population is approximately five times greater that the U.K., yet we have twenty times as many troops in combat and have suffered fatalities at approximately 30 times the number which British troops have.

In fairness to the UK, they represent more than 50% of the non-US coalition.

The raw truth is the idea of a "coalition" is, and has always been a facade, to create an illusion to the American people that we have allies helping us in Iraq, when in fact no other country besides Britain ever had more than 3,300 troops (that would be South Korea, which likes to keep its troops battle ready - they are now down to 2,300 troops, with plans to withdraw 1,100 additional troops in the near future).

Prince Harry in Iraq represents a greater threat to his fellow troops by being a high value target, instead of being any kind of a difference maker in the war and the future of Iraq. If nothing else, I hope that he gets dusted up a little, and comes away with some practical knowledge about the stupidity of the leadership in the US and UK that have brought our countries to this point.

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Utter Bollocks.

British armed forces have been in the thick of the action in Iraq since day 1 often taking on highly dangerous small scale missions where they would be expected to go "toe to toe" with the enemy rather than resorting to calling in fire power "en masse" to get the job done and are mainly currently engaged in protecting US supply lines in the south of Iraq. LOL, a second level of danger seems to have come from dodging US bullets when your boys get to excited.

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True, the British have lost something like 134 soliders so far in Iraq, the vast majority being enlisted personnel. On average, more police officers die in the U.S. each year than that.
Sorry to say so, but to me that is simply a sad inditement of the US in general.

12clicks 03-08-2007 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by THEMASKEDRIDER (Post 12037671)
12clicks, "sucking at your mothers teat" for free? we all pay taxes man, i bet you were never in the service
your post is pointless.

I'll bet you've never been successful at anything

12clicks 03-08-2007 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by DEA (Post 12039697)
Do you dispute the goverment lied to the US people about WMD in iraq?
yes........

Phil 03-08-2007 07:04 AM
heres what im going to do...

http://www.tqchem.com/canada%20flag.jpg

12clicks 03-08-2007 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 12038484)
Tell that to all of the chicken hawk draft dodgers in the Bush Administration - Bush, Cheney, Rove, et al...

Or more of the Republican chicken hawks leaders who never served...Dennis Hastert, Dick Armey, Bill Frist, Tom DeLay, Trent Lott, Newt Gingrich, and Presidential candidates Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney.

And let's not forget administration insiders like Republican Neo-Cons such as Iraq war architects Richard Pearle, Paul Wolfowitz, and Eliot Abrams.

Who else...the list is too long, but let's not forget...

George Will, did not serve
Bill O'Reilly, did not serve
Bill Bennett, did not serve
Pat Buchanan, did not serve
Rush Limbaugh, did not serve
Michael Savage (aka Michael Alan Weiner)
John Wayne, did not serve
Pat Robertson - claimed during 1986 campaign to be a "combat veteran." In reality, was a "Liquor Officer."
Sean Hannity, did not serve.
Kenneth Starr, did not serve
Antonin Scalia, did not serve
Clarence Thomas, did not serve
Ralph Reed, did not serve
Michael Medved, did not serve

The list goes on...

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I could make up the same list filled with your liberal heros as well but I understand how silly a list that is.

porno jew 03-08-2007 08:08 AM
sad how the noble values of sacrifice have been lost with this generation.

Madame0120 03-08-2007 08:26 AM
It wouldn't take a week, and the draft cards would be set aflame once again!

Better they take all the half-educated HS Grads and require 2 years of Service. Win win!

CDSmith 03-08-2007 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by DEA (Post 12039697)
As i said above i highly doubt the US goverments would force citizens into battle at gun point.They cant and wont force anyone to go to war.

Do you dispute the goverment lied to the US people about WMD in iraq? Knowing that fact if a drat was put into place you would still go and fight?

If i was drafted to a war that was not on US soil or did not directly threaten The USA ..then there is no way i would go.Brand me whatever name you like,draft dodger,coward,objector..whatever...point is america was founded on standing up for what you belive in and freedom.I see it as my duty to my country to maintain these values...If not am i a realy free?Am i really what an American is suppose to be? ..me thinks not
Whatever. All I'm saying is that it is my understanding that when there is a draft in the USA, you as a person who falls within that draft do NOT have a choice in the matter. I'm not arguing that it's right or wrong, I'm just stating what I know. They don't come to each person of draft age and say "Would you like to come help out?"... no, they send you a notice telling you to report. They tell you when to report, and they tell you where to report.

I can't see the issue being up for debate when a draft is being conducted.


And yes, it's a scary notion, but I suppose it's also a question of whether or not you trust your leaders enough to give them the benefit of the doubt when they obviously should have more intel on a situation going on in the world than you do. A threat may not be right on US soil but I can think of certain instances in history where a lot of Americans were willingly drafted and fought overseas for the USA and for the cause of world freedom. Good thing very few back in the early 1940's adopted your stance of "Well, the Germans arn't attacking us on US soil so fuck the draft. Once they get here THEN I'll fight"

However, I would hope that no future draft would be instituted without a similar legitimate reason as that of the WWII era.

dodint 03-08-2007 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 12040124)
sad how the noble values of sacrifice have been lost with this generation.
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Originally Posted by dodint
No need to draft me, I'm already in.

Haven't been overthere yet, though.

Don't judge us all at once. I haven't been to combat yet, but I'd be hard pressed to say I haven't sacrificed something.

If you don't believe me, ask my wife if you see her, cause I haven't seen her months.

Semper Fi

kirupai 03-08-2007 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 12032733)
Scoring high on the ASVAB and other military tests generally gets you on a Staff command, not on the front lines. I never went on a ship except for in-port inspections during my six years in the Navy. The rest of the time I was mostly a desk jockey that got to travel around Asia on the taxpayers dime banging local hookers (not a bad gig if you can get it).

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Amen to that, I spent my whole career as a Network Defense Specialist. Had my own desk and worked monday thru friday, 7:30 to 4:30 you cant beat that, besides i did a lot of traveling for training, education, etc god those where the good times, then again I got to some pretty shitty stuff once in a while because of my low rank but everyone goes thru that, just part of the chain.

hypnotizes 03-08-2007 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 12032690)
Fuck getting drafted,,, I'd go join voluntarily..

Fucking love to shoot motherfuckers.. There's nothing in the world like blasting fuckers in the face with .50 cal bullets .. fucking watch their towels turn red,,,

the first time us was at war with Iraq, I was on uncle sam's doorstep begging to go...

too bad I had a legal problem that stopped me from going.. scored 98% on the ASVAB.. fucking was so pissed I couldn't go.
Try again. I just got out after two tours of iraq. They'd love to send your ass right over there.

Dont believe the shit you see on TV. Its war.

shahab6 03-13-2007 05:48 PM
I will just leave the county.

dissipate 03-13-2007 05:50 PM
I already did my time, FREEEEEDOMMMMMM!

Vendzilla 03-13-2007 05:55 PM
I did 4 years in the submarine service, my daughter is in the Navy now! She wanted to Join the army at first, I told her that part of the uniform was a bullit proof vest, she went in the navy


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