DaddyHalbucks

Do Americans have any idea what will happen if Bush does NOT bomb Iran??

1. Iran will develop nuclear bomb(s)
2. Al Qaeda or Hezbollah will be given the bomb
3. One or more US cities will be nuked

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Bryan G

Sorry doubt it,

If the US bombs Iran they will be BIG BIG trouble for the world as a whole.

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Phoenix

and why would anyone want to bomb the USA?

i mean did they do something to deserve such an act?

i dont believe so.

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Juilan

Ask yourself what fear ended the cold war.

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See sig.

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DaddyHalbucks

Did we deserve 9/11?

Al Qaeda has already stated their intention to do it.

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Splum

I hope they do get a bomb and I hope they do nuke a city, please oh please let it be San Francisco.
Maybe then we can purge this country of the liberal cancer that infests it.

LilBro

what about if the people of Iran just overthrow their govt? would that help??? get a nice western/democratic govt...

Brad

probably not. I doubt that anyone is going to use nuclear weapons in the near future. It would be then end of the world as we know it. besides, why would anyone nuke a country with their own nukes and so much military force? Remember the cold war? Iran has no methods to deliver them to the US anyways, they are too far away.

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Splum

He said do AMERICANS have any idea, not Canadians. Stop speaking for us please.

dig420

you're a pretty sick fuck.

Bryan G

Americans always get Canadians involved in this BS... so sorry yes we can voice an opinion

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Splum

Lol fine you can mouth off, I mean you guys are good at that but thankfully you cant vote here.

Angelo22

Please tell me you are all being sarcastic about your al queada, or "not deserving" bullshit. Please tell me you know what really happened and are not blaming others for what your pwn government planned to stabilize economy.... just like what it did this morning...

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Phoenix

shh they are busy hiding their heads in the sand and pretending they are the righteous ones

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nick3131

I suppose next you are going to tell us we're going to hell for selling porn

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Pleasurepays

Do Americans realize that Bush has no authority to unilaterally bomb anyone?

scottybuzz

stick to spamming daddy halbucks as you suck at persuading people.

infact u suck at spamming too.

plus its hearsay, north korea hate america and they are getting nukes, why dont the u.s. bomb them too?

stop swallowing it and get back to putting your link codes in peoples way.

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I don't know about you, but I sure the hell am! Though it's not called hell, it's called the Negasphere.

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Splum

Dumbass 10 dollar sig whore.

Angelo22

Oooooh, ooooh, i got it... sorry for bothering

If a debate breaks out, i'll update on the situation...in afghanistan

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scottybuzz

splum i dont understand you, you are very patriotic for america yet your views are very communist.

are you a far right or something? just another pawn?

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Splum

He already has the authority, we are already in a war and it has been authorized by congress.

Phoenix

hey that didnt stop him from invading a country killing their leaders

demolishing public buildings and pretty much forcing them into the stone age

but hey whos counting..hahahaha whenever i see the word counting in the same area as Bush i keep thinking how he duped all americns into thinking they were actually voting

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Angelo22

that doesnt change the fact that your imperialistic government is abusing human rights while prentending to defend and bring democracy to other people's nation.

If those people you are attacking wanted to, another world war could happen, just as the first one started. And dont look up on how it started before you post.

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Phoenix

he is a moron.

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Splum

What is communist about my views? I may be an extremist when it comes to the security, protection and power of my country sure but I have lots of liberal views too.
When it comes to the safety of my homeland and its people I become very protective and extremist. I have fought for this country and I probably will have to do so again to protect the freedom of my children and grand children.
I dont care what others reasons are for hating or attacking this country I want them dead.

Angelo22

OMG THE CONGRESS!!!!
WE'RE GODFUCKING DOOMED!!11!!

He doesnt. Nothing depends on him alone. Inform yourself.

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Bryan G

It really amazes and scares me the views some people have....it's quite unreal

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Angelo22

I'm communist. His view are nowhere near communist. I'd say more of a reactionist, or at least a fascist.
But hey, i guess its just another pwnage

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tranza

I couldn't agree more.

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Lance69

Liberty and Justice for all, except those damn Liberals....

Unfortunately if the US wants to save face then they do have to be the bigger person, so to speak. If the US was hit, there will be world support in whatever they do. Look at 9/11? It was a blank check that Bush managed to shit on.
The middle eastern countrys generally only agree on their hatred for the west. That's about it. It makes no sense to not have the rest of the sane world pissed at you too. Hell if the US played it's cards right they could probably get the other Arab countries to align against Iran, instead of solidifying them. But not if they attack them without proper provocation

Unfortunately if you wanna be the "Good Guy" then you have to take it on the chin, otherwise you become as bad as them.
No one for a second thinks that Iran has good intentions, far from it. But it has to be handled right.

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Angelo22

Sooo... protecting YOUR countries' children and women, means killing OTHER countries' children and women?

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Splum

Thats right WE ARE THE EMPIRE get used to it or fight it. Bitching about it isnt going to help you, you are, have been and always will be the USAs bitch for the foreseeable future. Have faith tho sig whore, empires do fall, as will the USA empire, but it wont be in our lifetime.

dig420

That is why so many of them who have never been anywhere near the military -- and will never go near it even as their wars are endangered by a lack of volunteers -- have a monomanical obsession with military glory, with constant displays of how "resolute" and "courageous" they are, with notions of forced "submission" and "humiliation" of their opponents (just take notice of how central a role those concepts play in neoconservative "arguments"), and with depicting those who oppose the wars they cheer on as "cowards" (even when the cowards in question are decorated Marines with 30 years of service).

John Dean and Bob Altemeyer have both documented this dynamic as clearly and convincingly as can be. People who feel weak and vulnerable crave strong leaders to protect them and to enable them to feel powerful. And those same people crave being part of a political movement that gives them those sensations of power, strength, triumph and bravery -- and they need a strong, powerful, masculine Leader to enable those feelings. And they will devote absolute loyalty to any political movement which can provide them with that.

That is just the basic dynamic of garden-variety authoritarianism, and it is what the right-wing, pro-Bush political movement is at its core -- far, far more than it is a set of political beliefs or geopolitical objectives or moral agendas. All of it -- the obsessions with glorious "Victory" in an endless string of wars, vesting more and more power in an all-dominant centralized Leader, the forced submission of any country or leader which does not submit to the Leader's Will, the unquestioning Manichean certainties, and especially the endless stigmatization of the whole array of Enemies as decadent, depraved and weak -- it's just base cultural tribalism geared towards making the followers feel powerful and strong and safe.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwa...ult/index.html

A nice long article explaining why actual war heros and soldiers are cowards in conservative eyes (Kerry, Murtha, Carter) and rich momma's boys and hollywood tough guys (Bush, Reagan) and heros.

This is a sick movement and a very real threat to American democracy. It's amazing to me that people like Splum and Daddy Halbucks - paranoid, stupid and oblivious - exist in such numbers in our society. I guess if you didn't have a bottom 50&#37; on the IQ scale, you couldn't have a top 50%. My only concern is that the median seems to keep sliding downward.

Splum

If those children and women are enemies of the USA or its interests... yes.

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Angelo22

You didnt respond to the world war question... oh well, ignorance. But hey. Do you AT LEAST know why america is the last imperialistic (which is entirely different from empire, if only you knew something about politics) country?

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N1CKH0LAS

1.USA have so much satellites they can monitor any activity on the whole planet in real time.They have thousands of men trained to do this, so i assure you no nuclear bomb can even pass Iran borders without being detected and destroyed.
2.Al Qaeda or Hezbollah - They were invented by Bush Administration. Why ? Because this way USA entered (il)Legally in Afghanistan and Irak. Why ? We all know USA use a lot of oil and without oil USA would have BIG problems.
3.No US cities will be nuked.USA it's now an Empire even if they don't want to say or show it. Nothing happens without their confirmation.Now you can sleep calmly: you're not gonna be nuked.

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are you that Ignorant???

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How is it possible that some people are just such INCREDIBLE REDNECKS?

Angelo22

Wow, great security you have over there... poor kids, mostly underweight, not to mention the mistreated women, who are too submissive to their men due to religion. To underline that they are both unarmed, actually pose a threat to the USA?

What are its interests? So far its only been money. So you would kill for money?

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directfiesta

Which war ????

The one on Terror ... or on Drugs ... Those are not wars, they are ideologies conducted by your administration.... Those will never end .... The one on drugs... going on for what ? about 30-40 years ....

Bush has as much authority as brains...

No wonder the world considers the USA has one of the worst countries....

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Iran is already much trouble for everyone ..

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Splum

You mean some Americans dont you Bryan. How do you think Bush was elected?

dig420

We are at WAR with Iran. We have ALWAYS been at war with Iran. War is Peace.

"the characteristic which defines the Bush movement, the glue which binds it together and enables and fuels all of the abuses, is the vicious, limitless methods used to attack and demonize the "Enemy," which encompasses anyone ? foreign or domestic ? threatening to their movement. What defines and motivates this movement are not any political ideas or strategic objectives, but instead, it is the bloodthirsty, ritualistic attacks on the Enemy de jour ? the Terrorist, the Communist, the Illegal Immigrant, the Secularist, and most of all, the "Liberal."

What excites, enlivens, and drives Bush followers is the identification of the Enemy followed by swarming, rabid attacks on it. It is a movement that defines itself not by identifiable ideas but by that which it is not. Its foreign policy objectives are identifiable by one overriding goal ? destroy and kill the Enemy, potential or suspected enemies, and everyone nearby. And it increasingly views its domestic goals through the same lens. It is a movement in a permanent state of war, which views all matters, foreign and domestic, only in terms of this permanent war.

Supreme Court justices who rule against the President on national security matters are tyrants, traitors and pro-terrorist. Journalists who uncover legally dubious government conduct carried out in secret are criminals who should be imprisoned for life or hanged. Virtually every political opponent of the administration?s of any significance ? Howard Dean, Al Gore, John Kerry, the Clintons ? is relentlessly branded as a liar, mentally unstable, corrupt, seditious, and sympathetic to the Enemy.

And even those who devoted much of their adult lives to military service to their country (often in ways far more courageous and impressive than most Bush supporters), or even those who have been longtime Republicans and conservatives, have their characters relentlessly smeared and motives and integrity impugned as soon as they criticize the administration in any way that could embarrass the President ? Richard Clarke, Paul O?Neill, the war critic Generals, Joe Wilson, Scott Ritter, Wesley Clark, John Murtha, John Paul Stevens, and on and on and on.

It is a movement devoted to the destruction of its enemies wherever they might be found. And it finds new ones, in every corner and seemingly on a daily basis, because it must. That is the food which sustains it.
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Phoenix

dont tell me you believe he was rightly elected?


must be easy for you to go through life with blinders on

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Albeit Macht Frei!

Splum

Thats a dumb question.

Everyday when you consume something you are indirectly causing great harm and sometimes death to others. Diamonds, porn, drugs, etc they all take a toll on humans and you and I partake of these pleasures. Congrats for hiding your head in the sand so long.

Regardless when I fought in the Gulf War we had a noble cause so there you go I fought FOR women and children, Kuwaiti women and children.