are you that Ignorant???

How is it possible that some people are just such INCREDIBLE REDNECKS?

Wow, great security you have over there... poor kids, mostly underweight, not to mention the mistreated women, who are too submissive to their men due to religion. To underline that they are both unarmed, actually pose a threat to the USA?

What are its interests? So far its only been money. So you would kill for money?

Which war ????

The one on Terror ... or on Drugs ... Those are not wars, they are ideologies conducted by your administration.... Those will never end .... The one on drugs... going on for what ? about 30-40 years .... :1orglaugh

Bush has as much authority as brains...

No wonder the world considers the USA has one of the worst countries....

Iran is already much trouble for everyone ..

You mean some Americans dont you Bryan. How do you think Bush was elected?

We are at WAR with Iran. We have ALWAYS been at war with Iran. War is Peace.

"the characteristic which defines the Bush movement, the glue which binds it together and enables and fuels all of the abuses, is the vicious, limitless methods used to attack and demonize the "Enemy," which encompasses anyone ? foreign or domestic ? threatening to their movement. What defines and motivates this movement are not any political ideas or strategic objectives, but instead, it is the bloodthirsty, ritualistic attacks on the Enemy de jour ? the Terrorist, the Communist, the Illegal Immigrant, the Secularist, and most of all, the "Liberal."

What excites, enlivens, and drives Bush followers is the identification of the Enemy followed by swarming, rabid attacks on it. It is a movement that defines itself not by identifiable ideas but by that which it is not. Its foreign policy objectives are identifiable by one overriding goal ? destroy and kill the Enemy, potential or suspected enemies, and everyone nearby. And it increasingly views its domestic goals through the same lens. It is a movement in a permanent state of war, which views all matters, foreign and domestic, only in terms of this permanent war.

Supreme Court justices who rule against the President on national security matters are tyrants, traitors and pro-terrorist. Journalists who uncover legally dubious government conduct carried out in secret are criminals who should be imprisoned for life or hanged. Virtually every political opponent of the administration?s of any significance ? Howard Dean, Al Gore, John Kerry, the Clintons ? is relentlessly branded as a liar, mentally unstable, corrupt, seditious, and sympathetic to the Enemy.

And even those who devoted much of their adult lives to military service to their country (often in ways far more courageous and impressive than most Bush supporters), or even those who have been longtime Republicans and conservatives, have their characters relentlessly smeared and motives and integrity impugned as soon as they criticize the administration in any way that could embarrass the President ? Richard Clarke, Paul O?Neill, the war critic Generals, Joe Wilson, Scott Ritter, Wesley Clark, John Murtha, John Paul Stevens, and on and on and on.

It is a movement devoted to the destruction of its enemies wherever they might be found. And it finds new ones, in every corner and seemingly on a daily basis, because it must. That is the food which sustains it.
"

dont tell me you believe he was rightly elected?


must be easy for you to go through life with blinders on

Albeit Macht Frei!

Thats a dumb question.

Everyday when you consume something you are indirectly causing great harm and sometimes death to others. Diamonds, porn, drugs, etc they all take a toll on humans and you and I partake of these pleasures. Congrats for hiding your head in the sand so long.

Regardless when I fought in the Gulf War we had a noble cause so there you go I fought FOR women and children, Kuwaiti women and children.

for the few people that voted him, look at the mirror.

Oh, reply to my posts... unless you consider yourself beaten in this debate

To keep it short, with which country(ies) are the USA NOT at war ?

Just voicing an opinion. If you don't want it, don't read it. Go bomb whoever you want and see where that leaves the US in ten to twenty years. I'm not really interested in getting into a political debate here as it's not really the place for such discussions. I just wanted to voice my opinion.

Must suck for you to live life knowing its not fair. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I was really referring to you but yes you are American. I love Americans just not ones like you that have these opinions. It's really sad actually, I wont change you mind so go on believing whatever gets you though the day.

so you admit you know the elections were rigged...and you think it is funny?

this is why there will be trouble for all the people in t he world soon.


too many morons who laugh at shit that isnt funny

Oh yes, we harm economy. Hiding my head?
As for those causes causing harm to others, do you really still believe in the "everytime you masturbate, god kills a kitten" bullshit?
Youre the one who isnt replying to my questions, but just making up unneeded comparisons, which dont fit in here.

Okay, you fought for women and children? Why are you killing them now? Because your little president ordered you? Because you swore loyalty to the Bush legacy, just as you followed the father, you'll follow the son?

Answer the dumb question. If you consider it so dumb you must have a winning answer ro it

In his world we're 'The Enemy'. If he could vote Bush in for King of the US he would do it in a heartbeat.

Oh come on you bleeding heart tree humping hippie, you know damn well ALL elections in the United States are not "fair". They are run by money, those that have the most money usually win. Yes I think its funny because of how naive you are.

You must live a very paranoid life :2 cents:

Hahahahaha!! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
now, HE is naive?
and what would you be?!?!?!

i am far from naive bottom feeder

what you are is someone who is siding with the devil instead of fighting for what he believes in.


well guess what..the bush mafia doesnt give a shit about you or 12 clicks...you are a wart on their dick and they hate you. so why try to speak for them?

and to just acceept corruption taking over your politics and your government is very weak....i used to think you were a moron...now i know you are just weak


WEAK

#1 You seem to think we are targeting innocent women and children in the world, here is a cluepon for you to redeem, its called collateral damage but of course you are programmed by your governments to believe the empire is evil and killing innocent women and children around the world.
#2 My President is the leader/commander of the armed forces, he directs which battles to fight so yes I have/will fight for my commander anytime they direct. Matter of fact the oath you take when you voluntarily join the military demands that you do so against all enemies foreign AND domestic.

Are you guys fighting Splum over his motherland again? Damn give it up, the guy is as bright as a rock. Trust me, just stop now - nothing will register with him.

so... lets get this straight. it make perfect sense to you when you say you are fighting for what you believe in (i.e. framing your arguments as just and righteous) and at the same time characterizing his arguments as weak and wrong.

if your and his arguments are polar opposites and there is no neutral position, that means you are actually arguing that he agrees with you.

thats not only WEAK ... but a little weird.

Okay, mr lawyer.
Reply to #1
First of all, i am against my own goverment, and critique it as i critique you. Secondly, collateral damage is done unvoluntarily, IF a sufficient number of military personell of the enemy side.
Hitting only civilians is wrong.

Reply to #2
Did you know your enemies in WW2 said the same thing? I see you closely resemble an SS of the nazist army.

Top ten Bush Quotes from 2005

Splum, you are proud this guy leads your Country???

1) "You work three jobs? … Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that." --to a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska, Feb. 4, 2005

2) See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --Greece, N.Y., May 24, 2005

3) "It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us and get them out of harm's way."—Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005

4) "I'm looking forward to a good night's sleep on the soil of a friend."—On the prospect of visiting Denmark, Washington D.C., June 29, 2005

5) "But Iraq has—have got people there that are willing to kill, and they're hard-nosed killers. And we will work with the Iraqis to secure their future." —Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005

6) "We're spending money on clean coal technology. Do you realize we've got 250 million years of coal?"—Washington, D.C., June 8, 2005

7) "Those who enter the country illegally violate the law."
—Tucson, Ariz., Nov. 28, 2005

8) "I can't wait to join you in the joy of welcoming neighbors back into neighborhoods, and small businesses up and running, and cutting those ribbons that somebody is creating new jobs."—Poplarville, Miss., Sept. 5, 2005


9) "We look forward to analyzing and working with legislation that will make—it would hope—put a free press's mind at ease that you're not being denied information you shouldn't see."
—Washington, D.C., April 14, 2005

10) "Because the—all which is on the table begins to address the big cost drivers. For example, how benefits are calculate, for example, is on the table; whether or not benefits rise based upon wage increases or price increases. There's a series of parts of the formula that are being considered. And when you couple that, those different cost drivers, affecting those—changing those with personal accounts, the idea is to get what has been promised more likely to be—or closer delivered to what has been promised. Does that make any sense to you? It's kind of muddled. Look, there's a series of things that cause the—like, for example, benefits are calculated based upon the increase of wages, as opposed to the increase of prices. Some have suggested that we calculate—the benefits will rise based upon inflation, as opposed to wage increases. There is a reform that would help solve the red if that were put into effect. In other words, how fast benefits grow, how fast the promised benefits grow, if those—if that growth is affected, it will help on the red."—Explaining his plan to save Social Security, Tampa, Fla., Feb. 4, 2005

but its soooo nice pwning him =3

funny how everyone claims to value freedom of speech... yet everyone immediately denounces anyone who has an opposing view point, as being "sheep", "brainwashed" or just plain stupid... as if no other view could or should exist and the person making the argument could not, under any circumstances be wrong or learn anything in the discussion.

i don't think that was the intention behind the notion of "free speech"

Basically you just admitted that there is no democracy in America. What is sadder is that you are willing to pick up a gun and fight and kill innocent people for the sake of freedom even though you are not free yourself.

In the case of this last election, there is clear evidence that the voting machines were tampered with and that they didn't have an appropriate number of machines in the propper places. Add to that the thousands of voters scrubbed of the lists we are dealing with massive corruption. It's embarassing that in a country of 250 or 300 million people you can't find a better candidate than Bush or Kerry.

Also just because someone wants the world to be democratic and free does not make them a bleeding heart hippie...an idealist at best but not a hippie. Perhaps if America can ever hold a fair election we can taste some of that freedom and equality that most of us want for the world.

First and foremost what "civilians" are we targeting lol? Oh you mean the types of civilians that strap bombs to themselves and murder other Iraqis? We arent the ones blowing up most of the Iraqis over there dumbass.

You are nothing but a sig whore trying to continue to instigate more posts for yourself with weak arguments. Shouldnt you be rioting in Denmark or something today?

ill try not to insult your comprehension ability here.

my statements...bushco is evil and not doing anything but hurting the american public...that is my premise.

his premise is that im naive for not realizing there is nothing that can be done against them.


our arguments are not polar opposites at all...he is agreeing with me but laughing and saying to just go with it.

it is like the warriors choice..die fast or die slow?

You're not pwning a thing, you're arguing for hours getting nowhere. You are all "pwning" yourselves.

the people you are defending right now...in this very thread stated they want to kill women and children in the name of America..lol

go buy a fuckin clue

No Bryan whatever PERSONAL opinion I have my leader is irrelevant, surely you are not suggesting that one single man represents and entire country. I dont care WHO is President of the USA I will still want my country to be strong, safe, and secure.

Nice lies Phoenix, I said if those women and children were the enemy of the USA and a threat YES I would kill them. Get it right, so if a female homicide bomber ran into your home you wouldnt try and stop her? You liberals are nothing but twisted liars.

Ahem, any idea what happened yesterday in afghanistan?
Those kind of civilians, those who were in their unfortified builinds, and just receive a bombing, with the excuse of being 'potential terrorists'.

I'm not instigating more posts, i couldnt care less, id just buy sigarettes with what i earn whoring my sig anyway.
And no, i shouldnt be in denmark. im all right here pwning your ass and showing the world you know nothing of politics.

Hehe, not my fault he cant accept a loss :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :thumbsup

Now now, what would you say, if i told you 9/11 wasnt caused by the legendary bin laden you fear?
That is what YOU want. but are you sure that that is what your govenrment wants?