List of Affiliate Programs that show ip in your stats ? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

TheDoc · 03-02-2007, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BV

I think on his end he is tracking ip's of surfers based on their traffic source they came from. He then wants to match that ip info up with his sponsor sales ip's in order to see how each of his traffic sources performs.

That's my take anyways.

I thought that is what he was doing but it doesn't make any since. Nobody would logically spend the time across your own different sites & different sponsors, building a list, and parse IP's to see where the sales came from. Talking about taking the long way.

90% of the programs have campaigns. Most can auto create the campaigns at the linking code level. Even if you had to hand create them, it would take less time doing that than it would going through sponsors to parse IP's, even more so when only a handful of sponsors display IP's to webmasters.

TMM_John · 03-02-2007, 08:32 PM

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TMM_John · 03-02-2007, 08:33 PM

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TheDoc · 03-02-2007, 08:34 PM

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will76 · 03-02-2007, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BV

Will,

Add their ip address yourself to everyones url as soon as they hit your page.

Then the ip will show up at the end of each referring url in your sponsors stats.

How simple is that?

That will work only if: 1. they display the url for the person who signs up. 2. if there is a place in there url I can interject my own text without screwing up the url code so it will work, and 3. that the url stays in tact with my extra text (ips) added to it till the signup page or which ever page that sponsors uses to count as the referring url for the signup.

I am not a programmer but i looks to me that could have some problems.

To answer your question TheDoc, the ip address is 1 constant that wont change. I set up tracking software on my end i can log the ip when the person hits my site, through my tracking software i can identify where he came from, i can take it a step further and track the individual urls/banners, etc.. on my site to see which one he signs up through. Now i have all this data for ip:68.34.203.21 that he came from my google adwords, for the words " xxx porn " and he clicked the second link on my page. But this doesn't mean shit to me if I don't get the ip of the people who actually signed up to something.

Honestly I don't care who clicks which banner more, etc on my site I want to know which one they are signing up from. But with out knowing the ip of the person who signups then i will have nothing to go back and match it against the ip from my software to see where he came from (traffic source), what he did (banners he clicked), etc..

Hope that helps.

will76 · 03-02-2007, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

I'm a tad confused..

As an affiliate how does knowing the IP address of the person help?
As an affiliate owner, how does me looking through logs of IP's help? Unless I'm looking for fraud?

We track IP's, I could display them. But I would rather not hit the DB to make extra queries when they aren't important.

If the point of all this is to make you convert better / get more sales. Then it would make way more since for you to track and filter your own traffic, before it reaches the sponsors.

With all due respect you have no understanding of what is going on here.

How do i know what makes me convert better with out knowing where my signups are coming from. You say it would make more sense for me to filter track my own traffic before it gets to you, etc... ok, site xxx sent me 3000 hits and 300 of them clicked the link to your site. i got 500 hits from google, 50 of them clicked your link, i did some tgp skim 1000 for $4 i got 2,000 of them, 200 clicked your links, i bought traffic and traded whatever from 20 more sites etc.. and this was for one site, i have 10 more etc...

So what if i bought 2000 hits from site 1 and only 50 of them clicked your link but 2 of those 50 people signed up and then say i am paying $500 a week for another traffic source and i get 500 of them to click your links but none of them signup, how would i know this ?

Am i suspose to add up all my cost for the week from all my traffic and then deduct that from my sales and be happy if their is a profit ???

How can evaluate which of my banners does better with out knowing which one gets the most signups, just because 1 gets more hits than the others doesnt mean that will be the same for signups.

How would adding one more field on the stats page to show the ip, that you logged anyway, really affect your servers ?

it is very important to have ips shown for affiliates to be able to know exactly what makes them money and what doesn't.

BV · 03-02-2007, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

That will work only if: 1. they display the url for the person who signs up. 2. if there is a place in there url I can interject my own text without screwing up the url code so it will work, and 3. that the url stays in tact with my extra text (ips) added to it till the signup page or which ever page that sponsors uses to count as the referring url for the signup.

I am not a programmer but i looks to me that could have some problems.

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You are not getting at all what I am saying. Let me explain more.

re 1. Most all programs including all CCBill ones show referring urls of signups, so that is not an issue in this argument.

re 2&3. You're not going to be changing your link code to the sponsor, your going to be manipulating your own referring url.

example: Say you have traffic coming to www.yoursite.com/index.php, have a script redirect surfer to www.yoursite.com/index.php?random-unique-number

Then each referring url will show in your sponsors stats with that "random-unique-number" attached

will76 · 03-02-2007, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

I thought that is what he was doing but it doesn't make any since. Nobody would logically spend the time across your own different sites & different sponsors, building a list, and parse IP's to see where the sales came from. Talking about taking the long way.

90% of the programs have campaigns. Most can auto create the campaigns at the linking code level. Even if you had to hand create them, it would take less time doing that than it would going through sponsors to parse IP's, even more so when only a handful of sponsors display IP's to webmasters.

you are wrong I have been using stats like this for clickcash for 5 years now, it is very easy.

for 1 not all programs offer campaigns. When you dealing with a lot of sites and a lot of traffic sources it would take many many hours to go through and set up new campaign after new campaign. I can have a site with 2000 sites on it and i can track set them all up to track a new traffic source in a matter of 1 minute with the way I would do this.

As mentioned in this thread previously one option is a dyanmic url. If you have id= at the end and i can put in anyting i want without having to go through to your site and make a new camaign then that would be fine as long as you show me this url next to my signup.

im going to go bang my head againt the wall for a few more hours and i will be back. Can we get some affiliates who are also programers on here to explain this better than me. please.

TMM_John · 03-02-2007, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

As mentioned in this thread previously one option is a dyanmic url. If you have id= at the end and i can put in anyting i want without having to go through to your site and make a new camaign then that would be fine as long as you show me this url next to my signup.

Are you aware you can do this with NATS?

http://kb.toomuchmedia.com/idx/0/216...link_code.html

However I still don't see anything wrong with providing signup IPs (and other info) to affiliates. We will need to do the optional aspect tho as we can not force programs to give the information and I'm sure some of them (a minority tho) will object to it.

will76 · 03-02-2007, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BV

You are not getting at all what I am saying. Let me explain more.

re 1. Most all programs including all CCBill ones show referring urls of signups, so that is not an issue in this argument.

re 2&3. You're not going to be changing your link code to the sponsor, your going to be manipulating your own referring url.

example: Say you have traffic coming to www.yoursite.com/index.php, have a script redirect surfer to www.yoursite.com/index.php?random-unique-number

Then each referring url will show in your sponsors stats with that "random-unique-number" attached

i think i follow you i would have to try that, so if i use a php redirect to my affiliate url than my php link will be the referring url and all these programs show referring urls ?

TheDoc · 03-02-2007, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

you are wrong I have been using stats like this for clickcash for 5 years now, it is very easy.

for 1 not all programs offer campaigns. When you dealing with a lot of sites and a lot of traffic sources it would take many many hours to go through and set up new campaign after new campaign. I can have a site with 2000 sites on it and i can track set them all up to track a new traffic source in a matter of 1 minute with the way I would do this.

As mentioned in this thread previously one option is a dyanmic url. If you have id= at the end and i can put in anyting i want without having to go through to your site and make a new camaign then that would be fine as long as you show me this url next to my signup.

im going to go bang my head againt the wall for a few more hours and i will be back. Can we get some affiliates who are also programers on here to explain this better than me. please.

Well I use NATS - Most of my sponsors are NATS sponsors other than 3 or 4.
How To Auto Create Campaigns In NATS

I have the same type of system. But I still don't auto create campaigns. I create groups at a time and dump them into the db. They match sites and such - and often are numbers and match keyword phrases. When adwords sends traffic I parse the phrase, get the ip, and whenever I like I can pull a campaign report and see how things are going.

You sound like you only do this for click cash. I only do this on a few sponsors and myself. I don't have a need to create 1000's across many sponsors every day. Just a couple new ones a week, and campaigns make that very easy to manage.

BV · 03-02-2007, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

With all due respect you have no understanding of what is going on here.

So what if i bought 2000 hits from site 1 and only 50 of them clicked your link but 2 of those 50 people signed up and then say i am paying $500 a week for another traffic source and i get 500 of them to click your links but none of them signup, how would i know this ? .

3 ways i know of maybe more

1. by sending site 1's hits to one page and site 2's hits to a cloned page with a different url

2. what i said in my previous post upstairs,
send your traffic from source1 to www.yoursite.com/index.php?source1 and your traffic from sourc2 to www.yoursite.com/index.php?source2

3. by using sponsors campaign manager if available

Nookster · 03-02-2007, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

You want the IPs of joins or of hits?

Also, for what purpose may I ask?

On a side note, we are adding geo-stats breakdowns to NATS so you can see what countries your hits and joins originate from.

That's gonna be sweet. Can't wait for that. I coded it into my own tracker and have always wanted that feature in the programs I use. Most are NATS sponsors btw so that will be awesome.

will76 · 03-02-2007, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

Are you aware you can do this with NATS?

http://kb.toomuchmedia.com/idx/0/216...link_code.html

However I still don't see anything wrong with providing signup IPs (and other info) to affiliates. We will need to do the optional aspect tho as we can not force programs to give the information and I'm sure some of them (a minority tho) will object to it.

No i am not aware of that I will try that out as well. Unfortunetly not everyone uses nats. I am open to any ways to accomplish the same task. I am 100% sure it can be done easy and reliably using ips, if you added this option that would be great and If sponsors choose not to show it (i have no clue why they wouldn't) I just wont use those.

thanks.

will76 · 03-02-2007, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BV

3 ways i know of maybe more

1. by sending site 1's hits to one page and site 2's hits to a cloned page with a different url

2. what i said in my previous post upstairs,
send your traffic from source1 to www.yoursite.com/index.php?source1 and your traffic from sourc2 to www.yoursite.com/index.php?source2

3. by using sponsors campaign manager if available

I'll try #2 out, but 1 and 3 are not pratical when you are dealing with several sites several spnonsors and several traffic sources.

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