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Old 02-26-2007, 04:55 PM   #1
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Gore Mansion Uses 20x Average Household

Last night, Al Gore?s global-warming documentary, An Inconvenient Truth, collected an Oscar for best documentary feature, but the Tennessee Center for Policy Research has found that Gore deserves a gold statue for hypocrisy.

Gore?s mansion, [20-room, eight-bathroom] located in the posh Belle Meade area of Nashville, consumes more electricity every month than the average American household uses in an entire year, according to the Nashville Electric Service (NES).

In his documentary, the former Vice President calls on Americans to conserve energy by reducing electricity consumption at home.

The average household in America consumes 10,656 kilowatt-hours (kWh) per year, according to the Department of Energy. In 2006, Gore devoured nearly 221,000 kWh?more than 20 times the national average.

Last August alone, Gore burned through 22,619 kWh?guzzling more than twice the electricity in one month than an average American family uses in an entire year. As a result of his energy consumption, Gore?s average monthly electric bill topped $1,359.

Since the release of An Inconvenient Truth, Gore?s energy consumption has increased from an average of 16,200 kWh per month in 2005, to 18,400 kWh per month in 2006.

Gore?s extravagant energy use does not stop at his electric bill. Natural gas bills for Gore?s mansion and guest house averaged $1,080 per month last year.

?As the spokesman of choice for the global warming movement, Al Gore has to be willing to walk to walk, not just talk the talk, when it comes to home energy use,? said Tennessee Center for Policy Research President Drew Johnson.

In total, Gore paid nearly $30,000 in combined electricity and natural gas bills for his Nashville estate in 2006.

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Old 02-26-2007, 05:10 PM   #2
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Hes a Lefwing, hollywood freak Lib. Of course he does not practice what he preaches...

BTW, how many stars did you see being dropped off at the red carped in a Prius, or other 'earth friendly car'? None, all used gass guzzling, carbon hog limos.
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Old 02-26-2007, 05:12 PM   #3
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hahaha. Go Gore! Rape that planet, you know she likes it.
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I bet he's hardly ever home either. Ouch!

Any documentary that touches on a hot topic usually does well, regardless of the facts or lies within it. Kind of funny if you ask me.
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It's called elitism... Remember Gore and the other Hollywood folk think they are better than you and smarter than you. Of course the rules don't apply to them. How much power do you think was wasted at that self serving event? Anyone who looks up to that freak Gore needs to get themself checked out. A bunch of fucking hypocrites.

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when they start attacking documentary they means they really hit a note. They dont attack bullshit.
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when they start attacking documentary they means they really hit a note. They dont attack bullshit.
Oh come on. You don't find it funny that the man preaching the most about global warming has an 8 bathroom house and spends over $30k a year on home energy?
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Figures they are all hyprotites

He is a mason like bush, just a different front same world domination goals.
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it doesnt matter if you use that much if you compensate by spending that much on green energy. You can offset what you use with cold hard cash.

Donate 5 million bucks to a group that works on green energy and your "karma points" for energy use are in the black pretty much no matter how big your house is.

Also, I know where I live I have a choice of buying my energy from green companies (meaning companies that generate their electricity through hydro or wind).. we do that, so we use a ton of electricity but we're not fucking the world up.
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Everyone knows politicians are liars thats a given, but don't criticise the left wing when the right won't even admit theres a problem (until this year). Bush wouldn't admit global warming even existed until this year get a grip....
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when they start attacking documentary they means they really hit a note. They dont attack bullshit.
With all due respect Tony, bullshit is exactly what gets attacked.
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Everyone knows politicians are liars thats a given, but don't criticise the left wing when the right won't even admit theres a problem (until this year). Bush wouldn't admit global warming even existed until this year get a grip....
Global warming exists, so does global cooling. The argument is whether man is causing it. Hell, if we stop driving cars, and doing all the other things we like to do, who is gonna stop China, India, Mexico, Russia, and the list goes on? Are they gonna just do what we say? Seems to me, we asked them to help us take down Saddam, and they said Screw you buddy, we make too much money off the guy. When we start trying to regulate their emissions, do you think they will say "thanks, we trust in the good ole USA!"
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I always love stuff like this.

Let's start. On a per square foot basis, does the Gore "mansion" use more or less than the average american house with heating and air conditioning? Should we begrudge someone for making money and being able to afford a larger house?

If anything, the energy bills he pays should have charges in them to either assure a reduction in usage or to provide enough money to support reducing the greenhouse gases that may be released as a result of the generation of the electricity.

Of course, we could knock down all the homes in american and replace every one of them with a cookie cutter 1200 square foot concrete bunker, making sure that everyone uses the same amount of electricity.

Wait, they do that in North Korea. It's called being a broke ass socialist state.

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Just a side note, the "mansion" has (amoungst other things) 20 rooms and 8 bathrooms.
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George W. Bush a Closet Green?

Is it possible that George Bush is a secret Green? Evidently his Crawford Winter White House has 25,000 gallons of rainwater storage, gray water collection from sinks and showers for irrigation, passive solar, geothermal heating and cooling. “By marketplace standards, the house is startlingly small,” says David Heymann, the architect of the 4,000-square-foot home. "Clients of similar ilk are building 16-to-20,000-square-foot houses." Furthermore for thermal mass the walls are clad in "discards of a local stone called Leuders limestone, which is quarried in the area. The 12-to-18-inch-thick stone has a mix of colors on the top and bottom, with a cream-colored center that most people want. “They cut the top and bottom of it off because nobody really wants it,” Heymann says. “So we bought all this throwaway stone. It’s fabulous. It’s got great color and it is relatively inexpensive.”

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I always love stuff like this.

Let's start. On a per square foot basis, does the Gore "mansion" use more or less than the average american house with heating and air conditioning? Should we begrudge someone for making money and being able to afford a larger house?

If anything, the energy bills he pays should have charges in them to either assure a reduction in usage or to provide enough money to support reducing the greenhouse gases that may be released as a result of the generation of the electricity.

Of course, we could knock down all the homes in american and replace every one of them with a cookie cutter 1200 square foot concrete bunker, making sure that everyone uses the same amount of electricity.

Wait, they do that in North Korea. It's called being a broke ass socialist state.

Next.
We all want a big house and $30,000 powerbills. But Al Gore tells us we shouldn't have those because of the damage we are doing to the environment. He wants higher taxes on us and the government to be in control of healthcare, so we can head down the road to being a broke ass socialist state. The point is, he wants you and me to live in the 1200 sq ft cookie cutter, while he lives in a huge house, that has 20 times eco-damaging properties of ours. His hipocrisy is the point, not his wealth.
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Scardog, sorry, I just don't read that anywhere. I have no doubt you would be a Dubya voter. 'nuff said.
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Gotta love it... maybe Gore is greener than most:

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A day after a film about his efforts to combat global warming won an Oscar, former Vice President Al Gore was called a hypocrite by a Tennessee group that said his Belle Meade home is consuming too much energy.

The home's average monthly electric bill last year was just under $1,200, according to bills that The Tennessean acquired from Nashville Electric Service.


"As the spokesman of choice for the global warming movement, Al Gore has to be willing to walk (the) walk, not just talk the talk, when it comes to home energy use," said Drew Johnson, president of the Tennessee Center for Policy Research, identified as a free-market think tank.

Gore's power bill shows, however, that the former vice president may be doing just that.

Gore purchased 108 blocks of "green power" for each of the past three months, according to a summary of the bills.

That's a total of $432 a month Gore paid extra for solar or other renewable energy sources.

The green power Gore purchased in those three months is equivalent to recycling 2.48 million aluminum cans or 286,092 pounds of newspaper, according to comparison figures on NES' Web site.

NES joined the TVA program in 2000 to give power customers a way to support environmentally sound sources of electricity. The Tennessean could not determine when Gore signed up for green power.

NES gets its electricity from TVA. Most is produced from coal, which emits carbon, a greenhouse gas. A lesser amount comes from nuclear power and a small amount from hydroelectric.
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The amount of energy he uses is nothing compared to how much Oil he owns


"In September of 1995, as part of the pompously named National Performance Review?Al Gore?s fatuous project to cut down government waste, fraud and mismanagement?the Vice President boldly declared that he was recommending the privatization of Elk Hills, a 47,000-acre oil-rich land in Southern California. Since 1912 it had been in the possession of the U.S. Navy as an emergency oil reserve. The oil companies salivated and made their bids. In October 1997 the Energy Dept. announced that the U.S. government would sell its stake in Elk Hills to Occidental Petroleum for $3.65 billion. Overnight, Occidental?s U.S. oil reserves tripled. Occidental?s stock surged and its stockholders glowed. One of them was the Vice President?s father, Al Gore Sr. He owned more than $500,000 worth of Occidental stock. A clear conflict of interest? Not to the airheads in the media. Neither then nor any time since have they evinced the slightest curiosity about this deal. Or indeed about the Gore family?s long and intimate connection with Occidental and, in particular, with its longtime chairman, the shady and sinister Armand Hammer."

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Scardog, sorry, I just don't read that anywhere. I have no doubt you would be a Dubya voter. 'nuff said.
Don't read what anywhere? If you don't see Gore being hippocritical here, then you are right, 'nuff said.

Have you ever heard of the libertarian party?

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wow...that doesn't help his cause out...haha
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Global warming exists, so does global cooling. The argument is whether man is causing it. Hell, if we stop driving cars, and doing all the other things we like to do, who is gonna stop China, India, Mexico, Russia, and the list goes on? Are they gonna just do what we say? Seems to me, we asked them to help us take down Saddam, and they said Screw you buddy, we make too much money off the guy. When we start trying to regulate their emissions, do you think they will say "thanks, we trust in the good ole USA!"
Obviously it exists no one's arguing that. I said that Bush never acknowledged that it existed.

Also no one is going to stop driving cars and trucks it fuels our extire economy, but if you look at the numbers, the US consumes like 1/3 of the worlds oil if not more so how can you say that we don't make a difference? Also our emission regulations are a joke compared to the rest of the world (besides mexico and 3rd world countries)

As far as Saddam goes, no one is going to back us when they knew what we were doing was wrong. Who the fuck are we to tell one of the oldest civilizations in the world how to govern themselves? That's like telling an animal whos been here millions of years before us like an aligator that he needs to be a vegetarian... not gonna happen. The rest of the world knew we were using our muscle for oil bids and to exploit our own country's freedoms, and use of central government to get rich and fuck us all not just the countries we are trying to exploit as well... ur post made no sense and made you sound ignorant... write something back i want to burn you again please
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Just reading the top paragragh, I'd say sure if the "average household" was a mansion of equal size, there'd be basis for comparison.
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Obviously it exists no one's arguing that. I said that Bush never acknowledged that it existed.

Also no one is going to stop driving cars and trucks it fuels our extire economy, but if you look at the numbers, the US consumes like 1/3 of the worlds oil if not more so how can you say that we don't make a difference? Also our emission regulations are a joke compared to the rest of the world (besides mexico and 3rd world countries)

As far as Saddam goes, no one is going to back us when they knew what we were doing was wrong. Who the fuck are we to tell one of the oldest civilizations in the world how to govern themselves? That's like telling an animal whos been here millions of years before us like an aligator that he needs to be a vegetarian... not gonna happen. The rest of the world knew we were using our muscle for oil bids and to exploit our own country's freedoms, and use of central government to get rich and fuck us all not just the countries we are trying to exploit as well... ur post made no sense and made you sound ignorant... write something back i want to burn you again please

Okay. If we cut our global warming causing gas emissions in half, right now, what effect will that have on the climate? How quickly will we cool off?


So, you are saying Russia, China, and France weren't making back door deals with Saddam? And you are saying that these countries were against us invading because they didn't think we should tell the Iraqi's how to govern themselves? I guess I do sound ignorant to you. Feel free to share your wisdom. I don't hate you for disagreeing with me. I won't even call you names, or try to label you. Sound good?
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He is a mason like bush, just a different front same world domination goals.
LOL - clearly you know nothing about masonry.
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Gore lacks some real leadership traits, for sure... he's not the straightest shooter in our political landscape...

I mean, for instance, those that say he never claimed responsibility for inventing the internet didn't attend the same speech that I did in Cambridge in 1996, where he sure as hell did.

The message he brings, though... regarding this global warming stuff... even if a bit exaggerated... is still something that I think we need to consider - and if we don't - especially if it's for such an insignificant reason as one's distaste for the messenger - we're doing ourselves a grave disservice.

Gore might be the kind of guy that tells us he caught a fish twice as big as was actually caught, when's he's not even the one that caught it... even so - we still gotta remember that for all his possible grand-standing, that still doesn't mean that there wasn't a fish that was caught.
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Gore lacks some real leadership traits, for sure... he's not the straightest shooter in out political landscape...

I mean, for instance, those that say he never claimed responsibility for inventing the internet didn't attend the same speech that I did in Cambridge in 1996, where he sure as hell did.

The message he brings, though... regarding this global warming stuff... even if a bit exaggerated... is still something that I think we need to consider - and if we don't - especially if it's for such an insignificant reason as one's distaste for the messenger - we're doing ourselves a grave disservice.

Gore might be the kind of guy that tells us he caught a fish twice as big as was actually caught, when's he's not even the one that caught it... even so - we still gotta remember that his all grand-standing doesn't mean that there wasn't a fish that was caught.
Well said! Many climatologists disagree on wheter human C02 production is contributing to global warming. I think we all want a clean environment, clean water, fresh air, etc. Who doesn't? What my fear is, is that this sudden media blitz and pressure to discuss global warming is a lead up to some legislation and taxation, and not a real fear that humanity is hanging in the balance (this is akin to the right wing pretending to protect children, by legislating adult activity). Otherwise, people like Gore would walk the walk more. Hell, he was second in command for 8 years, why didn't he put pressure on Clinton then if he thought our lives were in danger? I know he wrote a book, but so what? He was the second most powerful man in the world for 8 years.
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When is someone going to make a documentary about how when the sun becomes a red giant in like 4 billion years it will complete engulf the Earth and kill everyone.

On a long enough timeline - we're all dead. Future generations - all dead. Me, you, your children - all dead.

So called 'global warming' is a non-issue in the grand scheme of things, people should be more worried about loving their families and caring for those in society who need help.

The day we abandon our own humanity for a 'global' cause that is outside any one person's circle of influence is a SAD day for humanity.

Fuck Al Gore - I would rather give every homeless person a roof over their head or spend a day golfing with my Grandfather than run around spreading a message of fear and death, using politics to bastardize a bad science.
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Thats very dissapointing.. and so is the story on his father interest in the oil companies..everybody is in it for the $$..which is why we will never have a true democracy in USA.
I would have thought that he had installed solar panels at his estate, then he could use as much energy as he wanted...solar panels are now readily available at a resonable low cost and so are hybrid cars,for those who really want to "drive the walk".
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Global warming exists, so does global cooling. The argument is whether man is causing it. Hell, if we stop driving cars, and doing all the other things we like to do, who is gonna stop China, India, Mexico, Russia, and the list goes on? Are they gonna just do what we say? Seems to me, we asked them to help us take down Saddam, and they said Screw you buddy, we make too much money off the guy. When we start trying to regulate their emissions, do you think they will say "thanks, we trust in the good ole USA!"
Like taking down Saddam is something usefull to the world....

And USA is the one that never signs these kind of regulations.
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Old 02-27-2007, 10:31 AM   #37
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Just reading the top paragragh, I'd say sure if the "average household" was a mansion of equal size, there'd be basis for comparison.
Exactly
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Old 02-27-2007, 10:43 AM   #38
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Like taking down Saddam is something usefull to the world....

And USA is the one that never signs these kind of regulations.
Some people think Saddam was a bad guy. I never met him, but he did have a bad rep.

That is just what we need. China and other anti-american countries regulating how we do business. I bet they would like to get their laws on the porn biz too. I hate 2257, but I would hate to see the chinese version of it
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Old 02-27-2007, 10:57 AM   #39
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well.. i guess since the guy who's put global warming in the minds of almost every person on the continent IS a hypocrite! Alright! Everyone back to what they were doing!

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Old 02-27-2007, 11:02 AM   #40
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well.. i guess since the guy who's put global warming in the minds of almost every person on the continent IS a hypocrite! Alright! Everyone back to what they were doing!

lol

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If the Republican aholes that want 2257, and really want to shut us down actually, got caught being members or owners of several hardcore porn sites, we would shout it from the rooftops.

When a guy that claims global warming is gonna flood the east coast due to most of us doing exactly what he is doing (except he is doing it 20 fold), we just should call him on it IMO. Doesn't mean we have to change our belief system on what causes global warming.
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Old 02-27-2007, 11:17 AM   #41
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Wow, what a touchy subject. I'm not even going to get into it. But it is all very disappointing but not surprising.
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Ok I am scared that we have a poster here that actually makes sense on many levels, kudos to scardog for making some very relevant points.
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Old 02-27-2007, 12:13 PM   #43
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Ok I am scared that we have a poster here that actually makes sense on many levels, kudos to scardog for making some very relevant points.

Now this, I'm not used to. Thanks Splum. I enjoy a good discussion.
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OMG @ his giant electric bill.
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I always get a laugh out of these things, because they whole thread is a junior high debate club attempt to take people away from looking at the message and instead into looking at an individual.

The amount of electricity used by the Gores in relation to other 20 room 8 bathroom houses in the area they live just isn't that important overall. Trying to get people to ignore the idea of global warming or the effects of mankind on the planet moves the debate from "the better good of man" and moved it to "Al Gore is an ass".

Okay, Al Gore is an ass. But let's talk about the movie, and the concept of global warming, which is way more important than his personal electricity bill.
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I guess I do sound ignorant to you.
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it doesnt matter if you use that much if you compensate by spending that much on green energy. You can offset what you use with cold hard cash.

Donate 5 million bucks to a group that works on green energy and your "karma points" for energy use are in the black pretty much no matter how big your house is.

Also, I know where I live I have a choice of buying my energy from green companies (meaning companies that generate their electricity through hydro or wind).. we do that, so we use a ton of electricity but we're not fucking the world up.
Just so you know Green Energy IS available through NES. Id be interested to see which one he choose, standard or green.....
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Hell they can afford it, and when all hell breaks loose, they will build bubbles to live in, and watch the rest of us die.
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Just so you know Green Energy IS available through NES. Id be interested to see which one he choose, standard or green.....
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Gore purchased 108 blocks of "green power" for each of the past three months, according to a summary of the bills.

That's a total of $432 a month Gore paid extra for solar or other renewable energy sources.
So there ya go.
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Great point! Thanks for sharing.
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