http://www.desktopbsd.net comes with KDE. For the record bsd is not actually linux, but it runs most of its binaries, while the opposite doesnt happen.

I've used myself Windows from version 1.0 in 1986 and up to XP/w2k3. Overall I was never impressed with the work done by MSFT and always having in mind the size of the company. Last week I checked a full preview video of Vista and again I was kind of dissapointed. MacOs as Diesel said is great OS and keeps getting better for the simple reason it introduces various innovations that are on the right direction. With Windows you can't tell all their changes are actual improvements. I predict over the next 10 years new OS slowly but steadily will gain popularity among users.

Have you heard the One Laptop per Child project by Nikos Negroponte? It's not a project anymore, rather a reality and comes with an OS for kids called SUGAR which was developed by Red Hat team itself. It's going to be distributed to millions of students all of which they'll more likely be introduced to linux principles before even getting to hear about Windows.

Never thought about that. Since I'm always eventually in need of help with my computer for one thing or another, I'll stick with PC for now.

Weak comeback.

A.) Weak.

B.) Pink writing?! How fucking gay are you? No wonder you like Macs!

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probably gonna jinx myself ....I have 5 PC's and one macG4 ..but i spend almost all my time on my little shitty toshiba laptop 1.5G ram .. 60 G hard drive .. xp pro ... for over a year it has pretty much been running non stop .. and I just recently bought a cooling fan for it under serious recommendation .. but i personally think the trick is to keep it clean .. Ccleaner .. and registry repair regularly.. ad aware and grisoft ..everything licensed .. and legal .. and it runs pretty damn good ..

wow, by the looks of this thread, SantaCruz grew up getting picked on by the geeky kid who always walked around with the mac laptop in his backpack causing him to have a severe hatred for macs and mac users...

grow up guy.

OR you use a Mac and not worry about registry repair, spyware, or virus infections.. :winkwink:

why did you discard the LINUX option?

:1orglaugh That was most likely you since you can in no way determine that as a fact simply by reading posts on a forum. Or wait, maybe you are just a fucking dumbass?

Me grow up? Mind your own business, partner.

Because Linux is even gayer.

Actually, all the mac users I know follow this same assumption...basically don't call me because I'm not going to be able to assist you.

Personally I use a windows laptop that dual boots to either Windows XP or Ubuntu and I'm pretty happy with it. I rarely have issues with my pc...so for me at least PCs have always been rather reliable.

I can't remember the last time in 2 years I had any of those issues

Haha, same here. It's just bullshit that gets over hyped and these people buy into it. Brands like Apple have these kids by the balls.

all of you are stupid and need to get a life.......... the whole mac vs pc debate is so fucking pointless. Just try both computers and use whichever you prefer and like better........

does mac pay people or something?

I can't imagine walking into a dildo convetion and being the user of a Jack Rabbit and getting into crazy fights with people that use pocket rockets because the Jack Rabbit is BETTER dammit! hahahahha

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

take it eeeeeasy. :thumbsup

Someone please tell me why YOU need a Mac.

I've had this PC for at least 4 years. I haven't had one problem with it. It's fast, very reliable, and runs every program I need it to.

If you refer to my previous posts on this matter, I said I was simply looking into the mac route. I didnt say I was going to buy one. I too have had a compaq for four years with limited amounts of problems because I knew my systems tendencies inside out. Since the macos as evolved singnificantly over the years and many compatibility issues have been resolved, I feel inclined to give the macos a chance.....thats all. I am already in the process of working with a macos on a macbook to see if its performance(not show) impresses me.....so far it has met all my expectations in all areas.

You shut the fuck up.

If max is so good, why didn't they make their own OS, instead of raping the shit out of BSD?

wow, you really are coming across as the moron fanboi in this thread friend, i think your taking the os wars way too seriously...

btw, macs offer a great package in terms of compatibility and usability. i have a mac pro dual 2.66GHz xeon w/ 8GB memory and its really nice to have that much ram to play w/... and the top end memory limit is 16GBs. show me a windows xp machine that can handle that kind of memory, there isn't one... the only Windows OS that can handle more than 2GB (3GB w/ the /3GB switch) is the server flavor, and it doesn't handle large pages very well..

Although I am a steadfast Mac fan, I also have a windows machine (Athlon 1.1 ghz ,5 years old) that still runs winXP just fine. But I will correct you on one thing. Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit edition can handle up to 8gigs of ram. However, it will have even LESS driver support than Vista already has. But at least you have another option other than Server Edition.

Who spells fanboy "FANBOI"? - Oh yeah little girls and anime fans.

Who the fuck needs 8gbs of ram?! LMAO, 16gbs is even more ridiculous, and shit you can't even use that for games! Such a stupid point to make on your part, I've never known a need other than music production for 8 fucking gb, let alone 16. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh WEAK!!!

hahahahaha!

Get both :D

What's the point?

Well, if you've never heard of it, I guess no-one needs it, right? I mean, in all seriousness, how do you have the time to post on this board with all the world leaders calling you asking for your wisdom?
I know you're just having fun baiting along the people into a flamewar with you, but the more posts I read the more stupid people are just thinking you are. Please stop. For us. For humanity.

Riiiight. How easy is it for someone to write this and call me out as a flamewar instigator? Whatever bro, do your thing and avoid the clear point I am making here. Nobody needs 8gb or 16gb of ram except producers and nutty tech fags. 8gb...lmao, fuck outta here with that bullshit, it was a weak point.

hmm some angry people in here..
i love the tv add where the pc guy is this older lonely geek and the mac guy is a hip 20 something. the most recent one the pc is going in for peripherial upgrade and the mac (gay?) guy is checking out his ass...pretending not to like the view..

anyways, i have pc's and a imac 1.2 ghz notebook. the mac is solid, runs fine, never any real problems, but i do lots of pictures, think batch convert 150 photos each 30 mb raw files. and the mac is slow.. my pc (one of the first version amd 64 chips) does much faster even though they are both same speed and same amount of ram.

Pfffffft, there IS NO CONTEST.

You cannot use a Windows laptop as a carpenter's/builder's level ergo the Mac wins hands down.


On a side note, the technlogoy driving this saved my bacon today when I dropped my laptop, producing a nice dent where the HD is. The laptop woke from sleep, took about 30 seconds to deactivate the sudden motion sensor, then everything went back to normal.

At least they contribute enormously to the FreeBSD project. When did Windows ever give anything back to the community?

interesting

lol, you must not do much other than play games and surf porn forums on your computer then, as having that much ram is quite the boon for many tasks... video editing, 3d animation/compositing just to name a couple. i think the weak point is more your box which sounds like its limited to 2GBs (and probably only has 256MB anyways)... i'm out though, you really aren't worth debating w/ troll-boy..

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What are you using to batch the pictures on the mac? The reason I ask is if your using Photoshop, then your not using the power of the mac yet. Photoshop is still running in "rosseta" mode. CS3 is optimized for the Intel mac, and the beta release is already faster. If you own CS2 you can download the CS3 Beta from Adobe using your serial number/user info.

Why would someone need 16gig of ram? Are you kidding me? I guess you haven't noticed so I'll point this out to you very slowly v...i...d...i...o. Some would say it's one of the foundations of the industry that we are in. Yes on a mac your currently going to be using Final Cut. But, adobe has announced they are back in the mac game and will be releasing the new version of premier for the mac.

And the price difference? If you compare like systems (well as close to like as you can find) The Mac's are actually CHEAPER. http://www.macworld.com/2006/08/feat...?lsrc=mwtoprss

Thats just one older example. Put do what I did and actually look at the specs of a Macbook Pro 17 then find me a matched windows laptop cheaper. Oh and that Matched laptop should have Firewire 800 AND usb2, 8x double-layer burner, able to take 3 gigs of ram and for video, ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 graphics with 256MB SDRAM.

What it comes down to is use. If your wanting a computer to wack off on porn all day, read GFY and bitch then take a break to play computer games, yes a Windows based machine will work for you. When you start moving into the Professional video/audio then your windows options become limited due to the memory issue. What you use has no effect on me, I really could careless. If you have windoz stuck so far up your ass that you can't think strait that's your problem not mine.

Flame away!

my mac notebook is not one with the intel chips, guess it is the older version, apprx 2 years old (still newer than my pc), can i still take advantage of the faster CS3 ? does it make any difference? over the years the speed argument has always gone back and forth where mac people claim to be equally fast.. and always in retrospect the pc's have been faster (and according to mac peeps, the next brand new OS will now outdo the pc). Someone should do a test bench doing photoshop batch scripts as the test medium...

A.) Calling someone a troll is too easy.

B.) I have 256mb ram? What, you can see into my house now? Fuck outta here nimrod.

C.) I did say producers did I not? Fuck off idiot.

OMFG :1orglaugh This really shows how a NOOB this morron is. Coming here and insulting everyones in this community without even knowin' who Tassy is....

LAME.

Santa Cruz you are very pathetic.. :2 cents:

Grow up kid we are maikng business here. Just incase you haven't got it yet this is is an Adult Webmasters board here. Many people here are also friends in the real life ...

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Have any of your 59 posts not contained insults?

You sound like an angry 12 year old