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Old 02-19-2007, 07:27 PM   #1
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:stop Crazy Carlos - Crazy Ben.. Time to pay up!

Crazy Carlos - After trying to contact you for weeks via ICQ, email and GFY threads, Crazy Ben jumps on your ICQ id and tells me you are on holidays and that Jason (darkhorse) and I will be paid that week (05-11-06) I have the ICQ logs).

This goes on for a few weeks then I email you again. You tell me you have left the company and that you paid everyone before leaving.... That?s all very well, but Jason (darkhorse) and I didn?t get paid.

A few more weeks pass with no payment and Jason was a little tight on cash so I pay him the money YOU owe him (I didn?t mind as I figured you guys would pay me).

Ok, so today is the 20-02-07 and I?m still waiting on my payment for the work I did for YOU. Wether you have left the company or not, the fact remains that YOU hired me, and YOU still need to pay me. When you hired me you hired me through CRAZY PAYOUTS, not some side project.

If this isn?t resolved, I can?t see any reason why I or anyone else would want to promote Crazy Payouts, as you guys simply don?t pay up.

Pay up Crazy Carlos/Crazy Ben.
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Old 02-19-2007, 07:28 PM   #2
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Old 02-19-2007, 07:29 PM   #3
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Always good to see non-payers outed.

The more of this that happens, the less it happens in the future.

A good thing.

Nice work Kayla !!!

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Old 02-19-2007, 07:32 PM   #7
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I will backup everything Kayla has said, She has been trying to get this money that has been owed to her for months and is just getting the run-around.

Week in and week out it a diff excuse.....
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Old 02-19-2007, 07:32 PM   #8
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Old 02-19-2007, 07:34 PM   #9
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Old 02-19-2007, 07:37 PM   #10
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Yeah same thing happened to me, wasted my time doing some mascot but he ignored me when it's time to pay up.
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Old 02-19-2007, 07:40 PM   #11
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Good Stuff Kayla, if people like this wont payup and youve tried whole heartedly to contact them on numerous times, then this is certainly the best way to deal with issues, as other people wont want to deal with them if they dont pay for work done. You should do a fansign and pay them out bigtime . Or if you want i can go and see a mufti and get a fatwah put on them
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Old 02-19-2007, 07:40 PM   #12
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Old 02-19-2007, 07:42 PM   #13
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Old 02-19-2007, 07:46 PM   #14
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That's crazy...

How much do they owe you? If it's a lot, perhaps they could at least pay you in installments.

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Old 02-19-2007, 11:46 PM   #15
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I cant see them paying me at all let alone in installments..
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Old 02-19-2007, 11:54 PM   #16
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Hmmm...he said he left the company? I was going to do some work for him in the past and he said he owned part of the company, not that he worked for them. I have ICQ logs to back that up as well. I really do hope you get paid but I would seriously doubt it.
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Old 02-19-2007, 11:54 PM   #17
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Old 02-20-2007, 12:33 AM   #18
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Hmmm...he said he left the company? I was going to do some work for him in the past and he said he owned part of the company, not that he worked for them. I have ICQ logs to back that up as well. I really do hope you get paid but I would seriously doubt it.
ahh you had a job with "crazy payouts" to. That makes 4 people who have had "jobs" with Carlos..
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ahh you had a job with "crazy payouts" to. That makes 4 people who have had "jobs" with Carlos..
I never actually took the work. Something just didn't seem right so I passed on it. One of the things that tipped me off was Ben wanted to hire me, but a few days later I see him posting a thread looking for grunt work. He said he owned half of the company, was trying to pass grunt work off to me, and then was looking for it for himself from other people. I never actually spoke to Carlos but I assume that was his partner.
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I will backup everything Kayla has said, She has been trying to get this money that has been owed to her for months and is just getting the run-around.

Week in and week out it a diff excuse.....
oh that sucks

been there as well and the people who owe us money still doing buissiness here in gfy.. cool ha! goodluck guys!
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I never actually took the work. Something just didn't seem right so I passed on it. One of the things that tipped me off was Ben wanted to hire me, but a few days later I see him posting a thread looking for grunt work. He said he owned half of the company, was trying to pass grunt work off to me, and then was looking for it for himself from other people. I never actually spoke to Carlos but I assume that was his partner.
This gets funnier by the minute... I posted in a thread Ben made and then got an email from Carlos telling me "Ben is my designer and sale rep so stop telling him to pay you because has no clue what you are talking about." thats quoted from an email sent by Carlos!
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Thanks for posting this. I will add them to the blacklist of aff programs. Suggest others do the same.
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Kayla.

Post as much information as you have about them here. I agree with Toyboy the more people outted the better. The industry bar is raising and the scammers are not welcome anymore.
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Post as much information as you have about them here. I agree with Toyboy the more people outted the better. The industry bar is raising and the scammers are not welcome anymore.
Doot, agrees with me?

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well Ive been doing some searching in google and found that my dear friend Carlos has been posting on another adult just last week!
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Been a busy guy he has, maybe having different names is taking its toll hey.
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I got to bump it for Kayla.... It sucks big time when you finish shitloads of work and after all got nothing for it

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Oh now come on its such an interesting front page:P
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Or Crazy Ben since we know you have been posting today http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...1#post11948281
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Didnt this guy just pop up, or am I under the rock?
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well yes and know, but didnt we all just kinda pop up
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I thought Crazy Ben was a Rep for the company?


Anyhow, there are always 2 sides to every story. Lets wait and here the other side
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there are always 2 side to a story, sadly i dont think we will get to hear the other side
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Well yea, but i meant like, very recently....
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I am getting tired of this. I have paid you guys when i was working with them. You even got paid when i already left the company. I can't keep being responsible for you guys. You know i left. You could have said after you got paid by them back then that you didn't wanted to continue. I gave even extra work and i paid on the spot the money that was owed. So don't start bad mouthing me because you have a problem with them and not me.

I am not staying responsible for every one i hired in the past. You have done no work for my program so also don't start giving it a bad name. I have always paid every one that done anything for me and i paid you two also for your work.

I told you this before. I do not mind helping you out but this is not cool at all. It isnt even my problem.
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I am getting tired of this. I have paid you guys when i was working with them. You even got paid when i already left the company. I can't keep being responsible for you guys. You know i left. You could have said after you got paid by them back then that you didn't wanted to continue. I gave even extra work and i paid on the spot the money that was owed. So don't start bad mouthing me because you have a problem with them and not me.

I am not staying responsible for every one i hired in the past. You have done no work for my program so also don't start giving it a bad name. I have always paid every one that done anything for me and i paid you two also for your work.

I told you this before. I do not mind helping you out but this is not cool at all. It isnt even my problem.
Mate, Kayla has never been paid. She got the daily run-around from Ben saying everything from they will pay her by paypal to we can only pay by egold wtf is up with that??

why not jusy pay her it isn't much money and is only making you look bad.
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I have paid kayla my self as i have you. After i left you guys also have been paid. it even when from my account. After that they would take care of it them self. And you i even gave extra work and i paid you for that. Don't tell me i did not pay you or her.
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I am getting tired of this. I have paid you guys when i was working with them. You even got paid when i already left the company. I can't keep being responsible for you guys. You know i left. You could have said after you got paid by them back then that you didn't wanted to continue. I gave even extra work and i paid on the spot the money that was owed. So don't start bad mouthing me because you have a problem with them and not me.

I am not staying responsible for every one i hired in the past. You have done no work for my program so also don't start giving it a bad name. I have always paid every one that done anything for me and i paid you two also for your work.

I told you this before. I do not mind helping you out but this is not cool at all. It isnt even my problem.
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I should not get blamed and my company get pissed on if i have done nothing wrong.

I hear words as scammer and program sucks. You guys didn't even heard the real story as she left out the part that i did pay her in full and i did pay dark horse in full and gave him extra work and paid him on the spot in full. So what does make me a scammer then.
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