Exploitation, that's why we're going to Hell - GoFuckYourself.com

mika · 08-05-2002, 04:09 AM

Ok ok hehe, I dont believe in existence of Hell. But if there was Hell, most of us would end up there..

Why?
One word. Exploitation.

Nudie pics just isn't enough. What used to be how kids first started entertaining themselves sexually, by reading dad's Playboy and seeing those nude centerfolds, is now gone. What we have are kids browsing galleries that show exploitation of YOUNG females.

Nudity just isn't enough, unless it's barely legal teen (=more or less lolita-type) nudity. Yeah yeah people have fantasies, but the rules of competition have IMHO led to a situation where money is being made by exploring the deepest fantasies of the human mind.

Nude centerfolds is a goddamn niche these days. "What do you do?", "I do centerfold sites", "Oh I see, ehh, what's that, a new niche?"

What is not a niche? Interracial teen getting gangbanged, double drilled and eventually getting cum in her face is not a niche. That's what is just being generally given away for free to everyone.

Seriously I just wrote this when a couple of things came in my mind, such as why most people don't click on nude amateur galleries (unless they're pretty new to the Net and haven't yet found the crave for exploitation they have deep inside or just happen to actually have a fetish for the nnext door girl). So this is not like my theory, just a few thoughts.

Anyways, let's take a look at the recent trends.
What's hot now?
Exploitation in a job interview.
TGP's that are just in a border of being legal
tiny girls that LOOK like 16 getting boned and throw in some beastiality and you're in top pretty soon.
Drunk girls - exploitation while being drunk.
You could go on and on.

The interesting question is, how is supply and demand reacting from the porn producer's point of view? How many REAL LIFE girls get actually exploited when they are shooting these "exploitation-fantasy" clips?

FATPad · 08-05-2002, 04:11 AM

I don't deal in teens, barely-legal, or "young" chicks. I'm not going to hell, I guess. *struts*

mika · 08-05-2002, 04:13 AM

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Originally posted by FATPad
I don't deal in teens, barely-legal, or "young" chicks. I'm not going to hell, I guess. *struts*

I respect that. Does your niche happen to be 28 year old females who are naked?

FATPad · 08-05-2002, 04:19 AM

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Originally posted by mika

I respect that. Does your niche happen to be 28 year old females who are naked?

Sometimes.

Arousal Design · 08-05-2002, 04:19 AM

Its gunna get worse and worse =) Put on your seatbelt.

If you want to promote the more tame porn (hehe tame porn)... then I guess you have to target traffic that is either new to the net, or fairly innocent to what kinda porn has been out there recently (like countries that dont have major net access and laws that were largely against porn or still are).

JimmyReject · 08-05-2002, 06:01 AM

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Interracial teen getting gangbanged, double drilled and eventually getting cum in her face

Sign me up

chodadog · 08-05-2002, 06:05 AM

Boo hoo!

Paul Markham · 08-05-2002, 07:42 AM

Mika
I guess it's time you find a new job.

No one forces these girls to model, they can go and work in Tescos or Lucky's stacking shelves for minimum wage, 40 hours a week, 4 weeks a month. Or come and pose for the same money in six hours doing something they enjoy.

They don't enjoy it? Just look at their eyes. the under 20s don't have the sense to know it's wrong. It's more the 28 year olds forcing themselves to do it to pay the rent or put food in their babies mouth who are the are the more exploited.

Just my opinion, based on 25 years shooting these babes, so not really relevant.

gothweb · 08-05-2002, 07:44 AM

I shoot softcore. I shoot with models ranging fromm 19 to late-twenties. These girls are a mix of the following..

- Professional Glamour models
- Amateur who doesn't need the money, just thinks its fun
- My own girlfriend, whose idea all of this was

Who am I exploiting?

Gary · 08-05-2002, 07:46 AM

Well, part of your point is dead on. I used to easily jerk off to playboy when i was a little younger, now that playboy model would have to be tied up, hanging upside down, and being whipped by 6 and prison guards ans hundreds of prisoners line up to violate her anally. And even that might not do it.

*sigh*

chodadog · 08-05-2002, 07:48 AM

You're a dirty man Gary.

mijoon · 08-05-2002, 07:58 AM

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Originally posted by charly
...No one forces these girls to model, they can go and work in Tescos or Lucky's stacking shelves for minimum wage, 40 hours a week, 4 weeks a month.....

Exactly right ! Very few people have jobs that they REALLY like ,
and many have jobs they REALLY hate.
I guess that means that almost everyone is being exploited .

Gary · 08-05-2002, 07:59 AM

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Originally posted by chodadog
You're a dirty man Gary.

Its true, i am.

sweetcuties · 08-05-2002, 08:04 AM

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Originally posted by mika
Ok ok hehe, I dont believe in existence of Hell. But if there was Hell, most of us would end up there..

Why?
One word. Exploitation.

Nudie pics just isn't enough. What used to be how kids first started entertaining themselves sexually, by reading dad's Playboy and seeing those nude centerfolds, is now gone. What we have are kids browsing galleries that show exploitation of YOUNG females.

Nudity just isn't enough, unless it's barely legal teen (=more or less lolita-type) nudity. Yeah yeah people have fantasies, but the rules of competition have IMHO led to a situation where money is being made by exploring the deepest fantasies of the human mind.

Nude centerfolds is a goddamn niche these days. "What do you do?", "I do centerfold sites", "Oh I see, ehh, what's that, a new niche?"

What is not a niche? Interracial teen getting gangbanged, double drilled and eventually getting cum in her face is not a niche. That's what is just being generally given away for free to everyone.

Seriously I just wrote this when a couple of things came in my mind, such as why most people don't click on nude amateur galleries (unless they're pretty new to the Net and haven't yet found the crave for exploitation they have deep inside or just happen to actually have a fetish for the nnext door girl). So this is not like my theory, just a few thoughts.

Anyways, let's take a look at the recent trends.
What's hot now?
Exploitation in a job interview.
TGP's that are just in a border of being legal
tiny girls that LOOK like 16 getting boned and throw in some beastiality and you're in top pretty soon.
Drunk girls - exploitation while being drunk.
You could go on and on.

The interesting question is, how is supply and demand reacting from the porn producer's point of view? How many REAL LIFE girls get actually exploited when they are shooting these "exploitation-fantasy" clips?

That's funny... your post about a teen interracial gangbang. What about an 18 yr old girl sucking black cock for their very first time and taking a facial and/or swallowing?? I've got it and I'm doing it http://www.mywhiteteens.com Bottom line, EXPLOITATION SELLS!! I'd say most surfers believe it. As a webmaster, don't try to understand it. I try to understand why girls pose for me... they just do, just accept it and keep it moving

mika · 08-05-2002, 08:37 AM

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Originally posted by charly
Mika
I guess it's time you find a new job.

No one forces these girls to model, they can go and work in Tescos or Lucky's stacking shelves for minimum wage, 40 hours a week, 4 weeks a month. Or come and pose for the same money in six hours doing something they enjoy.

They don't enjoy it? Just look at their eyes. the under 20s don't have the sense to know it's wrong. It's more the 28 year olds forcing themselves to do it to pay the rent or put food in their babies mouth who are the are the more exploited.

Just my opinion, based on 25 years shooting these babes, so not really relevant.

Well, my point was really that exploitation as a fantasy seems to sell. I was not accusing any photographers at his very moment.

I was just wondering if people want more and more and producers start supplying even more freakish material than at the moment.

Don't get pissed off so easily

I'm sure every girl likes DP and especially the one in the ass that is 12 inches long.

mika · 08-05-2002, 08:40 AM

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Originally posted by Gary
Well, part of your point is dead on. I used to easily jerk off to playboy when i was a little younger, now that playboy model would have to be tied up, hanging upside down, and being whipped by 6 and prison guards ans hundreds of prisoners line up to violate her anally. And even that might not do it.

*sigh*

Thatis my point.- sort of. I remember receiving my first CD's from Zmaster - the first content I paid for.
They were great - >I mean blowjobs!! Wow. blowjobs sell.

Well, not anymore. Unless there's a job interview exploitation involved LOL

B40 · 08-05-2002, 08:40 AM

What's all this babbling about? Get back to work.

TheFLY · 08-05-2002, 09:03 AM

Exploitation is one side of it... You could also see it as power, control, domination... Chicks have all sorts of wierd fucking fantasies... I don't think I need to describe them here.

Who knows if the model has been raped by her grandfather...? As a photographer you're making "content" or even art -- you're not a psycho therapist or a spiritual guide.

Dawgy · 08-05-2002, 09:08 AM

hell? wow... i hope you all go... id be lonely otherwise...

TheFLY · 08-05-2002, 09:16 AM

Maybe I'll never make it and get stuck in pervatory.

DjSap · 08-05-2002, 09:55 AM

if you are a follower of santaism you go to heaven for exploiting people...

TheDoc · 08-05-2002, 10:12 AM

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Originally posted by TheFLY
art

15 inch cocks terrorizing every hole is pure ART!

Damnit lenz....damn banned words, webmaster board and he blocks out a porn cuss word.. :/

alias · 08-05-2002, 10:15 AM

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Originally posted by Gary
Well, part of your point is dead on. I used to easily jerk off to playboy when i was a little younger, now that playboy model would have to be tied up, hanging upside down, and being whipped by 6 and prison guards ans hundreds of prisoners line up to violate her anally. And even that might not do it.

*sigh*

let party goat get a little action too

kmanrox · 08-05-2002, 10:21 AM

you're going to hell mika, repent for even having those thoughts... that means you have 'premediated' all that shit... i just do it, dont think about it....

pr0 · 08-05-2002, 10:28 AM

Mika...Dude you got some serious mental problems

foe · 08-05-2002, 10:39 AM

porn is art stop whining.

Sly_RJ · 08-05-2002, 10:40 AM

I don't see porn, I see money.

Dude, I think you're in the wrong biz. We're all going to Hell. Who cares? Make life on Earth great... make money, have fun, help some people in need out along the way, and you'll be fine.

mika · 08-05-2002, 10:42 AM

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Originally posted by pr0
Mika...Dude you got some serious mental problems

Amp once said he could fix me in a week. Unfortunately, he must have been busy elsewhere

08-05-2002, 04:09 AM	#1
mika Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 1,561	Exploitation, that's why we're going to Hell Ok ok hehe, I dont believe in existence of Hell. But if there was Hell, most of us would end up there.. Why? One word. Exploitation. Nudie pics just isn't enough. What used to be how kids first started entertaining themselves sexually, by reading dad's Playboy and seeing those nude centerfolds, is now gone. What we have are kids browsing galleries that show exploitation of YOUNG females. Nudity just isn't enough, unless it's barely legal teen (=more or less lolita-type) nudity. Yeah yeah people have fantasies, but the rules of competition have IMHO led to a situation where money is being made by exploring the deepest fantasies of the human mind. Nude centerfolds is a goddamn niche these days. "What do you do?", "I do centerfold sites", "Oh I see, ehh, what's that, a new niche?" What is not a niche? Interracial teen getting gangbanged, double drilled and eventually getting cum in her face is not a niche. That's what is just being generally given away for free to everyone. Seriously I just wrote this when a couple of things came in my mind, such as why most people don't click on nude amateur galleries (unless they're pretty new to the Net and haven't yet found the crave for exploitation they have deep inside or just happen to actually have a fetish for the nnext door girl). So this is not like my theory, just a few thoughts. Anyways, let's take a look at the recent trends. What's hot now? Exploitation in a job interview. TGP's that are just in a border of being legal tiny girls that LOOK like 16 getting boned and throw in some beastiality and you're in top pretty soon. Drunk girls - exploitation while being drunk. You could go on and on. The interesting question is, how is supply and demand reacting from the porn producer's point of view? How many REAL LIFE girls get actually exploited when they are shooting these "exploitation-fantasy" clips?

08-05-2002, 04:19 AM	#5
Arousal Design Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Connecticut. Posts: 1,358	Its gunna get worse and worse =) Put on your seatbelt. If you want to promote the more tame porn (hehe tame porn)... then I guess you have to target traffic that is either new to the net, or fairly innocent to what kinda porn has been out there recently (like countries that dont have major net access and laws that were largely against porn or still are). __________________ Make Major Bank With Major Personality - NaughtyBank! Featuring NaughtyAllie and NaughtyJulie!

08-05-2002, 07:42 AM	#8
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Mika I guess it's time you find a new job. No one forces these girls to model, they can go and work in Tescos or Lucky's stacking shelves for minimum wage, 40 hours a week, 4 weeks a month. Or come and pose for the same money in six hours doing something they enjoy. They don't enjoy it? Just look at their eyes. the under 20s don't have the sense to know it's wrong. It's more the 28 year olds forcing themselves to do it to pay the rent or put food in their babies mouth who are the are the more exploited. Just my opinion, based on 25 years shooting these babes, so not really relevant. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

08-05-2002, 07:44 AM	#9
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	I shoot softcore. I shoot with models ranging fromm 19 to late-twenties. These girls are a mix of the following.. - Professional Glamour models - Amateur who doesn't need the money, just thinks its fun - My own girlfriend, whose idea all of this was Who am I exploiting? __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

08-05-2002, 07:46 AM	#10
Gary Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kimmykims couch Posts: 6,110	Well, part of your point is dead on. I used to easily jerk off to playboy when i was a little younger, now that playboy model would have to be tied up, hanging upside down, and being whipped by 6 and prison guards ans hundreds of prisoners line up to violate her anally. And even that might not do it. sigh __________________ Up to 35$ per join...!

08-05-2002, 04:11 AM	#2
FATPad Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,693	I don't deal in teens, barely-legal, or "young" chicks. I'm not going to hell, I guess. struts

08-05-2002, 06:05 AM	#7
chodadog Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 9,736	Boo hoo!

08-05-2002, 07:48 AM	#11
chodadog Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 9,736	You're a dirty man Gary.

08-05-2002, 08:40 AM	#17
B40 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 7,020	What's all this babbling about? Get back to work. __________________

08-05-2002, 09:03 AM	#18
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	Exploitation is one side of it... You could also see it as power, control, domination... Chicks have all sorts of wierd fucking fantasies... I don't think I need to describe them here. Who knows if the model has been raped by her grandfather...? As a photographer you're making "content" or even art -- you're not a psycho therapist or a spiritual guide.

08-05-2002, 09:08 AM	#19
Dawgy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 5,856	hell? wow... i hope you all go... id be lonely otherwise... __________________ the revolution is coming.

08-05-2002, 09:16 AM	#20
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	Maybe I'll never make it and get stuck in pervatory.

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DjSap Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,869	if you are a follower of santaism you go to heaven for exploiting people...

08-05-2002, 10:21 AM	#24
kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,292	you're going to hell mika, repent for even having those thoughts... that means you have 'premediated' all that shit... i just do it, dont think about it.... __________________ Crypto HODLr Crypto mining Angel investor

08-05-2002, 10:28 AM	#25
pr0 rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ Posts: 23,088	Mika...Dude you got some serious mental problems Last edited by pr0; 08-05-2002 at 10:29 AM..

08-05-2002, 10:39 AM	#26
foe Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: CT Posts: 5,246	porn is art stop whining.

08-05-2002, 10:40 AM	#27
Sly_RJ Live Hard - Die Hard Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ready to leave... Posts: 17,042	I don't see porn, I see money. Dude, I think you're in the wrong biz. We're all going to Hell. Who cares? Make life on Earth great... make money, have fun, help some people in need out along the way, and you'll be fine.