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mika 08-05-2002 04:09 AM

Exploitation, that's why we're going to Hell
 
Ok ok hehe, I dont believe in existence of Hell. But if there was Hell, most of us would end up there..

Why?
One word. Exploitation.

Nudie pics just isn't enough. What used to be how kids first started entertaining themselves sexually, by reading dad's Playboy and seeing those nude centerfolds, is now gone. What we have are kids browsing galleries that show exploitation of YOUNG females.

Nudity just isn't enough, unless it's barely legal teen (=more or less lolita-type) nudity. Yeah yeah people have fantasies, but the rules of competition have IMHO led to a situation where money is being made by exploring the deepest fantasies of the human mind.

Nude centerfolds is a goddamn niche these days. "What do you do?", "I do centerfold sites", "Oh I see, ehh, what's that, a new niche?"

What is not a niche? Interracial teen getting gangbanged, double drilled and eventually getting cum in her face is not a niche. That's what is just being generally given away for free to everyone.

Seriously I just wrote this when a couple of things came in my mind, such as why most people don't click on nude amateur galleries (unless they're pretty new to the Net and haven't yet found the crave for exploitation they have deep inside or just happen to actually have a fetish for the nnext door girl). So this is not like my theory, just a few thoughts.

Anyways, let's take a look at the recent trends.
What's hot now?
Exploitation in a job interview.
TGP's that are just in a border of being legal
tiny girls that LOOK like 16 getting boned and throw in some beastiality and you're in top pretty soon.
Drunk girls - exploitation while being drunk.
You could go on and on.

The interesting question is, how is supply and demand reacting from the porn producer's point of view? How many REAL LIFE girls get actually exploited when they are shooting these "exploitation-fantasy" clips?

FATPad 08-05-2002 04:11 AM

I don't deal in teens, barely-legal, or "young" chicks. I'm not going to hell, I guess. *struts*

mika 08-05-2002 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FATPad
I don't deal in teens, barely-legal, or "young" chicks. I'm not going to hell, I guess. *struts*
I respect that. Does your niche happen to be 28 year old females who are naked?

FATPad 08-05-2002 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mika


I respect that. Does your niche happen to be 28 year old females who are naked?

Sometimes.

Arousal Design 08-05-2002 04:19 AM

Its gunna get worse and worse =) Put on your seatbelt.

If you want to promote the more tame porn (hehe tame porn)... then I guess you have to target traffic that is either new to the net, or fairly innocent to what kinda porn has been out there recently (like countries that dont have major net access and laws that were largely against porn or still are).

JimmyReject 08-05-2002 06:01 AM

Quote:

Interracial teen getting gangbanged, double drilled and eventually getting cum in her face
Sign me up :thumbsup

chodadog 08-05-2002 06:05 AM

Boo hoo!

Paul Markham 08-05-2002 07:42 AM

Mika
I guess it's time you find a new job.

No one forces these girls to model, they can go and work in Tescos or Lucky's stacking shelves for minimum wage, 40 hours a week, 4 weeks a month. Or come and pose for the same money in six hours doing something they enjoy.

They don't enjoy it? Just look at their eyes. the under 20s don't have the sense to know it's wrong. It's more the 28 year olds forcing themselves to do it to pay the rent or put food in their babies mouth who are the are the more exploited.

Just my opinion, based on 25 years shooting these babes, so not really relevant.

gothweb 08-05-2002 07:44 AM

I shoot softcore. I shoot with models ranging fromm 19 to late-twenties. These girls are a mix of the following..

- Professional Glamour models
- Amateur who doesn't need the money, just thinks its fun
- My own girlfriend, whose idea all of this was

Who am I exploiting?

Gary 08-05-2002 07:46 AM

Well, part of your point is dead on. I used to easily jerk off to playboy when i was a little younger, now that playboy model would have to be tied up, hanging upside down, and being whipped by 6 and prison guards ans hundreds of prisoners line up to violate her anally. And even that might not do it.

*sigh*

chodadog 08-05-2002 07:48 AM

You're a dirty man Gary.

mijoon 08-05-2002 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
...No one forces these girls to model, they can go and work in Tescos or Lucky's stacking shelves for minimum wage, 40 hours a week, 4 weeks a month.....
Exactly right ! Very few people have jobs that they REALLY like ,
and many have jobs they REALLY hate.
I guess that means that almost everyone is being exploited .

Gary 08-05-2002 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by chodadog
You're a dirty man Gary.
Its true, i am.

sweetcuties 08-05-2002 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mika
Ok ok hehe, I dont believe in existence of Hell. But if there was Hell, most of us would end up there..

Why?
One word. Exploitation.

Nudie pics just isn't enough. What used to be how kids first started entertaining themselves sexually, by reading dad's Playboy and seeing those nude centerfolds, is now gone. What we have are kids browsing galleries that show exploitation of YOUNG females.

Nudity just isn't enough, unless it's barely legal teen (=more or less lolita-type) nudity. Yeah yeah people have fantasies, but the rules of competition have IMHO led to a situation where money is being made by exploring the deepest fantasies of the human mind.

Nude centerfolds is a goddamn niche these days. "What do you do?", "I do centerfold sites", "Oh I see, ehh, what's that, a new niche?"

What is not a niche? Interracial teen getting gangbanged, double drilled and eventually getting cum in her face is not a niche. That's what is just being generally given away for free to everyone.

Seriously I just wrote this when a couple of things came in my mind, such as why most people don't click on nude amateur galleries (unless they're pretty new to the Net and haven't yet found the crave for exploitation they have deep inside or just happen to actually have a fetish for the nnext door girl). So this is not like my theory, just a few thoughts.

Anyways, let's take a look at the recent trends.
What's hot now?
Exploitation in a job interview.
TGP's that are just in a border of being legal
tiny girls that LOOK like 16 getting boned and throw in some beastiality and you're in top pretty soon.
Drunk girls - exploitation while being drunk.
You could go on and on.

The interesting question is, how is supply and demand reacting from the porn producer's point of view? How many REAL LIFE girls get actually exploited when they are shooting these "exploitation-fantasy" clips?

That's funny... your post about a teen interracial gangbang. What about an 18 yr old girl sucking black cock for their very first time and taking a facial and/or swallowing?? I've got it and I'm doing it http://www.mywhiteteens.com Bottom line, EXPLOITATION SELLS!! I'd say most surfers believe it. As a webmaster, don't try to understand it. I try to understand why girls pose for me... they just do, just accept it and keep it moving :thumbsup

mika 08-05-2002 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
Mika
I guess it's time you find a new job.

No one forces these girls to model, they can go and work in Tescos or Lucky's stacking shelves for minimum wage, 40 hours a week, 4 weeks a month. Or come and pose for the same money in six hours doing something they enjoy.

They don't enjoy it? Just look at their eyes. the under 20s don't have the sense to know it's wrong. It's more the 28 year olds forcing themselves to do it to pay the rent or put food in their babies mouth who are the are the more exploited.

Just my opinion, based on 25 years shooting these babes, so not really relevant.

Well, my point was really that exploitation as a fantasy seems to sell. I was not accusing any photographers at his very moment.

I was just wondering if people want more and more and producers start supplying even more freakish material than at the moment.

Don't get pissed off so easily :)

I'm sure every girl likes DP and especially the one in the ass that is 12 inches long.

mika 08-05-2002 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gary
Well, part of your point is dead on. I used to easily jerk off to playboy when i was a little younger, now that playboy model would have to be tied up, hanging upside down, and being whipped by 6 and prison guards ans hundreds of prisoners line up to violate her anally. And even that might not do it.

*sigh*

Thatis my point.- sort of. I remember receiving my first CD's from Zmaster - the first content I paid for.
They were great - >I mean blowjobs!! Wow. blowjobs sell.

Well, not anymore. Unless there's a job interview exploitation involved LOL

B40 08-05-2002 08:40 AM

What's all this babbling about? Get back to work.

TheFLY 08-05-2002 09:03 AM

Exploitation is one side of it... You could also see it as power, control, domination... Chicks have all sorts of wierd fucking fantasies... I don't think I need to describe them here.

Who knows if the model has been raped by her grandfather...? As a photographer you're making "content" or even art -- you're not a psycho therapist or a spiritual guide.

Dawgy 08-05-2002 09:08 AM

hell? wow... i hope you all go... id be lonely otherwise...

TheFLY 08-05-2002 09:16 AM

Maybe I'll never make it and get stuck in pervatory.

DjSap 08-05-2002 09:55 AM

if you are a follower of santaism you go to heaven for exploiting people...

TheDoc 08-05-2002 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY
art
15 inch cocks terrorizing every hole is pure ART! :)

Damnit lenz....damn banned words, webmaster board and he blocks out a porn cuss word.. :/

alias 08-05-2002 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gary
Well, part of your point is dead on. I used to easily jerk off to playboy when i was a little younger, now that playboy model would have to be tied up, hanging upside down, and being whipped by 6 and prison guards ans hundreds of prisoners line up to violate her anally. And even that might not do it.

*sigh*

let party goat get a little action too

kmanrox 08-05-2002 10:21 AM

you're going to hell mika, repent for even having those thoughts... that means you have 'premediated' all that shit... i just do it, dont think about it....

pr0 08-05-2002 10:28 AM

Mika...Dude you got some serious mental problems

foe 08-05-2002 10:39 AM

porn is art stop whining.

Sly_RJ 08-05-2002 10:40 AM

I don't see porn, I see money.

Dude, I think you're in the wrong biz. We're all going to Hell. Who cares? Make life on Earth great... make money, have fun, help some people in need out along the way, and you'll be fine.

mika 08-05-2002 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pr0
Mika...Dude you got some serious mental problems
Amp once said he could fix me in a week. Unfortunately, he must have been busy elsewhere


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