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Old 02-16-2007, 11:01 AM   #1
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Who makes the best harddrives?

Failsafe stuff, highest quality
if the CIA was using normal hard drives to store data - from which manufacturer would they be?

you get the idea ;)
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Old 02-16-2007, 11:25 AM   #2
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Every HDD may fail and will fail, it's only the fortune if it will fail today or someone in the next 10 years. HDD isn't safe product and was never designed as the safe product!

If you need safe HDD use RAID 1 mirroring with two normal HDDs and backup it daily on the some other medium as is tape/FTP/DVD, whis will be located in the some other area (so it will be safe again the fire or thief, if the main area will fail), than your normal PC or server.

This is safe solution which using every big company.

Remember, that only regular backuping may save your ass. You may not use RAID 1, but If you will not backup it may take 1 day or 5 years, but be sure, that at this time will at least one your HDD fail. Backuping is the main part of this "safe plan".
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as for me - seagate are best.

most problematic - ibm and maxtor
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Old 02-16-2007, 11:48 AM   #4
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thx for the comment jaromir
i know this is the way to go... i just wanna reduce my risk by staying away from companies whose hds tend to blow more often then others
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Old 02-16-2007, 11:51 AM   #5
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Old 02-16-2007, 11:57 AM   #6
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as for me - seagate are best.

most problematic - ibm and maxtor

good to know the bad examples as well
thx for that
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Old 02-16-2007, 12:04 PM   #7
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Old 02-16-2007, 12:07 PM   #8
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Seagate and Western Digital
Maxtor sucks (they had a 160GB that was a disaster 30% failed) but should get better now when Seagate owns it
best is to get a raid cage where you can run Raid 1 plus hotspare
(3 drives being exact copies if one fails you just swap it without any losed data same if you should have two drives fail you are still safe if all 3 fails you lose it )
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Old 02-16-2007, 01:14 PM   #11
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thx for the comment jaromir
i know this is the way to go... i just wanna reduce my risk by staying away from companies whose hds tend to blow more often then others
ok, but do backups
without backups you will be out of the biz after 1 or two years
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Old 02-16-2007, 01:25 PM   #12
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Well now I have Samsung... good thing I note!
before it I had seagate.... respect that HDD! best one!
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Old 02-16-2007, 01:34 PM   #13
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Failsafe stuff, highest quality
if the CIA was using normal hard drives to store data - from which manufacturer would they be?

you get the idea ;)
Best would be a 4 inch tall scsi (twice the height of a regular hard drive, those are the most reliable. but really I would focus more on not overloading the server. That's what kills hard drives, heat and too much activity at one time.
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Old 02-16-2007, 01:41 PM   #14
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Best would be a 4 inch tall scsi (twice the height of a regular hard drive, those are the most reliable. but really I would focus more on not overloading the server. That's what kills hard drives, heat and too much activity at one time.
now the more and more servers (blade servers) using 2,5" HDDs with 10.000 RPMs and it working fine

I will soon construct my new server, probably i will use WD Raptor with 10.000 and maybe one backup HDD
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Old 02-16-2007, 01:55 PM   #16
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Im a WD fan, but, I have Seagate drives in the last 3 computers I built.

Maxtor is the WORST!
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Old 02-16-2007, 02:09 PM   #17
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Old 02-16-2007, 02:16 PM   #18
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now the more and more servers (blade servers) using 2,5" HDDs with 10.000 RPMs and it working fine

I will soon construct my new server, probably i will use WD Raptor with 10.000 and maybe one backup HDD
yep, we use that for dedicated servers: http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16822136012
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Old 02-16-2007, 02:26 PM   #19
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I think Seagate produces the best harddrives at the moment. WD is good too
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Old 02-16-2007, 02:45 PM   #20
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i see ebay is FLOODED with WD
which kinda made me think they suck
but feedback so far seems to be positive
good to know
glad i made that thread
keep it coming if you have comments
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Old 02-16-2007, 02:56 PM   #21
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I have always used WDs with no problems. Bought two Seagate Caviar 120s on sale a couple of years ago and both were very problematic. I ended up giving them away to a friend and I will never buy another. But people here seem to do okay with them so who knows?
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I have always used WDs with no problems. Bought two Seagate Caviar 120s on sale a couple of years ago and both were very problematic. I ended up giving them away to a friend and I will never buy another. But people here seem to do okay with them so who knows?
you give problematic hds to a friend
thats not nice ;)
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Never once had a problem with maxtor, had tons of problems with WD. </personal experience>
It all depends on the series/model of the hd. All top brands (Samsung, WD, Maxtor, Seagate,..) have had miserable series of HDs and good ones...</2cents>
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what kind of problem?
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wd's gone downhill large in the past couple years

seagate.
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all hard drives will fail.

"right now" we generally are seeing more maxtor failures than others, but that doesn't mean a whole lot really. We don't have enough failures in the datacenter on a daily/monthly basis or whatnot to get decent statistical distributions. That said, we generally average around 1 hard drive failure a day that we're swapping out (out of what we estimate to be over 8,000 installed hard drives).

I'm a big fan of Seagate, and they come with a 5 year warranty. But really, any modern hard drive will likely give you the same reliability. Basically, it seems to be luck followed very far by access patterns and evironment which will dictate a drive failure.
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Had a client that had several hundred Maxtors fail out of several thousand. Fucking ruined productivity. Stay away from them like a scab covered prostitute.
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I had a WD physically fail.. I had a Maxtor that Windows corrupted, the hdd itself may or may not have been part of it.

Last couple drives have been Seagates, 1 of them IDE and the newest a SATA2.
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thread turnout how i wanted
thx guys
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I have a RAID1+0 array with 4 x 300Gb Seagata SATA and a RAID0 array with 2 x 320Gb WD SATA drives. The first is my main array, the second is used for backup archives and scratch data only (since it's not failsafe). As a final catch I do a reasonably frequent file level backup to a removable 500Gb Seagata SATA drive, which spends most of the time stored in another room.

At the very least, you need to do regular backups. Even better is adding redundancy with RAID, so your availability is not compromised. Don't forget you still need to back up even when you have RAID.
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I've had 3 maxtors fail on me and 1 Western Digital.
Hitachi seems to be running smooth.

DON'T buy Maxtors, Western Digitals are quite reliable (it was 5 years before it snuffed it so I can't complain)
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seagate = 5 year warranty
maxtor and WD = 1 to 3 years

ive found that most bad hard drives die within the first hour. i buy 8-10 drives a month, last month i had a 250 and a 500 go bad. the 250 was halfway into a windows install and the 500 was an hour after putting it in an external case and starting to copy some content over.
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i tried every single brand out there - all failed sooner or later

keep them cool and use raid 1 or 5 - that seems to be the best way
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Most companies makes harddrives for both home and server usage, if you want a reliable drive buy one that is made for 24/7 server usage, these drives usually have a longer warranty but may cost a bit more.

Brandwise I would stay away from Maxtor and IBM.
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seagate and western digital.
WD's enterprise drives also have 5 years on them.

If you're not buying enterprise edition drives then don't even bother.
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I have both had two maxtor drives and one western digital crash on me.

I have not yet managed to crash a seagate drive.
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I have both had two maxtor drives and one western digital crash on me.

I have not yet managed to crash a seagate drive.
seagate is good. they purchased maxtor a while back though. Not sure if that means maxtor's will get better or seagate will get worse.
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Lacie recently started using Samsung disks.
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