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  • Trax
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    • Aug 2001
    • 14486
    #1

    Who makes the best harddrives?

    Failsafe stuff, highest quality
    if the CIA was using normal hard drives to store data - from which manufacturer would they be?

    you get the idea ;)
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    • jaromir
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      • May 2003
      • 556
      #2
      Every HDD may fail and will fail, it's only the fortune if it will fail today or someone in the next 10 years. HDD isn't safe product and was never designed as the safe product!

      If you need safe HDD use RAID 1 mirroring with two normal HDDs and backup it daily on the some other medium as is tape/FTP/DVD, whis will be located in the some other area (so it will be safe again the fire or thief, if the main area will fail), than your normal PC or server.

      This is safe solution which using every big company.

      Remember, that only regular backuping may save your ass. You may not use RAID 1, but If you will not backup it may take 1 day or 5 years, but be sure, that at this time will at least one your HDD fail. Backuping is the main part of this "safe plan".
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        • tolik
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          • Jun 2001
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          #3
          as for me - seagate are best.

          most problematic - ibm and maxtor
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            • Trax
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              • Aug 2001
              • 14486
              #4
              thx for the comment jaromir
              i know this is the way to go... i just wanna reduce my risk by staying away from companies whose hds tend to blow more often then others

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                • tranza
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                  • Jun 2003
                  • 57559
                  #5
                  I like Seagate too.
                  I'm just a newbie.

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                    • Trax
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                      • Aug 2001
                      • 14486
                      #6
                      Originally posted by tolik
                      as for me - seagate are best.

                      most problematic - ibm and maxtor

                      good to know the bad examples as well
                      thx for that

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                        • ztik
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                          • Aug 2001
                          • 5196
                          #7
                          Another for seagate
                          .

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                            • Bigfuck
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                              • Mar 2004
                              • 4961
                              #8
                              Seagate and Western Digital
                              Maxtor sucks (they had a 160GB that was a disaster 30% failed) but should get better now when Seagate owns it
                              best is to get a raid cage where you can run Raid 1 plus hotspare
                              (3 drives being exact copies if one fails you just swap it without any losed data same if you should have two drives fail you are still safe if all 3 fails you lose it )

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                                • Barefootsies
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                                    • the alchemist
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                                      • Dec 2004
                                      • 3271
                                      #10
                                      Western Digital for sure
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                                        • jaromir
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                                          • May 2003
                                          • 556
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Trax
                                          thx for the comment jaromir
                                          i know this is the way to go... i just wanna reduce my risk by staying away from companies whose hds tend to blow more often then others
                                          ok, but do backups
                                          without backups you will be out of the biz after 1 or two years
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                                            • Galina Los
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                                              • Sep 2005
                                              • 393
                                              #12
                                              Well now I have Samsung... good thing I note!
                                              before it I had seagate.... respect that HDD! best one!
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                                                • chaze
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                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                  • 9774
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Trax
                                                  Failsafe stuff, highest quality
                                                  if the CIA was using normal hard drives to store data - from which manufacturer would they be?

                                                  you get the idea ;)
                                                  Best would be a 4 inch tall scsi (twice the height of a regular hard drive, those are the most reliable. but really I would focus more on not overloading the server. That's what kills hard drives, heat and too much activity at one time.
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                                                    • jaromir
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                                                      • May 2003
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                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by chaze
                                                      Best would be a 4 inch tall scsi (twice the height of a regular hard drive, those are the most reliable. but really I would focus more on not overloading the server. That's what kills hard drives, heat and too much activity at one time.
                                                      now the more and more servers (blade servers) using 2,5" HDDs with 10.000 RPMs and it working fine

                                                      I will soon construct my new server, probably i will use WD Raptor with 10.000 and maybe one backup HDD
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                                                        • Wilkinson
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                                                          • Apr 2006
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                                                          #15
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                                                            • The Dawg
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                                                              • Apr 2002
                                                              • 2438
                                                              #16
                                                              Im a WD fan, but, I have Seagate drives in the last 3 computers I built.

                                                              Maxtor is the WORST!

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                                                                • avalanche
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                                                                  • Feb 2005
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  Seagate!!!!
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                                                                    • chaze
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                                                                      • Aug 2002
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by jaromir
                                                                      now the more and more servers (blade servers) using 2,5" HDDs with 10.000 RPMs and it working fine

                                                                      I will soon construct my new server, probably i will use WD Raptor with 10.000 and maybe one backup HDD
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                                                                        • lorine
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                                                                          • Jan 2007
                                                                          • 994
                                                                          #19
                                                                          I think Seagate produces the best harddrives at the moment. WD is good too
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                                                                            • Trax
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                                                                              • Aug 2001
                                                                              • 14486
                                                                              #20
                                                                              i see ebay is FLOODED with WD
                                                                              which kinda made me think they suck
                                                                              but feedback so far seems to be positive
                                                                              good to know
                                                                              glad i made that thread
                                                                              keep it coming if you have comments

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                                                                                • Himuro
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                                                                                  • Nov 2006
                                                                                  • 934
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  my vote goes to seagate

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                                                                                    • StuBradley
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                                                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                                                      • 2625
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      I have always used WDs with no problems. Bought two Seagate Caviar 120s on sale a couple of years ago and both were very problematic. I ended up giving them away to a friend and I will never buy another. But people here seem to do okay with them so who knows?

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                                                                                        • Trax
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                                                                                          • Aug 2001
                                                                                          • 14486
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by StuBradley
                                                                                          I have always used WDs with no problems. Bought two Seagate Caviar 120s on sale a couple of years ago and both were very problematic. I ended up giving them away to a friend and I will never buy another. But people here seem to do okay with them so who knows?
                                                                                          you give problematic hds to a friend
                                                                                          thats not nice ;)

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                                                                                            • u-Bob
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                                                                                              • Jul 2005
                                                                                              • 33063
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Never once had a problem with maxtor, had tons of problems with WD. </personal experience>
                                                                                              It all depends on the series/model of the hd. All top brands (Samsung, WD, Maxtor, Seagate,..) have had miserable series of HDs and good ones...</2cents>

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                                                                                                • Trax
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                                                                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                                                                  • 14486
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by u-Bob
                                                                                                  had tons of problems with WD. </personal experience>
                                                                                                  what kind of problem?

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                                                                                                    • xroach
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                                                                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                                                                      • 963
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      wd's gone downhill large in the past couple years

                                                                                                      seagate.

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                                                                                                        • gecko
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                                                                                                          • Jun 2002
                                                                                                          • 21846
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Seagates are the only ones I buy
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                                                                                                            • Phil21
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                                                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                                                              • 993
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              all hard drives will fail.

                                                                                                              "right now" we generally are seeing more maxtor failures than others, but that doesn't mean a whole lot really. We don't have enough failures in the datacenter on a daily/monthly basis or whatnot to get decent statistical distributions. That said, we generally average around 1 hard drive failure a day that we're swapping out (out of what we estimate to be over 8,000 installed hard drives).

                                                                                                              I'm a big fan of Seagate, and they come with a 5 year warranty. But really, any modern hard drive will likely give you the same reliability. Basically, it seems to be luck followed very far by access patterns and evironment which will dictate a drive failure.
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                                                                                                                • Steve Awesome
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                                                                                                                  • Jan 2007
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Had a client that had several hundred Maxtors fail out of several thousand. Fucking ruined productivity. Stay away from them like a scab covered prostitute.

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                                                                                                                    • Andiz
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                                                                                                                      • Feb 2006
                                                                                                                      • 2594
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Another happy Seagate customer here

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                                                                                                                        • Star 69
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                                                                                                                          • Nov 2005
                                                                                                                          • 8602
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Western Digital and Segate the best
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                                                                                                                            • ungratefulninja
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                                                                                                                              • Apr 2006
                                                                                                                              • 682
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              I had a WD physically fail.. I had a Maxtor that Windows corrupted, the hdd itself may or may not have been part of it.

                                                                                                                              Last couple drives have been Seagates, 1 of them IDE and the newest a SATA2.

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                                                                                                                                • Trax
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                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                                  • 14486
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  thread turnout how i wanted
                                                                                                                                  thx guys
                                                                                                                                  i now know what to buy

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                                                                                                                                    • dready
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                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                      • 5247
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      The Western Digital Enterprise SATA drives seem pretty reliable.
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                                                                                                                                        • rowan
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                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                          • 17393
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          I have a RAID1+0 array with 4 x 300Gb Seagata SATA and a RAID0 array with 2 x 320Gb WD SATA drives. The first is my main array, the second is used for backup archives and scratch data only (since it's not failsafe). As a final catch I do a reasonably frequent file level backup to a removable 500Gb Seagata SATA drive, which spends most of the time stored in another room.

                                                                                                                                          At the very least, you need to do regular backups. Even better is adding redundancy with RAID, so your availability is not compromised. Don't forget you still need to back up even when you have RAID.

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                                                                                                                                            • Project-Shadow
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                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                              • 7340
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              I've had 3 maxtors fail on me and 1 Western Digital.
                                                                                                                                              Hitachi seems to be running smooth.

                                                                                                                                              DON'T buy Maxtors, Western Digitals are quite reliable (it was 5 years before it snuffed it so I can't complain)

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                                                                                                                                                • BitAudioVideo
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                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2005
                                                                                                                                                  • 1246
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  seagate = 5 year warranty
                                                                                                                                                  maxtor and WD = 1 to 3 years

                                                                                                                                                  ive found that most bad hard drives die within the first hour. i buy 8-10 drives a month, last month i had a 250 and a 500 go bad. the 250 was halfway into a windows install and the 500 was an hour after putting it in an external case and starting to copy some content over.
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                                                                                                                                                    • MaDalton
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                                                                                                                                                      i tried every single brand out there - all failed sooner or later

                                                                                                                                                      keep them cool and use raid 1 or 5 - that seems to be the best way
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                                                                                                                                                        • Fucked Beyond Repair
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                                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                                          • 565
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Most companies makes harddrives for both home and server usage, if you want a reliable drive buy one that is made for 24/7 server usage, these drives usually have a longer warranty but may cost a bit more.

                                                                                                                                                          Brandwise I would stay away from Maxtor and IBM.

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                                                                                                                                                            • L-Pink
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                                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2005
                                                                                                                                                              • 39151
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Lacie = Maxtor (keep in mind)

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                                                                                                                                                                • Sore
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Sep 2006
                                                                                                                                                                  • 122
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                                                                                                                                                                  seagate and western digital.
                                                                                                                                                                  WD's enterprise drives also have 5 years on them.

                                                                                                                                                                  If you're not buying enterprise edition drives then don't even bother.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • darling2
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2006
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                                                                                                                                                                      I have both had two maxtor drives and one western digital crash on me.

                                                                                                                                                                      I have not yet managed to crash a seagate drive.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Sore
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Sep 2006
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                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by darling2
                                                                                                                                                                          I have both had two maxtor drives and one western digital crash on me.

                                                                                                                                                                          I have not yet managed to crash a seagate drive.
                                                                                                                                                                          seagate is good. they purchased maxtor a while back though. Not sure if that means maxtor's will get better or seagate will get worse.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • Juicy D. Links
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                                              • 122992
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                                                                                                                                                                              Seagates , and Fujitsu's in the laptops

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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2006
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                                                                                                                                                                                  Apple Harddrives

                                                                                                                                                                                  Apple's harddrives are built like tanks, just watch out for the sos leaking out .... ^^
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • _Rush_
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2006
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                                                                                                                                                                                      Western Digital, hands down.
                                                                                                                                                                                      No sig.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • u-Bob
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 33063
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                                                                                                                                                          Lacie = Maxtor (keep in mind)
                                                                                                                                                                                          Lacie recently started using Samsung disks.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • u-Bob
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 33063
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Trax
                                                                                                                                                                                              what kind of problem?
                                                                                                                                                                                              dead disks...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • L-Pink
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 39151
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by u-Bob
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Lacie recently started using Samsung disks.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  thanks

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