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ServerGenius · 02-14-2007, 03:18 AM

drugs are bad, lay of the smack

SleazyDream · 02-14-2007, 03:21 AM

here is some basic math.

lets say worst case zango is costing me 5%

i have 7 years of renewals with AFF. they represent more than 2/3 of my month to month volume, and more like 4/5. zango would only effect 5% of my NEW volume - or less than 1% of my total.

if i bail on aff i miss my goals and don't make my bonus. the bonus is on the new sales AND the renewals. I make more even with zango fucking me then if I bailed on aff. so I can't bail.

why the fuck would i bail on that income? I'm not a moron. If i had new sales only maybe i would bail - but i'm locked in. and so are most other old sites - you don't see ANY of them bailing on AFF - NONE. NOT ONE - and it's for the same reason.

so why the fuck would i bail on aff for the zango thing - basic math. that's why.

I and MANY MANY MANY other sites CAN'T get out without losing HUGE money.

i have NEVER supported zango and have given aff shit for using them but it's not my company and they make their own decisions.

and I still think your a total fucking jealous moron will76.

go fuck yourself - you're a worthless looser.

SleazyDream · 02-14-2007, 03:23 AM

answer my question will76 - i answered yours

how much money do you make from zango for keeping to bring this up on here?

SleazyDream · 02-14-2007, 03:28 AM

i have one more question will76 - what's your name and what sites do you run?

please answer

bigalownz · 02-14-2007, 03:31 AM

i dont know you so i cant say

BUT if you going to be like that

yes i do ....lol

SleazyDream · 02-14-2007, 03:33 AM

will76 - i answered your questions - why won't you answer mine?

SleazyDream · 02-14-2007, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

will76 - i answered your questions - why won't you answer mine?

still waiting

grumpy · 02-14-2007, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

i have always run my business based on how a program treats me personally - not on how it treats other people.

thats what a nsb'r used to say in the war.

mrgica · 02-14-2007, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

curious, why do you hate me?

is it cause I'm gerogous?

is it cause I live the life you could only dream of?

Is it cause I'm smarter than you?

Is it cause my dick gets sucked more than yours?

or is is just cause? just cause you know - deep down - that I'm better than you and there's nothing you can do about it - NOTHING

buuuuuhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

It is sad that you need to come to a message board online to get attention.

Klen · 02-14-2007, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mrgica

It is sad that you need to come to a message board online to get attention.

Well offline world is hard world.Hard to get attention unless your job is comedian hehe

goldmine · 02-14-2007, 08:13 AM

i dont hate you

JayDeeZee · 02-14-2007, 08:21 AM

I don't hate you Sleazy, I've never met you.

I'll decide if I hate you after I meet you in Iceland.

BlackCrayon · 02-14-2007, 08:49 AM

no hate but im sure the reason you gety shit from so many is due to the massive amount of arrogance you display on the board.

the alchemist · 02-14-2007, 08:52 AM

Yawns...

Jman · 02-14-2007, 09:20 AM

I don't hate you I just envy your gerogousity ;-)

Jman · 02-14-2007, 09:27 AM

Honestly Sleazy brings the best out of GFYer's How can anyone really hate someone that brins such entertainment.

Hope the smoke meat was good bro ;-)

Clean_Franck · 02-14-2007, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace

how can I hate you if I have never met you?

i bet you love osama bin laden dont you.

nice one idiot

sharp · 02-14-2007, 09:30 AM

I'll stay out of this one.

jayeff · 02-14-2007, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

I'm not a moron.

If people believe you are, blame the board persona you chose to create. As to the superficial logic of the rest of that post, it doesn't bear too much examination.

Regardless of the reality that for the reasons you describe, in the short term this episode may not have cost sponsors using Zango very much money, AFF and cams.com in particular have gone from being almost universally admired to being despised or at best, tolerated. Which means that over the next 5-10 years, as sites like yours fade from the scene, they will increasingly feel the impact.

There are two possibilities. One is that the people running these programs are nowhere near as smart as we believe and they simply didn't anticipate the reaction. That isn't too likely in view of Lars' unrepentent attitude once it blew up.

The other is that they were already planning to work without affiliates, so they really didn't care if this made the smaller ones drop. They anticipated that bigger affiliates would react as you have. Which is fine for you, so long as this is as far as they are going.

But they basically have you by the short and curlies. As soon as you try to reduce the risk of being so heavily exposed to someone who might be considering doing without affiliates altogether, there goes your bonus, etc. As dumb as you try to tell the rest of us we are, you got yourself into this situation by allowing yourself to become so dependent on one income source. That's about as dumb as it gets...

Agent 488 · 02-14-2007, 10:04 AM

someone change the channel.

VicD · 02-14-2007, 10:26 AM

I'am a lover not a hater

CDSmith · 02-14-2007, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

if i bail on aff i miss my goals and don't make my bonus. the bonus is on the new sales AND the renewals. I make more even with zango fucking me then if I bailed on aff. so I can't bail.

why the fuck would i bail on that income? I'm not a moron. If i had new sales only maybe i would bail - but i'm locked in. and so are most other old sites - you don't see ANY of them bailing on AFF - NONE. NOT ONE - and it's for the same reason.

And that's the golden post. Had to machete through dozens of "you're a moron" "No YOU"RE a moron" posts to get to it, but it was worth it. Nice to see you at least acknowlege you are being stolen from. And therein lies the gist of it... you're locked in. Stuck, as it were. I can understand that, but what I don't understand is why on so many threads you openly defend those who are stealing from you?

Keeping your income stream intact, yes, I get that. But why so cocky about defending what everyone else knows is wrong? That I don't get.

No hate here, for the most part I enjoy your posts.

grumpy · 02-14-2007, 10:37 AM

just keeping us sharp, i think. Well thats what i like to think.

billybathgate · 02-14-2007, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jayeff

But they basically have you by the short and curlies. As soon as you try to reduce the risk of being so heavily exposed to someone who might be considering doing without affiliates altogether, there goes your bonus, etc. As dumb as you try to tell the rest of us we are, you got yourself into this situation by allowing yourself to become so dependent on one income source. That's about as dumb as it gets...

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seeric · 02-14-2007, 10:45 AM

Meowwwwwwwwwww. I wub you sleeezy.

JD · 02-14-2007, 10:48 AM

i hate you because you're a pompous ass that thinks he's hot shit.

lesbodojo · 02-14-2007, 10:50 AM

Happy Valentines's Day, Scott!

Jace · 02-14-2007, 10:52 AM

LOL....this fucking zango debate again....haha

i only have this to say you all

A company that robs Peter to pay Paul can always count on the support of Paul

Sleazy does his business, let him be, there is no point debating, just move on and make your fucking money

DateDoc · 02-14-2007, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

honeslty - just myself. I'm not a cop or a crusadier.

I'm conserned about my bottem line and really don't give a fuck about you and your crusade.

if you wana find people to stand up for you goto greenpeace or some other hippie convergence center.

You should always look out for yourself first but then helping others will be even more rewarding but I guess you are helping AFF by continuing to support them and their nefarious actions.

02-14-2007, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

curious, why do you hate me?

is it cause I'm gerogous?

is it cause I live the life you could only dream of?

Is it cause I'm smarter than you?

Is it cause my dick gets sucked more than yours?

or is is just cause? just cause you know - deep down - that I'm better than you and there's nothing you can do about it - NOTHING

buuuuuhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Good one. I do not hate you. You have always been nice the few times we have chatted. Who knows why people hate each other. It is usually for dumb reasons anyway.

mailman · 02-14-2007, 01:48 PM

you never icq me anymore...

Fizzgig · 02-14-2007, 02:58 PM

I don't hate you.

will76 · 02-14-2007, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

i have one more question will76 - what's your name and what sites do you run?

please answer

sorry i don't need any more stalkers.

but if you must know i own *******.com and my name is Sir Wilfred VanBrunin

will76 · 02-14-2007, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace

LOL....this fucking zango debate again....haha

i only have this to say you all

A company that robs Peter to pay Paul can always count on the support of Paul

Sleazy does his business, let him be, there is no point debating, just move on and make your fucking money

no debate, you give him too much credit. It's like yelling at the wall and calling it a discussion. Takes more then 1 half way intelligent person involved for it to be a debate.

but i must know " why do you hate me"

What a moron, if you don't already know the answer to that one then you might want to seak professional help and not the GFY trolls you think so highly of.

Hollywood Horwitz · 02-14-2007, 05:51 PM

I don't even know you,but I hear I should.

SleazyDream · 02-14-2007, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

And that's the golden post. Had to machete through dozens of "you're a moron" "No YOU"RE a moron" posts to get to it, but it was worth it. Nice to see you at least acknowlege you are being stolen from. And therein lies the gist of it... you're locked in. Stuck, as it were. I can understand that, but what I don't understand is why on so many threads you openly defend those who are stealing from you?

Keeping your income stream intact, yes, I get that. But why so cocky about defending what everyone else knows is wrong? That I don't get.

No hate here, for the most part I enjoy your posts.

i've never defended zango.

but it blows me away how everyone here on one business deal will bail on a company that has litterally paid out more to webmasters than any other adult paysite on the net.

i didn't see people do this to other adult companies that did things like cross sales, popups that people don't get paid on, and hundreds of other things that companies have done in the past that slighty decreased sales of affiliates.

SleazyDream · 02-14-2007, 06:47 PM

will76 - what are you afraid of - still waiting on who you are and what you do?

why are you soo scared?

lulu36 · 02-14-2007, 06:49 PM

'cause your beautiful

will76 · 02-14-2007, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

i didn't see people do this to other adult companies that did things like cross sales, popups that people don't get paid on, and hundreds of other things that companies have done in the past that slighty decreased sales of affiliates.

jesus fucking christ you are a moron. How can you compare a company having a pop up or cross sale on their site that I send traffic to as something similar to what zango is doing.

You can call me all the names in the book to make yourself feel better but comments like that prove to everyone here you are one really dumb mother fucker.

will76 · 02-14-2007, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

answer my question will76 - i answered yours

how much money do you make from zango for keeping to bring this up on here?

and the last 10 times zango was mentioned you were the one to bring it up.

I don't think it is cool to laugh at or enjoy to see others fail but it is going to be enjoyable to check back in 5 years from now to see how you are doing. With your business ethics, attitude, and lack of education, you don't have a shot in hell. TGP's will fade over time and doing things like "ambush interviews" might make you feel important but I doubt you making much money from it. Technology changes fast, tgps of yesterday will be p2p and other platforms in the future... mark my words. You don't have a shot in hell.

SleazyDream · 02-14-2007, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

jesus fucking christ you are a moron. How can you compare a company having a pop up or cross sale on their site that I send traffic to as something similar to what zango is doing.

You can call me all the names in the book to make yourself feel better but comments like that prove to everyone here you are one really dumb mother fucker.

ummm, stealing is stealing

why is one better than another?

please do tell

SleazyDream · 02-14-2007, 07:10 PM

will76 you STILL havn't answered my question.

who are you and what do you run?

I answered your questions cause you demanded it - why do you think you're better than me and everyone else and not answer?

if you're soooo concerned about fairness why don't you play by your own rules?

Rochard · 02-14-2007, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

curious, why do you hate me?

Because you ripped my heart out of my chest, threw it around, stomped on it, and then laughed as you kicked the woman of my dreams to the curb.

The only reason I still talk to you is because your Canandian, and I love Canandians.

SleazyDream · 02-14-2007, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Because you ripped my heart out of my chest, threw it around, stomped on it, and then laughed as you kicked the woman of my dreams to the curb.

The only reason I still talk to you is because your Canandian, and I love Canandians.

thank god eh!!!!!!!!!!!

Spunky · 02-14-2007, 07:15 PM

I like Skufty better

will76 · 02-14-2007, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

ummm, stealing is stealing

why is one better than another?

please do tell

LOL i am not here to try to educate you. Sorry, you going to have to figure that one out on your own.

Stealing = popups, cross sales, spyware stealing traffic and sales.

( i can see how this is a tough one for you. when you think you have it figured out post your answers here and I am sure everyone else will tell you if you have it right. No cheating, so that means Scruffy can't help you

)

SleazyDream · 02-14-2007, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Spunky

I like Skufty better

everyone does

02-14-2007, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

ummm, stealing is stealing

why is one better than another?

please do tell

Well if they sign up for a cross sale that means that they've actually signed up and you get credit for your initial sale.

Zango steals your sale all together, does it not?

Aussie Rebel · 02-14-2007, 07:21 PM

I don't hate you, we had few differences in the early days, but I don't have any problem with you at all

tASSy · 02-14-2007, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

curious, why do you hate me?

is it cause I'm gerogous?

is it cause I live the life you could only dream of?

Is it cause I'm smarter than you?

Is it cause my dick gets sucked more than yours?

or is is just cause? just cause you know - deep down - that I'm better than you and there's nothing you can do about it - NOTHING

buuuuuhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

it's because my dick doesn't get sucked as much as yours...

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02-14-2007, 03:21 AM	#52
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	here is some basic math. lets say worst case zango is costing me 5% i have 7 years of renewals with AFF. they represent more than 2/3 of my month to month volume, and more like 4/5. zango would only effect 5% of my NEW volume - or less than 1% of my total. if i bail on aff i miss my goals and don't make my bonus. the bonus is on the new sales AND the renewals. I make more even with zango fucking me then if I bailed on aff. so I can't bail. why the fuck would i bail on that income? I'm not a moron. If i had new sales only maybe i would bail - but i'm locked in. and so are most other old sites - you don't see ANY of them bailing on AFF - NONE. NOT ONE - and it's for the same reason. so why the fuck would i bail on aff for the zango thing - basic math. that's why. I and MANY MANY MANY other sites CAN'T get out without losing HUGE money. i have NEVER supported zango and have given aff shit for using them but it's not my company and they make their own decisions. and I still think your a total fucking jealous moron will76. go fuck yourself - you're a worthless looser. __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

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SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	answer my question will76 - i answered yours how much money do you make from zango for keeping to bring this up on here? __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

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SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	will76 - i answered your questions - why won't you answer mine? __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

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SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	will76 you STILL havn't answered my question. who are you and what do you run? I answered your questions cause you demanded it - why do you think you're better than me and everyone else and not answer? if you're soooo concerned about fairness why don't you play by your own rules? __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

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