Steve Jobs is a fucking tool .....

[L-Pink]

Jobs says record labels should drop DRM.

What would he say if you could download free ipods?


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070206/...yrighted_music

[SomeCreep]

Steve Jobs is the reason you're using an operating system with a graphical user interface right now and not posting this through a DOS prompt. You think someone that brilliant is a tool? I do not.

DRM is a big mess. It does more bad, than it does good.

[Trax]

he is right
they should drop it
its a pain

[aico]

He's not a tool, he's a fucking Machine!!!!

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by SomeCreep

Steve Jobs is the reason you're using an operating system with a graphical user interface right now and not posting this through a DOS prompt. You think someone that brilliant is a tool? I do not.

DRM is a big mess. It does more bad, than it does good.

I didn't say he was a dumb-ass ... I just don't think "content" should be free.

Note, I'm a heavy Apple product user and know how "protective" they are of their own "rights"

[macmark]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Jobs says record labels should drop DRM.

What would he say if you could download free ipods?


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070206/...yrighted_music

Did you read what Jobs actually said??

"Though the big four music companies require that all their music sold online be protected with DRMs, these same music companies continue to sell billions of CDs a year which contain completely unprotected music. That?s right! No DRM system was ever developed for the CD, so all the music distributed on CDs can be easily uploaded to the Internet, then (illegally) downloaded and played on any computer or player.

So if the music companies are selling over 90 percent of their music DRM-free, what benefits do they get from selling the remaining small percentage of their music encumbered with a DRM system? "

http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughtsonmusic/

Pretty valid point if you ask me.

[MetaMan]

Originally Posted by macmark

Did you read what Jobs actually said??

"Though the big four music companies require that all their music sold online be protected with DRMs, these same music companies continue to sell billions of CDs a year which contain completely unprotected music. That?s right! No DRM system was ever developed for the CD, so all the music distributed on CDs can be easily uploaded to the Internet, then (illegally) downloaded and played on any computer or player.

So if the music companies are selling over 90 percent of their music DRM-free, what benefits do they get from selling the remaining small percentage of their music encumbered with a DRM system? "

http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughtsonmusic/

Pretty valid point if you ask me.

steve jobs just pwned this thread.

[notabook]

rofl... yeah ok, the man's a tool for stating the obvious. Whatever.

[Fap]

He would say how

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by macmark

Did you read what Jobs actually said??

"Though the big four music companies require that all their music sold online be protected with DRMs, these same music companies continue to sell billions of CDs a year which contain completely unprotected music. That?s right! No DRM system was ever developed for the CD, so all the music distributed on CDs can be easily uploaded to the Internet, then (illegally) downloaded and played on any computer or player.

So if the music companies are selling over 90 percent of their music DRM-free, what benefits do they get from selling the remaining small percentage of their music encumbered with a DRM system? "

http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughtsonmusic/

Pretty valid point if you ask me.

macmark, Yes I read it, yes I made the mistake I try to avoid .....

The mistake of forming an opinion based on half-ass media reporting, sound-bytes if you will ... The yahoo article leaves out important details contained in the Apple release. Details that make sense.

Thanks for correcting me

Sorry Steve .....

[TexasDreams]

Originally Posted by SomeCreep

Steve Jobs is the reason you're using an operating system with a graphical user interface right now and not posting this through a DOS prompt. You think someone that brilliant is a tool? I do not.

DRM is a big mess. It does more bad, than it does good.

Actually the Xerox Palo Alto Research Center is the reason we all are using graphical user interfaces. That's where Jobs saw and swiped the idea from. Along with networking computers and laser printers.

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by aico

He's not a tool, he's a fucking Machine!!!!

!!

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by SomeCreep

Steve Jobs is the reason you're using an operating system with a graphical user interface right now and not posting this through a DOS prompt. You think someone that brilliant is a tool? I do not.

DRM is a big mess. It does more bad, than it does good.

Um.. bone up on your history there chief.

Xerox was the company who developed the GUI, and the mouse. Not Apple. Xerox gave Apple, and Microsoft their 'crown jewel' back in the day. Apple managed to get it to the market in their computers before MS did in NEC's.

However, Jobs still is a monumental figure in what we have today. No question.

[the alchemist]

No, he's an iTool.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by TexasDreams

Actually the Xerox Palo Alto Research Center is the reason we all are using graphical user interfaces. That's where Jobs saw and swiped the idea from. Along with networking computers and laser printers.

Correct.

[reynold]

P2P webmasters would be shaking if DRM was done away with..... how are they gonna pop HTML 'confirm' pages on unsuspecting leeches?

[Space Monkey]

DRM is a major fucking annoyance.

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by reynold

P2P webmasters would be shaking if DRM was done away with..... how are they gonna pop HTML 'confirm' pages on unsuspecting leeches?

Think this is referring to just hard goods says as dvds cds and maybe .mp3 downloads etc. It wouldnt stop anyone from creating drm for their own product.