Are Kids In The USA Being Educated?

[Historic Erotica]

I couldn't even pass this test and this was completed by a 8th Grader!!



whole test is here:
http://www.rense.com/general75/pass.htm

people ask on this board about what state is best to live in to get a good education for there kids..even the hard to convince non-believers cant deny this info..

[who]

I love how they spelt 'give' wrong in the second question.

[shahab6]

+I have taken that test too, all 8th grades need to pass that test in order to go to the nect level

[Historic Erotica]

Originally Posted by who

I love how they spelt 'give' wrong in the second question.

good catch but could you pass this test..?? or any eight grader you know..HIGHLY DOUBTFUL..

[Historic Erotica]

Originally Posted by shahab6

+I have taken that test too, all 8th grades need to pass that test in order to go to the nect level

how long ago was that..??

[who]

Originally Posted by Historic Erotica

good catch but could you pass this test..?? or any eight grader you know..HIGHLY DOUBTFUL..

NO!! I could not! however if I had just been studying this stuff and had memorized it then yes, perhaps.

That's one thing I wonder about democracy - it should be absolutely essential that the voting populace is taught how the system works, who is working it, and everything about politics, so that when it comes around to voting time, they can make an informed decision and not just be bought out by a 'campaign'.

I never learnt one thing about politics in school. Yet I am a voter. It doesn't make sense.

[StickyGreen]

lol, an 8th grader would have to study like a motherfucker for a test like that. the kid probably cheated...

[Historic Erotica]

Originally Posted by who

NO!! I could not! however if I had just been studying this stuff and had memorized it then yes, perhaps.

That's one thing I wonder about democracy - it should be absolutely essential that the voting populace is taught how the system works, who is working it, and everything about politics, so that when it comes around to voting time, they can make an informed decision and not just be bought out by a 'campaign'.

I never learnt one thing about politics in school. Yet I am a voter. It doesn't make sense.

very well said..I agree..about the learning part that is, voting is a waste of time..it does give a grand illusion of choice though..

[Martin3]

We had tests like that when I was in school. 7th or 8th grade history class is usually US history. It's not hard to know that stuff when you go over it everyday.

[Historic Erotica]

Originally Posted by StickyGreen

lol, an 8th grader would have to study like a motherfucker for a test like that. the kid probably cheated...

its all now about how they kids are taught not what they are taught..and your right this kid may have cheated..but also maybe he didn't and he actually knows of the people and information that shapes his country..

[After Shock Media]

I know I took a lot of tests in 7th-8th grade that I could never pass now even though I had gotten high 90's to 100 percents on back then.

I would just memorize the proper answers for everything. Hell in what was it 3rd or 4th grade I could spit out all the state names and capitals, I know damn well I would screw that up now too.

[Historic Erotica]

Originally Posted by Martin3

We had tests like that when I was in school. 7th or 8th grade history class is usually US history. It's not hard to know that stuff when you go over it everyday.

I agree but from what I have seen (and I volunteer in my sons school,3rd grade and help coach in middle school 6th 7th & 8th graders)
I love the kids but they aint knowing this shit or being taught it..

[Historic Erotica]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

I know I took a lot of tests in 7th-8th grade that I could never pass now even though I had gotten high 90's to 100 percents on back then.

I would just memorize the proper answers for everything. Hell in what was it 3rd or 4th grade I could spit out all the state names and capitals, I know damn well I would screw that up now too.

so true..I dont think you really forgot maybe you just forget to remember..GM food causes that..lol..

[Martin3]

Originally Posted by Historic Erotica

I agree but from what I have seen (and I volunteer in my sons school,3rd grade and help coach in middle school 6th 7th & 8th graders)
I love the kids but they aint knowing this shit or being taught it..

Problem is most schools these days teach for placement tests instead of what's actually important.

[Elli]

From Snopes:
http://www.snopes.com/language/document/1895exam.htm

Plenty of critics maintain that most of today's teaching candidates couldn't pass this test. Well, even if that were true, it wouldn't make today's candidates all that different than their 19th century counterparts. As Joseph Crosby, the man who created the English Grammar and Orthography sections of this exam, wrote to a friend in 1876:

I gave them a pretty severe test in Grammar, and some of them did make terrible work of it. One young lady said the singular of "Swine" was "pigs", another "a hog". One being asked to give me the past tense of "I lie down" said "I lied", which she certainly did. Out of some 30 or 35 words I gave them to spell, not over 10 were spelled correctly by any one, several missed on all but 5 or 6 -- Yet they blushed & tried so hard to do well -- and many were graduates of the High School -- that I was sorry for them. I had no idea that graduates could be so ignorant.

[vvq]

easy if you study.

[Historic Erotica]

Originally Posted by Martin3

Problem is most schools these days teach for placement tests instead of what's actually important.

its test to show how indoctrinated into the BS belief system you are..I use to just make patterns on those tests..Maybe thats why I can think critically now..

[Historic Erotica]

Originally Posted by Elli

From Snopes:
http://www.snopes.com/language/document/1895exam.htm

Plenty of critics maintain that most of today's teaching candidates couldn't pass this test. Well, even if that were true, it wouldn't make today's candidates all that different than their 19th century counterparts. As Joseph Crosby, the man who created the English Grammar and Orthography sections of this exam, wrote to a friend in 1876:

I gave them a pretty severe test in Grammar, and some of them did make terrible work of it. One young lady said the singular of "Swine" was "pigs", another "a hog". One being asked to give me the past tense of "I lie down" said "I lied", which she certainly did. Out of some 30 or 35 words I gave them to spell, not over 10 were spelled correctly by any one, several missed on all but 5 or 6 -- Yet they blushed & tried so hard to do well -- and many were graduates of the High School -- that I was sorry for them. I had no idea that graduates could be so ignorant.

interesting..the latest from my son's school is his teacher telling the kids to stand up straight when they pledge allegiance to the flag..god or whoever you call your higher or lower power help us..

[teg0]

After this student finished the exam I'm sure they forgot it all. Thats how the education system in. You don't retain much.

[aico]

I seriously doubt the person who took that test could answer those questions now.

[Nysus]

Those test questions really aren't useful, especially not for an 8th grader unless their planning to get hardcore into politics...

[MOxxx]

no...teachers are even worst

[J. Falcon]

Yes, they are being educated by MTV.

[reynold]

Slam US education as much as you want..... but much of the world's technical achievements still come from the US

Originally Posted by Historic Erotica

I couldn't even pass this test and this was completed by a 8th Grader!!



whole test is here:
http://www.rense.com/general75/pass.htm

people ask on this board about what state is best to live in to get a good education for there kids..even the hard to convince non-believers cant deny this info..

[DjSap]

The US school system sucks for the non-smart and non-rich, but then again that is not such a bad thing as you always need grunt workers, plus there's less competition thanks to the poor educational system.

[Historic Erotica]

Originally Posted by reynold

Slam US education as much as you want..... but much of the world's technical achievements still come from the US

like what..oh wait your right..we are really good at killing people and telling others what to do..my bad..

[Historic Erotica]

Originally Posted by Nysus

Those test questions really aren't useful, especially not for an 8th grader unless their planning to get hardcore into politics...

so just having general knowledge is a bad thing..ok Im feeling that..

I thought maybe our kids could learn some shit that might actually help them in life..like a class on credit card debt..

[Historic Erotica]

Originally Posted by DjSap

The US school system sucks for the non-smart and non-rich, but then again that is not such a bad thing as you always need grunt workers, plus there's less competition thanks to the poor educational system.

only one word comes to mind here...YIKES..I can feel your hate..its showing yes it is..

[notabook]

Bah, it was in the 50's. The climate was a bit different then and politicians carried more "respect". These days I don't hear of many, if any, politicians being held with high regards by anyone.

[Elli]

Originally Posted by Historic Erotica

so just having general knowledge is a bad thing..ok Im feeling that..

I thought maybe our kids could learn some shit that might actually help them in life..like a class on credit card debt..

I had to take a mandatory class in grade 8 called Lifeskills. Oh joy. It was 8 weeks of everything: 8 weeks of cooking, sewing, metalwork, woodwork, financial management (including how to file your taxes and balance your bank account), and a few other choice goodies that I can't remember.