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Historic Erotica 02-06-2007 03:47 PM

Are Kids In The USA Being Educated?
 
I couldn't even pass this test and this was completed by a 8th Grader!!

http://rense.com/pgs/page_01.jpg

whole test is here:
http://www.rense.com/general75/pass.htm

people ask on this board about what state is best to live in to get a good education for there kids..even the hard to convince non-believers cant deny this info..

who 02-06-2007 03:50 PM

I love how they spelt 'give' wrong in the second question.

shahab6 02-06-2007 03:53 PM

+I have taken that test too, all 8th grades need to pass that test in order to go to the nect level

Historic Erotica 02-06-2007 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by who (Post 11872161)
I love how they spelt 'give' wrong in the second question.

good catch but could you pass this test..?? or any eight grader you know..HIGHLY DOUBTFUL..

Historic Erotica 02-06-2007 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shahab6 (Post 11872184)
+I have taken that test too, all 8th grades need to pass that test in order to go to the nect level

how long ago was that..??

who 02-06-2007 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Historic Erotica (Post 11872186)
good catch but could you pass this test..?? or any eight grader you know..HIGHLY DOUBTFUL..

NO!! I could not! however if I had just been studying this stuff and had memorized it then yes, perhaps.

That's one thing I wonder about democracy - it should be absolutely essential that the voting populace is taught how the system works, who is working it, and everything about politics, so that when it comes around to voting time, they can make an informed decision and not just be bought out by a 'campaign'.

I never learnt one thing about politics in school. Yet I am a voter. It doesn't make sense.

StickyGreen 02-06-2007 03:57 PM

lol, an 8th grader would have to study like a motherfucker for a test like that. the kid probably cheated...

Historic Erotica 02-06-2007 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by who (Post 11872198)
NO!! I could not! however if I had just been studying this stuff and had memorized it then yes, perhaps.

That's one thing I wonder about democracy - it should be absolutely essential that the voting populace is taught how the system works, who is working it, and everything about politics, so that when it comes around to voting time, they can make an informed decision and not just be bought out by a 'campaign'.

I never learnt one thing about politics in school. Yet I am a voter. It doesn't make sense.

very well said..I agree..about the learning part that is, voting is a waste of time..it does give a grand illusion of choice though..

Martin3 02-06-2007 04:01 PM

We had tests like that when I was in school. 7th or 8th grade history class is usually US history. It's not hard to know that stuff when you go over it everyday.

Historic Erotica 02-06-2007 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 11872203)
lol, an 8th grader would have to study like a motherfucker for a test like that. the kid probably cheated...

its all now about how they kids are taught not what they are taught..and your right this kid may have cheated..but also maybe he didn't and he actually knows of the people and information that shapes his country..

After Shock Media 02-06-2007 04:02 PM

I know I took a lot of tests in 7th-8th grade that I could never pass now even though I had gotten high 90's to 100 percents on back then.

I would just memorize the proper answers for everything. Hell in what was it 3rd or 4th grade I could spit out all the state names and capitals, I know damn well I would screw that up now too.

Historic Erotica 02-06-2007 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin3 (Post 11872224)
We had tests like that when I was in school. 7th or 8th grade history class is usually US history. It's not hard to know that stuff when you go over it everyday.

I agree but from what I have seen (and I volunteer in my sons school,3rd grade and help coach in middle school 6th 7th & 8th graders)
I love the kids but they aint knowing this shit or being taught it..

Historic Erotica 02-06-2007 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 11872234)
I know I took a lot of tests in 7th-8th grade that I could never pass now even though I had gotten high 90's to 100 percents on back then.

I would just memorize the proper answers for everything. Hell in what was it 3rd or 4th grade I could spit out all the state names and capitals, I know damn well I would screw that up now too.

so true..I dont think you really forgot maybe you just forget to remember..GM food causes that..lol..

Martin3 02-06-2007 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Historic Erotica (Post 11872242)
I agree but from what I have seen (and I volunteer in my sons school,3rd grade and help coach in middle school 6th 7th & 8th graders)
I love the kids but they aint knowing this shit or being taught it..

Problem is most schools these days teach for placement tests instead of what's actually important.

Elli 02-06-2007 04:13 PM

From Snopes:
http://www.snopes.com/language/document/1895exam.htm

Plenty of critics maintain that most of today's teaching candidates couldn't pass this test. Well, even if that were true, it wouldn't make today's candidates all that different than their 19th century counterparts. As Joseph Crosby, the man who created the English Grammar and Orthography sections of this exam, wrote to a friend in 1876:

I gave them a pretty severe test in Grammar, and some of them did make terrible work of it. One young lady said the singular of "Swine" was "pigs", another "a hog". One being asked to give me the past tense of "I lie down" said "I lied", which she certainly did. Out of some 30 or 35 words I gave them to spell, not over 10 were spelled correctly by any one, several missed on all but 5 or 6 -- Yet they blushed & tried so hard to do well -- and many were graduates of the High School -- that I was sorry for them. I had no idea that graduates could be so ignorant.

vvq 02-06-2007 04:42 PM

easy if you study.

Historic Erotica 02-06-2007 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin3 (Post 11872253)
Problem is most schools these days teach for placement tests instead of what's actually important.

its test to show how indoctrinated into the BS belief system you are..I use to just make patterns on those tests..Maybe thats why I can think critically now..

Historic Erotica 02-06-2007 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elli (Post 11872290)
From Snopes:
http://www.snopes.com/language/document/1895exam.htm

Plenty of critics maintain that most of today's teaching candidates couldn't pass this test. Well, even if that were true, it wouldn't make today's candidates all that different than their 19th century counterparts. As Joseph Crosby, the man who created the English Grammar and Orthography sections of this exam, wrote to a friend in 1876:

I gave them a pretty severe test in Grammar, and some of them did make terrible work of it. One young lady said the singular of "Swine" was "pigs", another "a hog". One being asked to give me the past tense of "I lie down" said "I lied", which she certainly did. Out of some 30 or 35 words I gave them to spell, not over 10 were spelled correctly by any one, several missed on all but 5 or 6 -- Yet they blushed & tried so hard to do well -- and many were graduates of the High School -- that I was sorry for them. I had no idea that graduates could be so ignorant.

interesting..the latest from my son's school is his teacher telling the kids to stand up straight when they pledge allegiance to the flag..god or whoever you call your higher or lower power help us..

teg0 02-06-2007 05:50 PM

After this student finished the exam I'm sure they forgot it all. Thats how the education system in. You don't retain much.

aico 02-06-2007 05:55 PM

I seriously doubt the person who took that test could answer those questions now.

Nysus 02-06-2007 05:57 PM

Those test questions really aren't useful, especially not for an 8th grader unless their planning to get hardcore into politics...

MOxxx 02-06-2007 05:57 PM

no...teachers are even worst

J. Falcon 02-06-2007 05:59 PM

Yes, they are being educated by MTV.

reynold 02-06-2007 09:05 PM

Slam US education as much as you want..... but much of the world's technical achievements still come from the US :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Historic Erotica (Post 11872143)
I couldn't even pass this test and this was completed by a 8th Grader!!

http://rense.com/pgs/page_01.jpg

whole test is here:
http://www.rense.com/general75/pass.htm

people ask on this board about what state is best to live in to get a good education for there kids..even the hard to convince non-believers cant deny this info..


DjSap 02-06-2007 09:08 PM

The US school system sucks for the non-smart and non-rich, but then again that is not such a bad thing as you always need grunt workers, plus there's less competition thanks to the poor educational system.

Historic Erotica 02-06-2007 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reynold (Post 11873640)
Slam US education as much as you want..... but much of the world's technical achievements still come from the US :)

like what..oh wait your right..we are really good at killing people and telling others what to do..my bad..

Historic Erotica 02-06-2007 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nysus (Post 11872889)
Those test questions really aren't useful, especially not for an 8th grader unless their planning to get hardcore into politics...

so just having general knowledge is a bad thing..ok Im feeling that..

I thought maybe our kids could learn some shit that might actually help them in life..like a class on credit card debt..

Historic Erotica 02-06-2007 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DjSap (Post 11873659)
The US school system sucks for the non-smart and non-rich, but then again that is not such a bad thing as you always need grunt workers, plus there's less competition thanks to the poor educational system.

only one word comes to mind here...YIKES..I can feel your hate..its showing yes it is..

notabook 02-06-2007 10:18 PM

Bah, it was in the 50's. The climate was a bit different then and politicians carried more "respect". These days I don't hear of many, if any, politicians being held with high regards by anyone.

Elli 02-06-2007 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Historic Erotica (Post 11873831)
so just having general knowledge is a bad thing..ok Im feeling that..

I thought maybe our kids could learn some shit that might actually help them in life..like a class on credit card debt..

I had to take a mandatory class in grade 8 called Lifeskills. Oh joy. It was 8 weeks of everything: 8 weeks of cooking, sewing, metalwork, woodwork, financial management (including how to file your taxes and balance your bank account), and a few other choice goodies that I can't remember.


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